74x80x16 Hotrod garage/barn
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We currently don't have any Pontiacs but a 1998-2002 Trans Am or 2008-2009 G8 GT V8 would be at the top of the list! I need a car with the LS engine!
10/31/10 Although I'm using a steel roof, using OSB and felt paper will prevent the steel from sweating and dripping on the cars. I plan to insulate and put a ceiling in someday but it's not in the budget right now. Who would have thought the weather was going to cooperate at the end of October?
11/2/10 OSB is finished and the windows along the north side have been installed. The windows are installed up high to let light in over a RV or trailer and keep nosy eyes from looking in.
The floor is in the upstairs and 4' of the wall installed. I need to finish the top 4'
11/2/10 Both upstairs windows framed in and installed. Concrete is next.
NASMAN
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Boy am I glad I didn't try that by myself.
Looks great. You may have said it and I missed it, but what part of the country are you in?
Looks great. You may have said it and I missed it, but what part of the country are you in?
Bib Overalls
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That is a lot of OSB. Doing it that way will make for a much sturdier structure. Will you use OSB on the walls as well?
OBNXIOUS
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Wow! You have a great collection.. Jealous of your garage/barn, and its future contents! Looking forward to more pictures..
e-tek
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Yer wasting a lot of wood there.....
LOL!
LOL!
colt zantop
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man I love this build. I visit this post every day! whats the plan for exterior color/material? keep us updated!
Thanks Nasman. When I built my 40'x64' barn, I had tons of help, rented a large fork lift to handle the trusses and place the OSB on to the trusses, and two iron worker friends that walked the top plates like it was a sidewalk.
This building ended up out of my DIY scope for the timeframe I wanted it finished. Plus, I built the first barn 16 years ago and me and my friends and family are not as spry as we were back then. I'm in the Midwest. CZ
Hey Bib, they used 3 complete bundles of 1/2" OSB for the roof and upstairs walls and another full bundle and a little more of 3/4" for the upstairs floor. I've only seen more OSB at the store!
I plan to finish the upstairs walls with OSB since the first 4' has OSB. When I finish the downstairs someday, I suspect I'll use steel liner panel in white. A friend just had his polebarn insulated with foam and I'm not sure of the R value but with just a little heat from a small wall furnace, he keeps it at 50° easily. Unless something better comes along, the foam looks like a good option for me since it also doubles as a vapor barrier - it's closed cell foam. CZ
Thanks Obnxious. More photos coming! I should have built this barn years ago but comparing the cost of the old barn to the new one is a factor of 5!
Thanks CZ. The exterior and roof are steel. Stay tuned for the installation.
CZ
Yer wasting a lot of wood there.....
LOL!
Hey e-tek, yes, yes I am wasting a lot of wood!
I considered a steel truss and post build but decided against it because 1) they needed a long lead time to custom fab to my dimensions and 2) I wanted to keep my money local. The builder lives 45 minutes from me and has three employees. I didn't know it before meeting him but the builder is also a car enthusiast and has a twin turbo BBC in a 55 Chevy! It's a wild street car! The trusses were made locally and the concrete is a local company. All of the other materials came from Menards. CZ
JC23
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Hey Zilla,
You gonna have them put the OSB for the upstairs in there while it's still open? You know, just stack it upstairs, not put it in place.
That way, you won't have to lug all those sheets upstairs.
You gonna have them put the OSB for the upstairs in there while it's still open? You know, just stack it upstairs, not put it in place.
That way, you won't have to lug all those sheets upstairs.
