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83, it's a Miller CP-200. With the Haas-Kamp modification for single phase. The plugs are ancient twist locks. Not miller's newer stuff. But dirt cheap and absolutely bulletproof. Nothing really can kill it other than shooting it.
 
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So you didn't buy another forklift? Wait, that was me...

Hope all is as well as it can be, we are a rag tag group, but we will support you in any way we can from hundreds of miles away.
 
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I had this shipped to my house: It showed up in this box. Yeah. This box. This condition.

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Here it is: Vevor mag drill. Variable speed, Nitto Koike drive, reversible. Can tap.

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Been using it as a mini drill press on my weld table until the big press is up. It's been working well to get my intake flapper fix done for the audi. I drilled and tapped holes in the adapter, drilled holes in the valve, and it's done now.


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Nice to see the Vevor mag drill working for you. Their packaging leaves something to be desired though... I ordered a portable bandsaw from them, and the box was damaged enough to damage the plastic blade guard housing. I went round and round with them to get a replacement part for that, and finally ended up just taking a $40 credit and used JB weld to fix it myself. Other than that, knock on wood, it has been working very well. I made a stand for it to hold it in the vertical position and added a remote foot switch, which works well for trimming and cutting the random bits of steel that the large chop saw can't get. The original 2 blades lasted surprisingly long, and when I ordered replacement ones, I went with Dewalt brand blades.

On the mag drill, you mentioned it works to do tapping...how is setup to do that? I'm assuming you need to use the forward cutting taps that would be normally used with a drill for tapping?
 

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Neat mag drill. Vevor has some interesting stuff. I bought my power feed for the mill from Vevor.

Is the Audi intake part for your car or part of the daughter's car?

Is the coolant hose issue complete? I think your other post mentioned it was done, but don't recall seeing pics.

Regardless, nice addition to the shop. I've used a mag drill here or there in the past, but so far have not bought one... once in a while on past projects it may have been handy.... as of late if I need a hole in something I try to fit it into the piranha.... or the Bridgeport...IMG_20221210_113324.jpgIMG_20221210_120210.jpg
 

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Neat mag drill. Vevor has some interesting stuff. I bought my power feed for the mill from Vevor.

Is the Audi intake part for your car or part of the daughter's car?

Is the coolant hose issue complete? I think your other post mentioned it was done, but don't recall seeing pics.

Regardless, nice addition to the shop. I've used a mag drill here or there in the past, but so far have not bought one... once in a while on past projects it may have been handy.... as of late if I need a hole in something I try to fit it into the piranha.... or the Bridgeport...
I think like all chinese stuff, you need to be careful. i looked at a lot of reviews first. In the end, i can't justify an evolution or milwaukee. But i do have some need of one for larger weldments.

The coolant hose issue was daughter's car, it's ok for now. It hangs down lower than i like but so far she's doing ok with it.

The intake flapper is for my car and has been the holdup. I need to get that car done before winter hits so i can stop driving my truck. Almost out of time.

I used the vevor because i don't have good workholding on the drill press and the bridgeport isn't working yet. All in time.
 

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The name brand ones can have plenty of issues too, I had a Milwaukee that had a sticky spot, no matter what you did, you had to force it for a second, then it would go back to business as normal. I hated that, should have sent it back, but I was using the **** out of it at the time and when you don't use it, you forget there is an issue, until the next time you use the **** out of it. Vicious cycle...

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Glad that things are starting to shape up a bit, one piece at a time and things will start coming together.
 
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Yeah, just gotta keep at it. the weather is not helping. I'm getting old. My bones don't like the cold. We're done with summer. I'm moving the bike out to the shop and at some point will load the mezz with bikes. Thinking of throwing the pallet jack up there to move light pallets around. Way more room up there than i need for bikes.
 

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Well done on fabricating a "replacement" $600 part. It is getting crazy, issue (engine management light) with my wife's countryman, I'm working away so can't look at it/fix it so told her to take it to a local independent mini specialist. They diagnosed the fault to a valve connected to a manifold which on older models they could dismantle and then eliminate said valve. Now no way to do this so it needs to be replaced at £800 for the part itself, seems like car manufacturers try to design part in a way you no longer can easily fix them yourself and in doing so add to the throw-away society.
 
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Drilled and tapped the last of the audi valve holes this morning. Now i need to set the position of the unactuated valve.
Mark it well, then disassemble and tack a stop SOMEWHERE on the body of the adapter so it opens up to the right position under vacuum. THAT is going to be the hard part. Ugh.
 
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Working on the intake valve again today, found out i have to remove the ps pump and line to get the thing installed in one piece. super annoying.
I have to change my water pump and it is bolted to a front cover that has to be removed too, some of the bolts are inside the engine behind the cover, go figure. Hopefully you can make some progress, we are all waiting for you to be driving the Audi.
 

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86- what was the price on the import mag drill? I bought a Fein a few years ago. It has been great, but is rather pricey. I have a client that I think the import unit would be perfect for.
 
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I have to change my water pump and it is bolted to a front cover that has to be removed too, some of the bolts are inside the engine behind the cover, go figure. Hopefully you can make some progress, we are all waiting for you to be driving the Audi.
Eww. That would not make me happy. I am working on the suspension today. It's a chore finding all the bolts i don't remember where they were. I need a parts car sitting around to just steal bolts off of.
If i can get the suspension assembled today, brakes tomorrow, and when the aluminum arms come in, that's all ready to go.

