Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop

[86turbodsl]

I picked up the last of the steel i needed for projects this winter. I continue to be stunned by how expensive steel is these days. A couple sticks of angle iron and couple flats was 170. Just amazing. I'm in the wrong business...

 

[Strouty]

You would be amazed how much steel I have floating around, most is galvanized so it doesn’t turn back into iron ore, no matter how badly you store it. Probably have a few hundred tons. It does **** to weld, but anytime I am making something that can bolt together, it is pretty nice. If only you were closer.

 

[86turbodsl]

No kidding. I could definitely hang out with you. No steel needed.

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[Strouty]

One of these days I will have to make it out your way, on my way to someplace with less rust.

 

[86turbodsl]

That would be a good time. Hopefully the damn virus will be done and we can act like normal people.

On another note : Success! I bought some more wire and hotwired up the heater element for 240V rather than 125V. Dumping 4 times the wattage into the floor helped a bunch. I got the tank up to about 170F before tuning the one heat line on. That enormous amount of heat dumped into the slab for a couple hours and bought me a nice clear line on the floor so i could locate the north post. I have to move it about 6 inches further north than i really wanted to, but it's not going to be too hard to navigate that on pulling in or out of the 4 post. I mean it is 10 feet between posts and anything on the 4 post is about 5-6 ft wide max. Even the trucks are only 6.5ft wide. I should be ok. So i'll draw some more lines on the concrete tomorrow and hopefully drill some anchors. Bout time.

 

[rattle_snake]

Glad you were able to re-engineer thermodynamic solution to your imaging situation. Once you get 2nd lift up you shall receive a 'you ****' notification.

but, what are you going to do with all your free time when the shop is mostly 'complete'?

 

[Strouty]

Don’t worry, it is never complete.

 

[86turbodsl]

Lol, that's a good one... complete.... Strouty is right. It's never complete. I've already seen that i have not enough space for any of the wood tools, so the back expansion is already formulating in my empty noggin...

 

[86turbodsl]

Well, it's been a short night, i arranged the 2 post frames straight and drew lines out where i wanted things, then sank 2 holes, and the drill bit doesn't make it to the bottom of the concrete. One criteria i had was that holes are thru on concrete, so anchors can be pounded down flush when i leave/die. So i need to get a longer drill bit for these 6" deep holes. That puts an end to tonights work.

To top it off, i had a super sh*tty day. I'm getting slammed at work for a project that is due first week of the new year, there's no margin for error at all. I had a stupid mistake crop up at work. Something i should not have missed. I hate the fact i am an engineer working alone on projects. Engineers almost never work alone. We check each others work. After a few dozens of hours looking at a project, you don't see things that others immediately do. And to top it off, the technicians doing the work for me always make fun of me when i miss something. When they mess up, nobody knows and it gets buried.

I'm so tired of everything. I need a vacation but my boss won't let me take one.

2020 is a dumpster fire.

 

[OldSoldier]

Sorry for your troubles 86. Hopefully in the next couple of days you can find some respite and recharge your batteries.

 

[jbmatth]

Sorry to hear about the situation at work, I'm in a similar situation, I'll review and check others designs and approve things for construction. However, if I design something there is no one to check or approve. I missed that two measurements on 12 pages of designs that were in mm whereas my industry is all inches. I'd even sent them the numbers correct in the same email chain, but because I missed them when approving drawing I got the blame. Ended up being no real extra cost to repair but I took a hit on bonus and yearly salary increase because of it.

It has been a dumpster fire, I wish you the best though.

JB

 

[86turbodsl]

Thanks JB, yeah, that situation sure *****. Similar here. I missed a dimension by 1.3mm. Without any oversight, no team, no dvp/r, no dfmea, no print reviews, and get it done in a hurry, i always take full blame. There's 100's of decisions to make on parts form/fit/function and i'm usually not an expert in every type of part, so things get missed. And it always comes out when fitup starts, so there's usually not much recourse.

I think i mentioned earlier my CAD workstation was down for weeks this year on the Win10 upgrade, so i've been playing catchup for weeks. And i did take a hit on performance review as a result, due to both the IT issue and my home internet being so slow that i can't keep moving as fast as at work. There really is a cost to living out in the sticks.

Merry Christmas man. I hope things get better for you.

