Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop

[Pressingonward]

Nice progress on the shop!

I've been using a shop vac on the hornets around here. No toxic chemicals and it works really well if done in the early morning or late evening. I was surprised to see a couple of them still crawling around after a couple weeks when I opened up the vacuum though...

 

[86turbodsl]

That is my plan also, with the suit. They are WAY WAY too aggressive right now to try this without it. And i am not sure exactly where the nest is.

For a shop update. I really really tried to get the big move done last night, but the toe jack wasn't cooperating. I will modify that this morning and try again. Then we will have the big reveal.

 

[racer-john]

That is my plan also, with the suit. They are WAY WAY too aggressive right now to try this without it. And i am not sure exactly where the nest is.

For a shop update. I really really tried to get the big move done last night, but the toe jack wasn't cooperating. I will modify that this morning and try again. Then we will have the big reveal.

Pls show the mods.

 

[86turbodsl]

Ok, the issue with the toe jack is that the point where the jack contacts whatever it is lifting is in front of the plane that is lifting. Since there's a distance there, as the jack lifts, it creates a moment about the foot of the jack, front edge. It tends to want to tip the jack, increasing in moment as the lift gets higher. To counter this, i had to add a foot to the jack.


Normally i don't like welding cast iron, but in this case, i think it's probably ok. I kept the temp as low as i could to prevent having to disassemble the jack. I hope it was enough.

 

[86turbodsl]

The toe jack works as intended. Full speed ahead.

 

[86turbodsl]

I take it back, the toe jack randomly bleeds down. Might be a seal i need to address. No external leakage, it seems like the valve.

And time for the big reveal.

The whole point of this project was to move the equipment that is too big to move while the shop is full to final locations.
Namely, the machine tools. I've had this plan in my head for a while and despite all the issues with equipment we finally got it done.
Need to move the 1943 American Pacemaker to it's final location.

From here:

To here:



Took a bit of time, but by changing position of all the skates a few times, was able to move to here:


I set it far enough off the south wall to get around to the back.


And far enough off the east wall to get behind to check oil levels and clear swarf.


A long shot of the positioning. I think it fits nicely.


And finally this shows the spacing to the door. Plenty of room.


I have a couple more machines to move, with forklift, but this will pretty much iron out this corner of the shop as machine tool corner. Some spacing from the dirty processes, but all close at hand for metal machining.

I had asked Mrs 86 yesterday to help me move it, she took one look at it and said "HOLY SH*T where did you get that giant thing?" I guess she has a short memory. I believe she helped me unload it.

 

[86turbodsl]

Now that i have it in final location, i can think about running power to it and evaluate the geartrain and feeds. I am very excited to finally hear the thing run. BUT it needs de-rusted AGAIN. I had the damn thing clean once. Clearly i need to work harder on climate control.

I'm also undecided on putting a shelf in higher than the one that was there. I am not sure i would get a lot of use out of it because of limited access with forklift. The area where the lathe is essentially is unusable with forklift, but i loaded it all by ladder, so there's nothing terribly heavy there anyway. I figure it can be light bulky storage. The remaining area of pallet rack will be accessible by forklift and/or lighter machines that can be easily moved and don't need leveling. I could even put them on dollies if needed to move without forklift.

 

[Plastikosmd]

To be fair, when my wife visits the shop and makes a “holy **** where…. Or when did you get..” I have to try and remember if this was a purchase I told her about or snuck by her.

Generally, I cover myself with a fabricated “remember, I told you…” and hope there are no more questions

 

[86turbodsl]

Lol. I clearly told her about it. I remember. It was a sort of a big deal at the time. Drive to Lansing, rent drop deck trailer from Cat, drive to Ft Wayne, spend the day there loading, drive home, 2 pallet jacks to unload. She drove the back one.

We are getting old i guess...

 

[86turbodsl]

Geez. My kid just told his employer to Eff themselves. Almost 4 weeks of no pay, couldn't stand it anymore and flushed the job.

Not enough beer in the world.....