It really doesn't help to take a car apart and let it sit for 12 months.
 
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86- what was the price on the import mag drill? I bought a Fein a few years ago. It has been great, but is rather pricey. I have a client that I think the import unit would be perfect for.
It was about $350 shipped. It's the fancy one with variable speed (controlled to rpm, regardless of torque input) and FWD reverse switch. Comes with metric annular cutters, chuck and chuck adapter and uses the Nitto-Koike system (3 ball drive). It looked to me like there were about 4 different models. I will say the speed i feel is too high for actual tapping. It did work for alignment of the tap though. I set to lowest speed, chucked the tap in the drill chuck and fed until the tap stopped moving. Then shut it off, retracted the chuck and hand tapped the rest of the way. That worked fine. If i did it again, i probably wouldn't bother with the FWD / REV switch. As long as it's variable speed.

My feeling is a bridgeport is a far better tool for power tapping than any of these things would be. I believe it's strong suit is going to be annular cutting/drill bits. It would be perfect if it had a movable shoe to place the bit precisely before drilling. The magnet works good. there's little to no runout on the quill. It'll be fine for any work i need to do. I occasionally build heavy equipment and need to bore a big hole in some plate. Too hard to get things onto a big drill press and too hard to hand drill. This fits the bill.
 

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Yeah no fine adjust would ****! At the places I have worked they all have the Milwaukie most With the 2 speed box and all with the variable speed, but not RPM controlled so more load is less speed and all with the fie adjust foot. The two speed box can overwhelm the Chuck for tapping pretty easily, but with reverse you can take multiple runs at it after breaking the chips. I'll find one for cheap when I have cash I'm sure. 🤞 Harry
 
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i got the pinch bolt out and knuckle completely disassembled on the driver side. Suspension has been replaced once before, everything was slathered in antiseize at that time. The pinch bolt, which is legendary for how hard it is to get free, still needed pbblaster, oxyacety torch and an impact to free. I have a broken wheel speed sensor bolt to get out of the knuckle yet, and then the driver side can go back together.

I believe i spotted a crack on one of the pinch bolt ledges, i'm not sure though. I don't think i'm inclined to purchase a new upright. Not on a car with this many miles on it. How much longer is it really going to last?
 
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That seems like a decent price for what you get, especially in this day and age.
I suppose it was. for a chinese tool, it's not bad. Hard to justify a $1000 tool on something that won't get used all that much. No substitute, but just not a daily / weekly / monthly thing. I wonder if you can rent? I have access to a milwaukee at work, but i'm not going to walk out the door with something that big, no matter if i would bring it back. Guys get fired for stuff like that.
 

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I will say the speed i feel is too high for actual tapping. It did work for alignment of the tap though. I set to lowest speed, chucked the tap in the drill chuck and fed until the tap stopped moving. Then shut it off, retracted the chuck and hand tapped the rest of the way. That worked fine. If i did it again, i probably wouldn't bother with the FWD / REV switch. As long as it's variable speed.

My feeling is a bridgeport is a far better tool for power tapping than any of these things would be.
Personally I don't like to power tap, too much hassle when one breaks a tap
 

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Too bad your work is like that, back when I worked at the generating station we were allowed to check pretty much any tool out for the weekend and take it home to use, just had to bring it back on Monday. They would even give you consumables like grinding discs and carbide burrs to use. The only rule was it had to be a one man tool, and had to fit in your pickup, no dozers or cranes!
 
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Too bad your work is like that, back when I worked at the generating station we were allowed to check pretty much any tool out for the weekend and take it home to use, just had to bring it back on Monday. They would even give you consumables like grinding discs and carbide burrs to use. The only rule was it had to be a one man tool, and had to fit in your pickup, no dozers or cranes!
We used to allow this sort of thing, until one of the guys started taking things home and keeping them there. One guy took a set of tires home to "try them on the wife's car". Another guy took a bunch of test equipment "to keep it safe". They prosecuted one of them and he had 5 yrs probation. Not worth it.
 
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Here's where we are right now with the audi:
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Driver knuckle in the vice waiting on a tap. Hole cleanup. Broken bolt removed with welder/nut.

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Passenger side done except final tightening. Ordered the rear brakes today. Was going to move to S4 brakes, but much faster to just renew OEM. I need this thing on the road ASAP. We don't have anyone here to trade off cars anymore.
 
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Zero progress last night, the taps i ordered from the jungle site didn't show up until bedtime. My wife found them UNDERNEATH her car. So tonight hopefully make more progress at least get the last of the suspension on, and maybe some brakes. We will see. I'd love to get the car wrapped up this week.
 

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"......wrapped up this week" -- A target to aim for is good! I was proactively not asking about the car status as I figured that would be a sore spot...

We all look forward to a pic of the car ready to leave the shop!!!
 

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Personally I don't like to power tap, too much hassle when one breaks a tap
You would experience some serious "pucker factor" watching me with through holes on thin material then, I'll drill the tap drill through change to the tap (keyless chucks) staying in high range [we are talking 3/8-16 > 10-24 upto 1x tap diameter thickness material]. Turn on the B'port let it get to speed shut off and "Full Ahead, Ramming Speed", hand doesn't leave the power/forward/reverse switch I'm not crazy (much)! This is a real time saver with lots of holes (10+)! So 3/8 tap and 3/8" material with a taper tap [no plug or machine taps, maybe 6-700 rpm. Harry
 
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