Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop

[86turbodsl]

I don't think there's a straight panel left on it. I have no intention of saving it. Too rusty to bother. Yes, its well engineered. I shudder what it could have been like if it hadn't had awd and snow tires. but then maybe she wouldn't have been so confident. who knows.

 

[bulletpruf]

Sorry to hear about your daughter's car, but glad she's ok!!!

I flipped my Dad's '82 Celica GT in 1988 or so. About midnight, took a turn too fast. Landed in someone's front yard next to an oak tree and on top of the natural gas meter. Did not have a seat belt on, either. Lucky to walk away from that with just a sore neck.

 

[86turbodsl]

Sounds like my brother. Flipped his car with his friend in the pass seat. Ended up driving home i think. Car was a loss.

 

[SilverJimmy]

I don’t remember reading if you were going to incorporate a water heater pressure relief valve. Have you considered doing so? Just thinking that you might want some kind of relief system just in case? Or maybe your system is designed for such low temps and pressures a relief valve is not needed?

 

[86turbodsl]

yes, there will be all controls and safeties in a typical hot water boiler. t/p valve for sure, and a low water cut off.

 

[86turbodsl]

Dug around in the tig consumables and found 1/8" tungstens so i think i'm already tooled for welding 1/4 plate tig. So that's probably the direction. If i gotta do it anyway for leakproofing, might as well do it to start. 250A tig. I probably need a tig finger... ouchie.

 

[jbmatth]

I'm going to give my CYA statement again that I'm not an expert but think you are on the right track and will have good success with the method you've described above, pre-heat, weld, slow controlled cooling "should" give you soft enough welds and HAZ where you will be covered.

Her car is pretty beat up but still in the general shape of a car which is nice. Maybe time to take it to do a Gambler 500, if you were closer I'd buy it to do just that.

JB

 

[86turbodsl]

We haven't even tried to start it. She said it was running after the accident then shut itself off.

 

[jbmatth]

I'm not at all familiar with Audi's but I know I had vehicles that had what I think was an inertia switch that will trip in an accident to kill the power to the fuel pump. Maybe that is the case, good luck either way.

JB

 

[86turbodsl]

Ah yes, the infamous Ford inertia switch. I am not sure this vehicle has one, but i wouldn't be surprised.

 

[bimmer1980]

***** to hear about the vehicle rollover. Glad your daughter is fine.
Hopefully it's a learning opportunity. It also shows the hassle of the after the accident challenges-- insurance, repair or replace.

I'm sure Michigan insurance is not fun...from what I've heard...

Regarding welding. That root pass is crucial to get decent. Doesn't have to be show quality, but don't skip using a grinder to correct a problem early. Personally, I have dedicated grinders for wire wheel, rough grinder wheel and cut off wheel. Makes it fast to quickly correct a problem in the weld. Personally, I like to get the flux chipped and wire wheeled before starting the next bead. Might be over kill, but it does make for a better tie in (pending skill, rod type, etc)
Maintain your patience and fortitude... weld on!

 

[rattle_snake]

Glad your daughter is OK. The rest is just stuff.

 

[86turbodsl]

***** to hear about the vehicle rollover. Glad your daughter is fine.
Hopefully it's a learning opportunity. It also shows the hassle of the after the accident challenges-- insurance, repair or replace.

I'm sure Michigan insurance is not fun...from what I've heard...

You are correct. We are also one of the most expensive states to live in for insurance.

Regarding welding. That root pass is crucial to get decent. Doesn't have to be show quality, but don't skip using a grinder to correct a problem early. Personally, I have dedicated grinders for wire wheel, rough grinder wheel and cut off wheel. Makes it fast to quickly correct a problem in the weld. Personally, I like to get the flux chipped and wire wheeled before starting the next bead. Might be over kill, but it does make for a better tie in (pending skill, rod type, etc)
Maintain your patience and fortitude... weld on!

I do much the same, weld the root, then chip slag and use a wire brush on it before next pass. I prefer gas shielding whenever possible, but hard to beat the penetration of a large transformer stick welder. I am out of work a little early today, maybe i'll give tig a shot.

 

[86turbodsl]

In the "you can't make this up" file comes this.... my other kid wrecked his truck the day after his sister. Hit a suv in town going to the car wash. Scratch one hood, fender, grill, bumper and light. And probably a frame tweak.

