bimmer1980
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Merry Christmas! X2 of what Strouty said!
Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
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86turbodsl
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Merry Christmas to all!
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86turbodsl
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Broke for lunch, i shot a 2nd coat of fluid film in the wheel wells and threw on rear wheel liners. Going out to the shop now to throw front liners back on and then coat the rest of the car in fluid film, put wheels on and get it out of the shop. My boy is coming over to get his truck on the lift and get some work done while the temps are way up. We're hovering around 55F today. It's a long slow decline over the next week to around 32F.
Spareparts
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Little snow today and in the lower 30, kinda looks like winter has come for a visit.
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86turbodsl
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Well now we know for sure, the F150 does not fit on the 2 post lift. so i will need to get the big 4 post up for that one.
The kid will just wash his truck more this year.
The kid will just wash his truck more this year.
Strouty
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You gonna leave us hanging??? What about the instagram posts with the Audi???
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86turbodsl
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Spoke too soon on the lift. You can reconfigure the arms to make it fit. Working on the forklift today.
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bimmer1980
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Pretty quiet in this thread.... How's the shop projects going?
Is the Audi drivable now?
Which forklift are you working on?
Hopefully you got some time off from work and chipping away and things...
Is the Audi drivable now?
Which forklift are you working on?
Hopefully you got some time off from work and chipping away and things...
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86turbodsl
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Yeah it's quiet. I've been pretty busy. The big forklift is getting the alternator. I was getting tired of it not charging with the old generator. I bought a 10SI a year ago and just never got the round tuit. The mount came out great. It looks factory. I didn't have a plug for it though, so i had to order one from oreillys. It came in this morning, and i fetched it with the Audi. It drives fine, good brakes, power steering comes and goes. I think air bubbles still. It's loud. I'm not sure but i may have to yank the rear resonators and replace with something quieter. Still have a couple things to wrap up on it including the interior, but i wanted to work on something else. I will shoot some photos of the alternator install when i get back out there. Daughter is home this week and has been hounding me to play a video game with her, so i told her i would set aside some time for her tonight. I'll post back here in a little bit after i get some more work done.
bimmer1980
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That's progress for the win!!! I think it's a good thing to drive the Audi for a little while to continue to prove it out.
Taking a break and working on something else is good too.
Enjoy the time with the family!
Taking a break and working on something else is good too.
Enjoy the time with the family!
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86turbodsl
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Update: I am an idiot. Not being a GM guy, I ordered an alternator off amazon that said it was a 10SI. I got one that's externally regulated. Soooo... It doesn't work. I have another in my cart that says it's internally regulated. I guess i will try this in a day or two.
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86turbodsl
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Well here's what a 10DN alternator looks like installed on the forklift... lol.
I just cut off the bracket about where i needed it. Flattened it on the disc sander.
The generator i took off. It was original i think. Probably needs rebuild. I wasn't about to mess with it.
Made a nice set of cables back to the starter and tried several connections on the 2 pin connector, nothing made it charge.
The new 10SI i ordered, will need clocking to keep rain water out of the 2 pin. The rest of the stuff i made should theoretically work. Oh well. Learning costs something right?
I just cut off the bracket about where i needed it. Flattened it on the disc sander.
The generator i took off. It was original i think. Probably needs rebuild. I wasn't about to mess with it.
Made a nice set of cables back to the starter and tried several connections on the 2 pin connector, nothing made it charge.
The new 10SI i ordered, will need clocking to keep rain water out of the 2 pin. The rest of the stuff i made should theoretically work. Oh well. Learning costs something right?
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86turbodsl
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Working 10si installed. Also fixed steering a bit. Adjustment added travel.
jbmatth
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Funny you bring up the 10SI alternator, I am working on the one in my new to me Mustang now, when I put that setup in my cobra years ago it took a bit of searching to find one that would work, I think it is one from a 85 Firebird if I remember correctly, but needed to be clocked and one of the mounting holes drilled out, lifetime warranty has only had to be used once in the 10+ years since, but works great. Now I just have to remember how I had it wired up before haha.
