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jake00

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I've got a piece of equipment that calls for this in the manual.

The mfg refereed me to the people who made the gear box (motion industries) They say they don't sell lube, and refereed me to 2 other places who have never heard of such a lube.

Googling it comes up with nothing.
 
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Need more info! What equipment is this on? What environment is the equipment in?

Pardon if you know this already, (and I'm not an expert on oil), but its a multigrade gear lube usually required for equipment used in areas with high temperature extremes. When its cold it behaves like an 80 weight oil, when its hot it behaves like a 110 weight oil. This gives better protection at temperature extremes. In the old days before they invented multigrade oil, you had to change oil in your car with the seasons. A 40 weight oil was thick and made it hard to get the engine started when its cold, so in the winter you'd use a 10 weight oil. But in the summer, the 10 weight oil thinned out like water and the engine would wear a lot faster so you had to use 40 weight in the summer.

Enough history... thus my question what kind of equipment? If you don't have the temperature extremes, then there should be no problem running a single grade oil.

However, there's other factors to consider as well - i.e. most oils have various chemical additives for certain applications. i.e. engine oil often has detergents that help trap combustion by-products. Gear oil usually doesn't have detergents.
 

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Let me check at work tomorrow, There are a few places locally that we use. Don't quote me for sure, but maybe Enterprise Oil. I also think there is a place in Palatine.

Did the manufacturer verify that it is not a misprint?


what kind of quantity?
 
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Bought the 80W-90 (GL-5) at wally world last weekend, but did see the 80W-110 sitting next to it for a few cents more.
 

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My bet is that it was Rotella at Wally world. Gear lubes contain Extreme pressure addatives and other such things. My suggestion is to get specs off of the gearbox. Prob a MIL spec to help identify what gear lube to use in the equipment and go to your local lubricants dealer and ask for the proper lube for the task! As always JMO. We don't handle a 80W110 but we do have 85W140, 80W90, and a Synthetic 75W90 where I work and these usually cover most all applications we run up against.
 
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Do they give you a spec like GL 1 or GL 4 or GL 5? Everything except GL 1 has sulfur and other items in it which attack brass and bronze bushings. If they spec GL 1 don't use anything else.

Charles

I know what you're saying, but there are gl4's and 5's without those additives. My pickup transmission takes a non-sulfur gl4. Put the regular stuff in, and the synchros head south quickly.
 
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no 80/110 at wally,

called doucet again, the tech said I could run 75w110, but said to call MI again and see what they think,

MI said it was made by browning, Called browning, Which may have been bought by a Chinese co, A "tech lady" couldn't give me any weight specs, but did list Mobil and shell "gear oil" as recommended oils. She emailed me a 20 page manual about the gear box.....

I guess my next Question is whats the difference between 80w90 and something like 80w110?
 

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Amsoil sells 75w140 which is superior to 80w110 on both ends. I'm betting you could find something similar at any of your local auto parts stores. After all, gear lube is used in autos.
Oreilly auto offers a 75W140 also.
 

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Amsoil sells 75w140 which is superior to 80w110 on both ends.

75W should be OK on the cold end and is possibly superior depending on the application. The 140 on the hot end may well be detrimental when hot because it may not be able to get where it's needed on account of being too thick.
 

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75W should be OK on the cold end and is possibly superior depending on the application. The 140 on the hot end may well be detrimental when hot because it may not be able to get where it's needed on account of being too thick.

I wouldn't worry about that. If you switch to a synthetic, it flows better at any temperature than the original spec 80w110 even with the superior viscosity ratings.
The higher 140 rating simply means that it won't break down at higher temperatures, not that it won't flow as well.
 

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Jake, The first number (80) is thickness (viscosity) when cold. The W means it will work in Winter or cold climates. The second number (110) is the thickness equivalent when fully warmed up.

Industry has started going toward 75WXXX for easier cold start up's. Bottom line, 80W110 and 75W110 is exactly the same viscosity when fully warmed up and will satisfy the manufacturers warranty in most cases. So if you find 75W110 you will be just fine. Hope this helps.
 
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