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Today is nice day and warm, so i started with a couple honeydo's and then started scrubbing the 2 ceiling panels that were dirty. Moral of the story is never put them up dirty, it just is a pain to clean them off.


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Spent the afternoon cleaning off the north wall. I will add the drywall if i can get it unburied and paint this wall. Also need to finish off the electrical area so i can paint and put up more pallet rack.



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That first picture shows a bit of organization on the right followed by utter chaos on the left. That wall looks good though, so you are putting sheet rock over the OSB on this wall or are you doing the same as the other wall with OSB on the bottom and sheet rock on the top portion?
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Lol. Utter chaos is a necessary fact until more storage is in place. The shop plan is osb at lower levels to resist damage and drywall up high just because its cheap. I did move all the long steel out to the machinery shed though, so that saved some room. I need to come up with steel stock organization.

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Steel stock is one of the worst problems I have, I will be interested in seeing what you come up with. I have a rack that holds 16 foot and smaller pieces, but I work with aluminum too and that usually comes in 24 foot pieces. Someday I plan on a roller system in a small area of the upper portion of the shop, but I can't quite figure it out yet. I have been thinking about it for about four or five years now.
 
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Sounds like me. Been thinking about steel storage for years. Everything in me says put it on a wall but then you cant do anything else on that wall. Im torn.

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I went middle of two bays, but it is not mobile, so real PITA. I wish I had made a huge mobile cart. I am considering outside on racks with a tin roof. As long as there is air flow the steel stays pretty decent. What's a little surface prep versus long term wasted space?
 
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Maybe i need to store steel in the machine shed then.

That wall is 20 ft long, i can put plenty of steel on it. I can move the ladder that's there now. It's a bit of a pain to bring it inside to cut, but that's what the loader is for right? If it frees up that wall, it's probably worth it.

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Slow going last few days. Sunday i helped my brother in law paint his basement ceiling. Got my sprayer back. Now the inlaws are in town visiting and i got a request to get the wifes xs400 on the road so they could ride together. Thanks to the great parts pulled together by racerrick, i am working on the harness and rear fender. As you can see, the top is original and a wreck, the bottom is the new one.

While i was swapping rear fenders over, i noticed the frame wiggled a bit much. The back half then fell off. The previous owner aborted a cafe racer conversion and poorly welded it back on. Now i am learning gas welding.

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The harness looks really good. I think storing the steel in the machine shed is probably a good idea. You can always keep shorter stuff in an area in the shop for regular projects.
 
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I think so too. I hate to tie up a whole wall in the shop. I hate to put it somewhere in the middle too, it gets too heavy to move.

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I picked the middle only because at the time I was trying to "split" the shop so that mechanical duties were in one bay and metalworking was in the second bay. I now think that was a mistake, undoing it is a bit of a problem as I have no good place to put the steel now. Hopefully you will get some shop time this weekend.
 
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Well i dont have much to show yet pic wise, but i went off in a different direction this weekend. Tired of not doing anything but cleaning and organizing, i tackled a small project. My mig welder is an ancient 3ph power source from a long dead company called compakomatic. No feeder, i use a millermatic 10a for that. So parts are easy. Its looked like hell for years, but who am i to complain for the 25 bucks i paid. I tore it apart to give it a coat of paint and pretty it up. And also to give me something to look at and remind me why im working to fix the place up. Project completion. Heres the in process pics. Ill post more once its all done.





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So i got the painted parts all put together. I think it turned out pretty good.


Then I cut a 2x4 in half and screwed to the bottom of the feeder. It never had the original runners.


Now i need to tidy up the wiring and attend to the feeder and whip.
The whip is a big tweco, it's pretty worn out. The adapter from the feeder to the whip is kinda bent, and the wire guide was full of rust. I've been having issues with rusty wire due to the shop not being insulated. Cut off all the rusty stuff and need to insulate the shop, but that's another issue.

i want to buy a longer whip, and the wire guide i have now is bent. Anybody have suggestions on these parts?
 

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I would contact miller, those guys are great. I have a 1993 Shopmaster 300 and one of the tech support guys sent me over the manual, then he also sent me a hand written cheat sheet for the settings he used. I would not be surprised if they could find parts for the wire feed that would work for you.

Nice job on the paint, I like yellow and blue.
 
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Thanks strouty. I agree on miller. They were able to dig up a manual for my ancient hf15 thst wasnt on the website years ago. Very helpful.

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Update, heard back from miller, my unit is too old. No parts available. Im on my own. So i guess i piece together parts on my own.