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86turbodsl
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10SI on a mustang? Ok, never heard of that before. I don't see why it wouldn't work though. I do not care for how i have to rev it up to get it to charge though.
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Spent the last day and a half working on this thing:
I know you guys must be getting tired of audi content by now. This is almost done i promise.
Yanking the engine and automatic out of it.
Of course i can't find the wiper arm pullers, either one, so i can't get the ecu box lid off because the arms need to come off first.
The transmission, harness and shifter are sold.
The story is, i found a guy in detroit selling 01E 6 speeds for 150 each, and I bought both, one of which i traded for this automatic and some parts. A year later, i still haven't delivered them. I'm slow...
I know you guys must be getting tired of audi content by now. This is almost done i promise.
Yanking the engine and automatic out of it.
Of course i can't find the wiper arm pullers, either one, so i can't get the ecu box lid off because the arms need to come off first.
The transmission, harness and shifter are sold.
The story is, i found a guy in detroit selling 01E 6 speeds for 150 each, and I bought both, one of which i traded for this automatic and some parts. A year later, i still haven't delivered them. I'm slow...
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Thought i might throw this out there for discussion. What do you guys want to see next?
The following are some things i need to do this winter:
1. Continued shop clean up.
2. Boiler build and install on bathroom ceiling
3. Workbench build and tool cleanup.
4. Mezzanine finish out.
5. VW Passat TDI trans auto-manual swap
On another note, i have been hearing there may be a LOT of snow on the way. Like 10-20 inches. If we get that much, nothing will be going in or out of the shop for a while.
Also, i have been driving the Audi, it seems to be pretty ok, if a little loud. I plan to order new mufflers today to swap out the rear Jones resonators.
The following are some things i need to do this winter:
1. Continued shop clean up.
2. Boiler build and install on bathroom ceiling
3. Workbench build and tool cleanup.
4. Mezzanine finish out.
5. VW Passat TDI trans auto-manual swap
On another note, i have been hearing there may be a LOT of snow on the way. Like 10-20 inches. If we get that much, nothing will be going in or out of the shop for a while.
Also, i have been driving the Audi, it seems to be pretty ok, if a little loud. I plan to order new mufflers today to swap out the rear Jones resonators.
Strouty
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Honestly the shop cleanup will probably gain you the most bang for the buck. I know I need to work on my mess, started to get cleaned up, then, bam, it was a mess again.
bulletpruf
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#6...
Johanfpa
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I think you need to do the jobs in order that brings you the most benefits going forward, for me that would be a clean shop to enable me to work efficiently but might differ for you as there are other (unknown to me but should be known to you) factors in play.
You might not think so but you have achieved a lot over the last months, I realise all the knock backs you faced might give you that different viewpoint but looking from the sidelines in I have seen a lot of good problem solving leading to progress.
You might not think so but you have achieved a lot over the last months, I realise all the knock backs you faced might give you that different viewpoint but looking from the sidelines in I have seen a lot of good problem solving leading to progress.
jbmatth
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I used this same setup when that engine was in my cobra, it worked great for years there. I don't know exactly why I made the change but part of it was I wanted an internally regulated alternator and at the time (10-12 years ago) it seemed like the best option. I really haven't seen any problems with it charging at low RPM, but plan to wire it similarly to how it was in the cobra with the white wire running a diode to the + side of the coil (no ballast resistor in my setup).
As for projects to tackle next, I'm torn on the new boiler and shop cleanup, I think both will be huge wins for you but at least the boiler will have a definitive finish line whereas cleanup will go on forever. Maybe a few days of cleaning and then work the boiler so you have consistent heat all winter.
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I am thinking that i might hold off on vehicle projects for a bit, and focus on workshop cleanup and organization. That might have the bigger payback short term. I struggle to find things right now, and the state of the toolbox is horrible.
The boiler, is likely to take more than the remainder of the winter. Installing it also includes building the new burner 3.0, and the new preheat tank. I'm taking lessons learned and making some changes to improve usability. I will also have to rewire everything due to change of location. I'm sort of resigned to being cold again this year. Sadly.