 

[jbmatth]

Ah yes, the infamous Ford inertia switch. I am not sure this vehicle has one, but i wouldn't be surprised.

Yes, one of my brothers had a similar car to mine, he called one day saying the car had just died going down the road (8 hours from where I was), in troubleshooting he mentioned he just hit a big pothole before it died. I had him push the reset and he was up and running, usually remote troubleshooting is less effective.

JB

 

[86turbodsl]

Got the new printer delivered yesterday. Unpacked and setup. That is a BIIIIG upgrade over the old Creality Ender 3 pro. I ran out of time and didn't print anything yet, but it's ready to. Hopefully tonight.

In other news, my boy says somebody was driving behind him or something like that and his truck was dogtracking. I don't know if it is and we will check it out soon, but if it is indeed bent that bad, we'll probably either scrap/part out or swap to the other frame we have. What a shame.

 

[bimmer1980]

Obviously the vehicles are a sore subject, but how are you shuffling vehicles to get everyone where they need to go? Does the insurance cover a rental car for a bit or do you have to do a car pool or ride share within the family?

I'm gathering the son's pickup is at least drivable in the current condition? Albeit not in good condition if it has a dog leg in the axle placement/frame... I think I would be tempted to to do very minimal fixes until........

 

[bulletpruf]

In other news, my boy says somebody was driving behind him or something like that and his truck was dogtracking. I don't know if it is and we will check it out soon, but if it is indeed bent that bad, we'll probably either scrap/part out or swap to the other frame we have. What a shame.

Ok, back home in Louisiana we call that crab-walking. Since y'all don't have crabs in Indiana, I guess dogtracking makes more sense for y'all...errr....you guys....

 

[86turbodsl]

I checked it out today. No crab walking.

 

[86turbodsl]

Obviously the vehicles are a sore subject, but how are you shuffling vehicles to get everyone where they need to go? Does the insurance cover a rental car for a bit or do you have to do a car pool or ride share within the family?

I'm gathering the son's pickup is at least drivable in the current condition? Albeit not in good condition if it has a dog leg in the axle placement/frame... I think I would be tempted to to do very minimal fixes until........

Sons truck is drivable. We've been sharing for the daughter. And bought a car this weekend. Needs a little work but drivable in the meantime.

 

[86turbodsl]

Daughter drove the car to work today. No issues. It needs some work, but it'll be ok for a while until we get to it.

Son is all hot and bothered to get his truck fixed up. I can't blame him. I need a big vehicle project like a hole in the head though.

 

[bulletpruf]

Daughter drove the car to work today. No issues. It needs some work, but it'll be ok for a while until we get to it.

Son is all hot and bothered to get his truck fixed up. I can't blame him. I need a big vehicle project like a hole in the head though.

What flavor of car did you get your daughter this time around?

 

[86turbodsl]

2003 audi a4. We have lots of spare parts for this model and she needs AWD to get to work before plows fly in the morning although it didn't help her last time. If she had been going slower maybe.

 

[86turbodsl]

Tried to get into the wrecked A4 to snag the battery. The driver fender is folded OVER the hood. I think forklift might be able to wrench it up. Ugh.

 

[jbmatth]

If you use the forklift to open the hood please film this for all of us, and possibly insurance, but mostly for us.

JB

 

[86turbodsl]

Great idea.

 

[SilverJimmy]

I got to witness the coolest forklift action once at a car scrapyard. The yard was crushing cars flat so they could be stacked on a flatbed. The forklift was a huge offroad unit and the operator ran it like he was born in it. He would bring a car over to the crusher and hold it over a large catch bin where his lackey would puncture the gas tank with an axe to drain any fuel it might contain.
Then he would lower the car onto the crusher, backup and then pop open the hood with the forks. Next he would pull the battery with the forks and then he got the radiator out with the forks too. Then the crusher smashed the car down to about a 12” tall pile and then the forklift placed it on the flatbed trailer. This was all in less than a 3 minute cycle, start to finish!

 

[bimmer1980]

-86 -- any luck popping the hood open with the heavy equipment?

Boiler update?? It's been cold for PA. Natural gas bill was $196 for January for the garage... oh well... it was comfortable at 63 degrees inside.

 

[86turbodsl]

No, i was on vacation visiting family in DFW. It was cold there too. I just got back Wed night. Last night i was on a call late with overseas. This evening or sometime this weekend.