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That stinks, maybe keep an eye out on eBay, you could also check out welding web and see if maybe someone has any parts.
 
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Well, it is what it is. Part of the price i pay for older equipment. It's easy to buy new and get a warranty, but i'd have far fewer tools that way too.

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This weekend being mom's day weekend, i resigned myself to not getting much done. Saturday, i cleaned the shop and put tools away. Far too many projects had left tools lying around. Put an end to that, loaded up the toolbox again. Then i cleaned off the welding table. It's pretty big, and had become a dumping ground. The only thing left on it is a welding project, the grinder and welding rods. i need to come up with some welding rod storage. Maybe a box on the wall. Then i put the labels on my mig. Before i forgot everything.

The feeder rolls came off and got cleaned. Then i looked at the gun again. It appears to be a tweco backend, not miller as i had thought. That makes it pretty generic, but probably have to stay with a tweco gun or buy a new adapter kit. I don't know what millermatics originally came with, so what fits? I did decide the way the adapter kit works *****. The 3/8 diameter steel pin that holds everything on is a poor way to do it. If the bridgeport was setup, i would mill a block to bolt to the feeder housing and make it more rigid but that is a project for another day. I'll probably get a new liner and call it a day for now. Mig guns cost more than i can spend right now.

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I have found that Miller's low end stuff comes with Miller guns, but the higher end stuff comes with Bernard, so maybe back then they came with Tweco?
 
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Tonight i am working on clearing more floor space. I started clearing this area, loading motorcycle parts. My son helped me lift the parts up. I can clearly see i need a forklift at this point.



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I cleaned the floor up in the area of the first picture, swept and the box of roofing nails went down to the neighbors since he's roofing his house this year. Liberating! And the metal halides went on craigslist. If anybody wants them, contact me. I can do better for a garage journal buddy than craigslist.
 

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The forklift will be a huge help, I know mine was a game changer. Any luck on the welder?

No matter what, getting more floor space is a great feeling, keeping it that way is the hard part. :(
 
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Right. I wasnt able to find a mig gun that looked in the budget this month. I will probably replace the liner and use the 6 footer for now. Ill keep my eyes open. I have more lumber to cut to put more shelves up and get more off the floor. Thats this weeks plan. Clear as much floor as possible.

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So, the last couple of days, i've spent most of my shop time moving things around and cleaning. Put away all tools, lift everything up and sweep underneath. I also moved some heavy stuff into more appropriate areas with like items, like a couple motorcycle engines are now in the motorcycle area, a couple transmissions got moved to a pile of other transmissions, etc. I have cleared out the area in front of the lumber so i can get at it, and start work on the rest of the north wall tonight. Here's the pics of that.






Some of the items in the picture haven't been moved in years, like the area by the stairs. Just been walking around it for all that time.
I also need to get rid of a few things, and asap. I have 3 air conditioners i don't need, i have 6 big metal halides i don't need. Those could clear a lot of space immediately. Anybody want them? I'll cut you a great deal...

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Keep it up strouty, youll get there! This process is very cathartic.

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Well, nothing happened this weekend as we just had a small vacation. Went over to Philadelphia, PA, then visited some places in PA on the way back sightseeing. The reason for the visit to PA was this:


Last years' summer project was a machinery shed on the side of the shop. This years' project is continuing the theme "clean up the yard and prepare for worse times", so we will be putting up a combined woodshed / genset shed over on the property line. Since i have to plan a size for the genset, i had to pick one. I'd had my eye on one of these for a long time, and when this one showed up on the bay, i pulled the trigger.

Fuel costs were lower now than in recent history, so it made sense. I will build the shed around this unit, a 20KW Detroit Diesel 2-71 "screamin' jimmy". The cord coming off it is a #2 copper 4 wire SOJ probably worth at least $500 alone.

I paid the princely sum of $300. It runs on ether. I think probably a stuck injector or bad filter or fuel pump is likely. Either way, they're cheap to fix.

I know it's a distraction from the shop, but we don't have tons of nice weather here in Michigan so i tend to focus on summertime only activities in the summer.

Once i get it off the trailer and put away, i'll be back on honey-do's and shop work.
 

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Sounds like a good price, that wire is definitely not cheap. We have a 6-71 in an old FWD truck that we use as a crane, engine is pretty reliable, other than the oil leaking. I guess that is just how we rust proof the truck.

Can't wait for updates, I have been nursing my back the last few days and it is not looking so good for this week.
 
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Man strouty, you are really fighting the health issues these days. Are you still able to work?

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