 

[Plastikosmd]

Ya, in time you learn the “ inside voice” shouldn’t be confused with the outside one

Well, maybe he will move up to something better

 

[racer-john]

Hey 86 I almost mi/ssed ur post, you changed ur avatar. Did the Canuck threaten to sue you forusing his picture?

 

[bimmer1980]

Great progress on the machinery move!! One less hurdle to working on it and on the boiler.

Remind us again what needs done to the lathe to get it to basic functional?

FYI, I've had decent luck with Wd-40 and scotchbrite pad for rust clean up on machinery. The purists might cringe, but it worked well enough for me. And a shot of thinner or brake clean to rinse the rust away with a rag.

Good efforts!!!

 

[86turbodsl]

Ya, in time you learn the “ inside voice” shouldn’t be confused with the outside one

Well, maybe he will move up to something better

Aren't we the optimist.

 

[86turbodsl]

Hey 86 I almost mi/ssed ur post, you changed ur avatar. Did the Canuck threaten to sue you forusing his picture?

No, i changed it to be more representative of how things are now.

 

[86turbodsl]

Great progress on the machinery move!! One less hurdle to working on it and on the boiler.

Remind us again what needs done to the lathe to get it to basic functional?

FYI, I've had decent luck with Wd-40 and scotchbrite pad for rust clean up on machinery. The purists might cringe, but it worked well enough for me. And a shot of thinner or brake clean to rinse the rust away with a rag.

Good efforts!!!

The lathe was a ball of rust when i got it, completely locked up, other than spindle. I've been pulling parts off and derusting and freeing them up. It needs the compound put back together and repair on one of the engagement levers. The spindle / headstock looks incredible inside. Oil change was all i did.

For reference, the pacemaker is one of the stoutest lathes ever made. I've been told it can pull a 1/2" chip at 0.090" per rev. That's some SERIOUS metal removal rates. I don't have the b*lls to run it like that though. I'd be pooping my pants.

Your cleanup method is basically what i was doing, along with a razor blade.

 

[86turbodsl]

Today's first order of business. Get the rain sensitive stuff back in the shop. I was getting rained on pretty good while doing it. Big storms around 11am predicted.


Today's big plan is get the oil storage squared away and get more pallet shelves up to store the 4 pallets that just came back. Floorium is addictive.

 

[86turbodsl]

Got it all done just in time. Storm kicking up now.

 

[Strouty]

Those vintage pacemakers are awesome, they really should have had chrome trim and fancy colorful paint.

 

[86turbodsl]

I love the art deco look of the thing. Just don't see that anymore.

Today, i am attempting to straighten a pallet rack upright so i can put one more section up and get rid of all the stuff i just brought back in. Tall order.

 

[86turbodsl]

So i pulled the best upright out of the three i have left and hauled over to the house to hose off. Sitting in the dirt for 2 years means dirty.

Then i took back to the shop for straightening.

cut one side, added a bar and clamps, and started patching. It should be ok, I'll put the patch towards the wall. It's 1/8" steel.

 

[86turbodsl]

So I got one upright in place and 2 pallets put away. Tomorrow I will mow the stinging nettles in front of the beam pile.


It's like I live in Australia. Everything is trying to kill me.

 

[Pressingonward]

That Pacemaker is just too cool...it's got style.

Nice work on the shop cleanup. Should pay back quickly in efficiency and reduced frustration. I've been doing a bit of that myself.

I have to run a dehumidifier to keep my tools from turning to rust. Otherwise it hits 75%+ humidity and stays that way all winter. Need to roto rooter my french drains and see if that helps. One bay has no concrete so the water comes through the gravel from outside and evaporates into the shop. Plus the roof leaks a bit...

Hopefully your heating system upgrades go well this year - that should help keep your shop warm and dry.

 

[86turbodsl]

After a sweaty morning I am here.


If I had more 3ft pallets I'd have used those, but I am out so they were loaded directly onto the shelf.

 

[bulletpruf]

That is my plan also, with the suit. They are WAY WAY too aggressive right now to try this without it. And i am not sure exactly where the nest is.

For a shop update. I really really tried to get the big move done last night, but the toe jack wasn't cooperating. I will modify that this morning and try again. Then we will have the big reveal.

Yellow jackets normally nest underground.