11/8 and 11/9/2010. Here comes the concrete, all 80 yards of it. The concrete was the part of the build that I was fretting the most. The ground at my place gets rock hard throughout the summer. In the fall, we didn't have our usual rainfall and the ground where the delivery trucks were driving was staying flat and not becoming rutted and I was happy about that. Concrete trucks are another story though so if the concrete didn't get done in the fall, I would have to wait until the middle of the summer when the ground dried up again. With the frost and rainy spring here, there's just no way to bring a concrete truck in until July and that would be a bummer. With the weather getting colder, adding too much chloride to the mix was also a concern. I thought I had my concrete guy all lined up and when the builder gave me the thumbs up to proceed with the concrete, I called the concrete guy, several times and no return call! Ever! Oh **it! Now what!? In a panic, I called the concrete contractors with the next higher bids. They were all busy and the weather forecast was unbelievable for the next 7-10 days, no rain with high temps between 60° and 75°! It's November! In a last ditch effort, I called the excavator who put in a new septic system for me a couple years ago and he recommended a guy I had not talked to previously. I called this guy on Thursday, 11/4 and asked him if he would pour concrete on Monday. After a short chuckle, he said "well, I don't know, how much do you need" I said, "80 yards" He said "I'll be right over" LOL!!
He came down and gave me a quote, we agreed, and his guys were down on Friday to level, tamp, and set the forms. He was $4000 more than the disappearing guy but I had to do it, I didn't want to wait. And something else, the low bid was from a guy that poured concrete on the side. The guy that ended up pouring it, it's his business. So I guess it was meant to be because I didn't want a half-assed concrete job, especially on something this big.
The floor turned out just the way I wanted it, smooth and level. On Monday when they poured the interior portion, I think there were 7 guys working and the boss was working too, making sure it was done just like we spoke about. They used a laser level and three power trowels. On Tuesday, they poured the outdoor portion and the approaches and had four guys working.
The concrete is 4" thick and reinforced with wire. I don't like concrete reinforced with glass fibers because when I lay on it, it makes me itch. The floor is also insulated with a foil/bubble material that doubles as a vapor barrier. I know there are many opinions about in floor heat but here's why I didn't do it. First, I already have a heated workshop so I didn't need the new barn to be my primary heated workshop. Second, is the response time to warm up the area. My shop has a forced air furnace and I keep the temperature at 50°. When I want to work out there, I just turn up the thermostat and it's 68° in 30 minutes. Floor heat can't react that quickly and I couldn't afford to keep it warm all the time. The interior of the new barn is 4576 sqft. Third, the timing and expense. I don't know how long it would have taken to run the tubing or what that material would have cost. I was going over budget with the change in concrete contractors. The concrete trucks drove inside as they poured the floor so the wire and insulation were put down as they poured the concrete. That would probably have been a big PITA laying the tubing too. It would have probably been messed up and not done to my liking so it's probably better that I didn't go that route. A new 120,000 BTU forced air furnace costs $750 at the HVAC contractors warehouse. So, without further ado.
He came down and gave me a quote, we agreed, and his guys were down on Friday to level, tamp, and set the forms. He was $4000 more than the disappearing guy but I had to do it, I didn't want to wait. And something else, the low bid was from a guy that poured concrete on the side. The guy that ended up pouring it, it's his business. So I guess it was meant to be because I didn't want a half-assed concrete job, especially on something this big.The floor turned out just the way I wanted it, smooth and level. On Monday when they poured the interior portion, I think there were 7 guys working and the boss was working too, making sure it was done just like we spoke about. They used a laser level and three power trowels. On Tuesday, they poured the outdoor portion and the approaches and had four guys working.
The concrete is 4" thick and reinforced with wire. I don't like concrete reinforced with glass fibers because when I lay on it, it makes me itch. The floor is also insulated with a foil/bubble material that doubles as a vapor barrier. I know there are many opinions about in floor heat but here's why I didn't do it. First, I already have a heated workshop so I didn't need the new barn to be my primary heated workshop. Second, is the response time to warm up the area. My shop has a forced air furnace and I keep the temperature at 50°. When I want to work out there, I just turn up the thermostat and it's 68° in 30 minutes. Floor heat can't react that quickly and I couldn't afford to keep it warm all the time. The interior of the new barn is 4576 sqft. Third, the timing and expense. I don't know how long it would have taken to run the tubing or what that material would have cost. I was going over budget with the change in concrete contractors. The concrete trucks drove inside as they poured the floor so the wire and insulation were put down as they poured the concrete. That would probably have been a big PITA laying the tubing too. It would have probably been messed up and not done to my liking so it's probably better that I didn't go that route. A new 120,000 BTU forced air furnace costs $750 at the HVAC contractors warehouse. So, without further ado.