Anyways, got the engine/trans out last night, and i'm going out now to separate them and get ready to deliver. After that, cleanup and get the car back out of the shop.
The boiler, is likely to take more than the remainder of the winter. Installing it also includes building the new burner 3.0, and the new preheat tank. I'm taking lessons learned and making some changes to improve usability. I will also have to rewire everything due to change of location. I'm sort of resigned to being cold again this year. Sadly.
Anyways, got the engine/trans out last night, and i'm going out now to separate them and get ready to deliver. After that, cleanup and get the car back out of the shop.
bimmer1980
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I think it's a good list or options to work on. Also, good progress -- glad to hear the Audi is motorvating to places!!
I think the better question to ask is, which order of steps will keep you motivated and proceeding towards YOUR goal?
I think JB makes a good point... A few hours of cleaning, then focused work on the boiler project. While it's been a moderate winter so far, it's not over.....
Having a "cleaner" work space will lend itself to more productive and fulfilling work on future projects. We're not looking for NASA clean room status, but at least some general organization of tools so you're not spending precious shop time looking for tools. I know for myself that it gets frustrated looking for tools and parts. Once I find the parts/tools, I'm not ready to actually work. Hence, I've been making incremental steps to have a spot for each item. And then put the item back where I found it!!!
It's a work in progress.....
I think the better question to ask is, which order of steps will keep you motivated and proceeding towards YOUR goal?
I think JB makes a good point... A few hours of cleaning, then focused work on the boiler project. While it's been a moderate winter so far, it's not over.....
Having a "cleaner" work space will lend itself to more productive and fulfilling work on future projects. We're not looking for NASA clean room status, but at least some general organization of tools so you're not spending precious shop time looking for tools. I know for myself that it gets frustrated looking for tools and parts. Once I find the parts/tools, I'm not ready to actually work. Hence, I've been making incremental steps to have a spot for each item. And then put the item back where I found it!!!
It's a work in progress.....
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86turbodsl
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All parts separated, wiper arms pulled, and ready to go to buyer. I will throw tires back on it after lunch and get it out of the shop.
Then full speed ahead with cleaning up.
Then full speed ahead with cleaning up.
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86turbodsl
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I totally get that. I don't have permanent spots for nearly anything in the shop, especially tools. I think that might have a high payback.
I spent 2 days looking for the wiper arm puller, which was in plain sight, just in a weird spot. The clutter acts like blinders.
Also updated the list:
1. Continued shop clean up.
2. Boiler build and install on bathroom ceiling
3. Workbench build and tool cleanup/organization.
4. Mezzanine finish out.
5. VW Passat TDI trans auto-manual swap
6. Namco mast swap (allows more on the pallet racks)
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86. 67 Fairlane coupe resurrection!!! (sorry Scott)
kent_323is
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As others have said, do what makes the most sense for you. Seems like that would be a combo of shop cleaning, and working on the boiler.
On the boiler, I know you want to rip up and move everything, but since it is winter, does it make more sense to just rebuild the burner and run it so you have heat? Then you could babysit it while you do additional cleaning and organization. And heat certainly helps with motivation for cleaning!
For me personally, I can only do so much cleaning and organization before I'm ready to dig into another project, or continue on a project that actually moves the needle ahead. It usually works better for me if I do an hour or so of cleaning, or maybe an afternoon or evening, and then after that work on a project.
I know you have listed a mast change out on the Namco, but how necessary is this? I'd focus on using the top shelves of the pallet racking for the stuff that you want to keep, but will very rarely need to be accessed, and if needed, it takes more work. What I have done is use 2x4's and plywood to sheet the top decks of my pallet racking, then I just use a ladder and put lighter/easier to handle stuff up there. I save the lower shelves that are easy to get to with the forklift for the heavy stuff that's on pallets. This system has worked very well for me. And once it's up there out of sight, it's out of mind too!
Again, do what works for you.... what's the long term goal that you want to achieve with the shop?