 

[86turbodsl]

Yellow jackets normally nest underground.

Correct. I have not tried yet. It's a wet mess here at the moment.

 

[86turbodsl]

Moving the m and w out I thought I had it ...

I guess I'm glad the tire machine was sitting there?

Glad I had the hoist sitting around.



Whew. Close call folks.

 

[Strouty]

Good thing the space was a mess, otherwise it may have been a real mess. Short forks and steel on steel, fun times!

 

[86turbodsl]

For today's news, I HAVE A MACHINE SHOP!

Started out by moving / clearing space for the machines to move today.

The bandsaw was the first to move out, to be able to get at the drill press.



I stuck the bandsaw over here for now.


Then rigged up the drillpress to hang from the straps.



Setting it into it's new home.



Snugly into the new hole.



then rotate the bandsaw round to pick from end.



It's new home, in the clean machine shop area.




The spot right next to the bandsaw will house the 7" shaper.



I also think i have room for a small work table behind the bandsaw, more closer to the mill. Not sure on that yet, i like having a flat surface near both machines, but will only budget for one table.

this completes the machine placement for now, next i will work on placement of dirty processes such as sanders, grinders, etc.

My rationale for this new arrangement is long ends can hang out into the center of the shop, if i have to cut or lathe something long. With the Namco, things can be moved easily, so it's a somewhat flexible arrangement.

 

[rattle_snake]

Is that a V MAX engine by the lathe?
Go cart project? or maybe for the mower?

 

[86turbodsl]

Yes, that's a vmax engine. It's a spare for my bike. Just in case. I am thinking it might be a buck for a homebrew EFI.
I like my bike, but the carbs annoy me. I am a powertrain engineer after all. Or used to be one before the damn EV push. !#$%%#$.

 

[86turbodsl]

I kept working after these photos, i've got quite a lot of clean floor now. Working my way over to the workbench and tools. Got a couple of things that can go outside still. Palletizing things will be key to keeping floor clear though.

 

[bulletpruf]

For today's news, I HAVE A MACHINE SHOP!

Started out by moving / clearing space for the machines to move today.

The bandsaw was the first to move out, to be able to get at the drill press.



I stuck the bandsaw over here for now.


Then rigged up the drillpress to hang from the straps.



Setting it into it's new home.



Snugly into the new hole.



then rotate the bandsaw round to pick from end.



It's new home, in the clean machine shop area.




The spot right next to the bandsaw will house the 7" shaper.



I also think i have room for a small work table behind the bandsaw, more closer to the mill. Not sure on that yet, i like having a flat surface near both machines, but will only budget for one table.

this completes the machine placement for now, next i will work on placement of dirty processes such as sanders, grinders, etc.

My rationale for this new arrangement is long ends can hang out into the center of the shop, if i have to cut or lathe something long. With the Namco, things can be moved easily, so it's a somewhat flexible arrangement.

Hot damn! Now we can buy that Cat D8 that you've always wanted!!!

 

[86turbodsl]

Shop is about as cleaned as I can get it right now, back on to jobs.

 

[86turbodsl]

And some more clean photos.

 

[Seagoon]

Now that's a major improvement! And if you can start on the jobs you will start using some of that gear and expose even more floor space.
Go for it!

 

[Pressingonward]

Great progress!

That shaper is cool. Never seen one in person, but they look like a neat machine.

 

[86turbodsl]

Yeah that Atlas 7" shaper is in high demand. They bring just stupid money on Ebay. Got it for a $100 on a yard sale. I wasn't going to give the guy 100 unless he coughed up the clapper box. He said i was the only person that stopped by all weekend long that even knew what it was.

 

[86turbodsl]

I have officially gotten back on the Audi. the shop is so usable now since i can walk around without stepping over things. Once the Audi is wrapped up, i'll have a lot more space.

 

[Strouty]

That is awesome and the shaper for $100 is certainly a “you ****” award.

I had to stop in at the Salvage Garage today and I am getting stressed since I haven’t been there to really do anything in a couple weeks. At least your thread helps keep me from dropping off the deep end, plus I can see that there is hope for guys like us.