 

[86turbodsl]

Well, long story short, i didn't get anything done this past weekend. I came down with a stomach bug sunday, spent mon off work, got back to work yesterday, but taking a little easy as my guts are tender. We got my daughters car on the lift and got a list of things to do made, then its back out and i can work out there again from tonight.

LOOOOTS of drama at work that i can't comment on. I hope i'm not in crosshairs. We will see what we see.

Change is in the air. And much of it not good.

 

[kent_323is]

Well, long story short, i didn't get anything done this past weekend. I came down with a stomach bug sunday, spent mon off work, got back to work yesterday, but taking a little easy as my guts are tender. We got my daughters car on the lift and got a list of things to do made, then its back out and i can work out there again from tonight.

LOOOOTS of drama at work that i can't comment on. I hope i'm not in crosshairs. We will see what we see.

Change is in the air. And much of it not good.

As much as we'd like to know the work drama, it's best not to share it anywhere. Keep your head down and good luck!

Hopefully car repairs go smoothly... as much as that's possible!

 

[Hellpig]

Ok, back home in Louisiana we call that crab-walking. Since y'all don't have crabs in Indiana, I guess dogtracking makes more sense for y'all...errr....you guys....

Same here.
Once saw a Dodge Dart that looked like its *** end was about to pass the front!

Glad your kids are OK!

 

[bimmer1980]

Just keep calm and don't over react to the drama at work. Easier said than done, but take a moment to pause, breathe and consider before reacting with an answer.

We have a few at this work place that like to think the sky is falling and react accordingly in a negative manner...... negative bias.

It's just work.

Hopefully it has warmed up and the boiler project is less urgent. We finally got a break from the cold, and it's good.

 

[86turbodsl]

bimmer, of course. i don't do anything that directs attention in my direction. Head down, work on my tasks.

It has been nice and warm last couple of days, although yesterday i visited a supplier nearby and the drive had some of the largest snow flakes i've ever seen. Like half dollar sized.

I'm not too worried about the boiler at the moment, we're almost to warm weather. Need to finish before next year though. The cold kills my productivity.

 

[86turbodsl]

Well i tried. We shoved the old audi up on the hill with the other dead ones, and i got the forklift out to open the hood. I setup my phone camera to take a video, gave it to my daughter and told her to film opening it. She then pressed pause to yell at me about something, then did not restart it while i opened the hood with the forklift. This is my totally tech-immersed daughter. Literally on a device all day long every day. Can't restart a cell phone video.
I'm a little annoyed.
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In other news.. i replaced the Reliance freak drive on the shop door with an automation direct GS2 1hp drive. The old one kept faulting out for high amps whenever it was cold. Last weekend i tried to open the door for quite a while and failed.
My son is working today and coming over after he gets off work to get his brakes bled. He called my wife eariler today and yelled at her for about 1/2 hour about how crappy his life is and how bored he is. His employer goes thru long spurts of not having product to run on the machines. When that happens they have nothing to do and are told to just sit around. If i had that much time i could learn all sorts of stuff, but he won't do that. So he just complains to us. Fun.

That is the summary of my day. Hope you are all well and happy. Peace.

 

[bimmer1980]

Uuff, yep, I'd be annoyed too.

Well, take the "win" that the forklift worked and you got the drive replaced on the door.

Anything more fun on the plan list for tomorrow?

 

[86turbodsl]

More cleaning and organizing. I'm about at wits end with the mess out there. desperately looking for wins in cleaning. But not yet at the "pitch it all and start over" point.

 

[86turbodsl]

Son stopped by, we power bled the brakes, no change. Still a little spongy. I don't know what it might be.

 

[86turbodsl]

Today was pretty cold in the shop, i was freezing my **** off. I am making an SSR plate to replace the lighting relays that the lighting PLC drives for lights. Tired of the thing sounding like a shotgun going off when you flip the lights on.

Had some 1/4" thick 6061 strip i drilled and tapped holes in to fit crydom relays.

I'm missing some screws since some of these are NOS/used. Waiting on the jungle site to drop them off before i install.



I used heat sink compound on them all, they are all rated 25A and typical loading on each will be 3-5A. Should be ok.

 

[86turbodsl]

I don't think I mentioned this yet, but I recently picked up a creality k1 printer. The thing is badass and will be helping me organize moving forward.