On the boiler, I know you want to rip up and move everything, but since it is winter, does it make more sense to just rebuild the burner and run it so you have heat? Then you could babysit it while you do additional cleaning and organization. And heat certainly helps with motivation for cleaning!
For me personally, I can only do so much cleaning and organization before I'm ready to dig into another project, or continue on a project that actually moves the needle ahead. It usually works better for me if I do an hour or so of cleaning, or maybe an afternoon or evening, and then after that work on a project.
I know you have listed a mast change out on the Namco, but how necessary is this? I'd focus on using the top shelves of the pallet racking for the stuff that you want to keep, but will very rarely need to be accessed, and if needed, it takes more work. What I have done is use 2x4's and plywood to sheet the top decks of my pallet racking, then I just use a ladder and put lighter/easier to handle stuff up there. I save the lower shelves that are easy to get to with the forklift for the heavy stuff that's on pallets. This system has worked very well for me. And once it's up there out of sight, it's out of mind too!
Again, do what works for you.... what's the long term goal that you want to achieve with the shop?
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86turbodsl
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The old boiler is just removed. It's out in the yard. Pipes cut, etc. Gone. I no longer cared to work on it. It didn't do the job it needed to.
There were problems that the new design will address. I'll get into that more as we move along.
The current mast on the Namco only lifts about 9ft max. I have 5 feet of pallet rack i can't load. It amounts to 1 shelf per section i can load. Most of the pallet racking has castered items on floor, up to about 6', with a shelf with items on it and nothing above. There's a lot of wasted space vertically.
I have a bad back, i no longer care to carry items up a ladder. If at all possible.
As far as heat, i still have the salamander. While it's loud, it does keep my hands warm enough that i can still operate. The real issue is how cold my feet get. Once those get cold, i'm done.
I'm currently struggling to get projects done timely because i can't find things quickly.
There were problems that the new design will address. I'll get into that more as we move along.
The current mast on the Namco only lifts about 9ft max. I have 5 feet of pallet rack i can't load. It amounts to 1 shelf per section i can load. Most of the pallet racking has castered items on floor, up to about 6', with a shelf with items on it and nothing above. There's a lot of wasted space vertically.
I have a bad back, i no longer care to carry items up a ladder. If at all possible.
As far as heat, i still have the salamander. While it's loud, it does keep my hands warm enough that i can still operate. The real issue is how cold my feet get. Once those get cold, i'm done.
I'm currently struggling to get projects done timely because i can't find things quickly.
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86turbodsl
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The car is out of the shop, i now am back to full access to everything on the floor.
bulletpruf
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I think that's your answer right there. If you can't put your hands on tools and/or parts that you know are somewhere in the garage, it's time for a cleanup.
bulletpruf
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Speak for yourself, mister!
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86turbodsl
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Thank you, i think that was the answer i ended up at too. I have 4 more days of vacation, hopefully i can get something done with it.
bulletpruf
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going to cry myself to sleep tonight...
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Ah shoot....
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Got an unexpected job in the shop tonight. Buddy from church wants engine/trans mounts swapped out. Guess that's tonights goal.
Cleaning shop now. I need to move the new / old audi parts out on pallet.
Cleaning shop now. I need to move the new / old audi parts out on pallet.
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86turbodsl
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Yes, i just found out my custom exhaust is slipping out of the body hangers so that's got to go back on the lift this weekend... sigh it never ends.
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So the guy didn't even make it out of his sub. Trans banging all the way. My car went on the lift instead. I'll work around it.
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My borla mufflers are not set to deliver until monday. dang.
Update: Coming today, 3 days early! I can get to work now.
Update: Coming today, 3 days early! I can get to work now.
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Strouty
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While bad for him, definitely the best for you. I have a similar problem as you, I had to learn about it.
Break 'no' down into sounds: [NOH] - say it out loud and exaggerate the sounds until you can consistently produce them.
For some reason when I say it there is always a "Yes" sound to it.
Break 'no' down into sounds: [NOH] - say it out loud and exaggerate the sounds until you can consistently produce them.
For some reason when I say it there is always a "Yes" sound to it.