JC23,
If I was smart I would have just had the builder finish the upstairs but I wanted to insulate the walls upstairs before finishing the top half of the wall with the OSB. The building code requires 1/2 of the wall installed upstairs so that you can't fall.
I guess I'll be lugging 20 sheets of OSB up the stairs. And then there is the ceiling upstairs too.
CZCall me the Breeze
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I bet when it's all said and done, your gonna wish you went an extra ten feet out...
Nice small place you got there!
Nice small place you got there!
Justanoldguy
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Wow.
Cool build alright.
Send me the plans.
It's about the size I want about now.
Cool build alright.
Send me the plans.
It's about the size I want about now.
MartyO
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Suddenly I feel so....so....insignificant!!!
Great build! Great cars!!!!
Great build! Great cars!!!!
jktruck150
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Man, that place is looking great! That is a lot of concrete, but it is much better to work on then gravel floors!
LeeBoy
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lookin good
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Thanks Breeze,
I sized it to the budget I had and went from there. But you're right, an extra 10' or 20' in length would have been nice. This will have to do. A bigger space would have allowed me to add more cars and I need to focus on what I have now! CZ
Hey justanoldguy,
I don't have any plans but I will gather together what I have. If you get close to building and haven't seen anything, PM me. CZ
Thanks guys. It was fun coming home and walking around the house to see the latest progress. I have a neighbor who volunteers at the voter site on election day. When I got there, she asked me if I had moved because "someone was putting up a big barn" After a chuckle, I told her no and I was having a new barn built. Then all eyes were on me and several "that's some barn!" comments were made. It's funny how news travels around here. CZ
11/12 - 11/13/2010. It took two days to put the metal on the roof. The builder ordered the steel cut to length to speed the process and since it only took two days to complete the roof, I'd say it worked. Why a steel roof? A shingled roof takes longer to install and the materials and labor would have been higher. A steel roof lasts longer than a shingled roof. Lastly, since I wasn't going to insulate for a period of time, I figure the white roof is worth some amount of lower temperature inside. The felt paper used was synthetic. Once the OSB was put down on the roof, we had rain showers dance around here but it never got rained on and I was happy about that.
I think it's 34' to the peak.
I think it's 34' to the peak.
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JC23
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This blows me away every time I see an overall shot... Amazing!
MartyO
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I got the same sort of reaction.
I moved down from NY and within a month the concrete trucks were rolling into the neoghborhood.
Now I am the Yankee Redneck with the big shop in the middle of the "neighborhood" that all the other Rednecks are talking about!!!
Call me the Breeze
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Garage on ******
jessemac
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this is insane you could have basketball teams practice in your garage
11/14/2010 Here we go with steel siding. Again, less labor and material costs compared to vinyl siding. I would have liked to incorporate some brick in the front and under the patio but it wasn't in the budget. My wife and I went round and round on the color. We're still having second thoughts but it's blue top and gray bottom for now. We went with blue because the roof of our house is a blue/gray color and we plan to paint the trim on the house to match the blue on the barn to try and tie it together. When you have 12' sheets of steel, things go pretty fast. more to follow. We used the website below to help us pick the colors. CZ
http://www.fabral.com/nbcolorvisualizer/
http://www.fabral.com/nbcolorvisualizer/
camnick
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carzilla I saw the picture of the 2 door '65 Chevelle wagon. Did that car get purchased from someone close to Indianapolis. I have a friend that built one identical to that and sold it.
By the way incredible barn!!
By the way incredible barn!!
csargents1546
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That shop is huge, you can almost fit my old place lot and all inside your "shop". Keep the pics coming. I like the color choice.
Small_words
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What manufacturer made the metal roof?
NWOhioChevyGuy
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Drooling here, absolutely a dream building for alot of us.
BEAVO
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wow!!! awesome sorry if i missed this was busy looking at all the pics lol but whats going in the upstairs room?