 

[86turbodsl]

Sorry for your troubles 86. Hopefully in the next couple of days you can find some respite and recharge your batteries.

Thanks old, I hope so too. Hoping for some quality (although remote) family time.

 

[jbmatth]

Thanks JB, yeah, that situation sure *****. Similar here. I missed a dimension by 1.3mm. Without any oversight, no team, no dvp/r, no dfmea, no print reviews, and get it done in a hurry, i always take full blame. There's 100's of decisions to make on parts form/fit/function and i'm usually not an expert in every type of part, so things get missed. And it always comes out when fitup starts, so there's usually not much recourse.

I think i mentioned earlier my CAD workstation was down for weeks this year on the Win10 upgrade, so i've been playing catchup for weeks. And i did take a hit on performance review as a result, due to both the IT issue and my home internet being so slow that i can't keep moving as fast as at work. There really is a cost to living out in the sticks.

Merry Christmas man. I hope things get better for you.

I'm with you on the internet, ours is bad enough I can't remote login and do anything from home. About all I can do is email and open some documents on my phone and ipad. I've still had to come into the office every day from start till now even with case skyrocketing in my group. There are 12 people in my direct group and 5 were out as of Friday, I'm just here rocking my mask and trying not to get too lost. GJ helps break up the day though.

JB

 

[86turbodsl]

Yeah, it sounds like here. I had for years paid for cable modem at 10Mbit for ~ $60. When covid hit i asked them if they could do any better, they installed a DSL line and 20Mbit for $80 a month. But with everyone home, i typically see 5-10 down, ~ 1 up. SLOW to pull a ton of data / screen over. About 3 weeks ago, i finally got a call from Tmobile on home internet that i have been requesting for like a year. We got the kit and it's been running 30 Mbit down/10Mbit up. I am piping it directly into my work computer for now, in future i may pipe into the pfsense box and do a dual wan failover deal with priority for work. I think we're keeping the landline for now, so wife can watch her tv shows and may think about downgrading to save a little on cost. since they aren't delivering it anyway.

 

[86turbodsl]

Got home a little early today, done for the year, tried to bring the 2 post stuff inside, but the wind is way too strong to open the door today. I'll have to wait until it dies down later tonight before the big arctic plunge. We staged everything right by the door under the lights so we can chain up easy.

Also picked up a longer drill bit so i can get all the way thru the concrete. I'll try and get one bolted down tonight if possible.

 

[86turbodsl]

And the whole 2 post lift is indoors now. Including tractor/loader. I should be all set to hit it hard on Friday. yes i know it's Christmas. Ours is happening Thurs, so friday is family clear. The frigid weather hits tomorrow, so shop is closed up tight.

 

[bulletpruf]

Excellent! What's left to do before the lift is fully operational?

 

[ClappedOutBport]

Sorry you're having such a rough week 86. Sounds like you at least made some progress! Your adventures in lifts sound very time consuming but probably worth it in the long run.

I finally fixed that 330A/BP no HF start problem. We figure you were right about the relay, bought a new one, stuck it in, still nothing. So we really studied it closely: it worked on continuous, the relay was clearly working correctly, so it had to be between the relay and the HF. So we start poking at the wires and dad finds that the wire immediately off the relay has no connection. Put a new end on it and it works. Go figure. So I guess we've got a spare relay now. Didn't help that dad and I were examining the wrong relay most of the time haha. I'm starting to really like that welder, it kicks *** on Aluminum and I've got a lot of that coming up.

 

[racer-john]

Merry Xmas all, and a prosperous New Year.

 

[86turbodsl]

Excellent! What's left to do before the lift is fully operational?

I have to erect the lift posts, connect the chains, install the VFD and check electrics, then figure out the plan with the lift arms. I *think* the lathe makes more sense here, as the lift company that bought Benwil IP wants 200+ USD for a lift pad adapter. I'll show more of that when i get the lift up and arms installed. ACME thread / welding and lathe work.

 

[86turbodsl]

Sorry you're having such a rough week 86. Sounds like you at least made some progress! Your adventures in lifts sound very time consuming but probably worth it in the long run.

I finally fixed that 330A/BP no HF start problem. We figure you were right about the relay, bought a new one, stuck it in, still nothing. So we really studied it closely: it worked on continuous, the relay was clearly working correctly, so it had to be between the relay and the HF. So we start poking at the wires and dad finds that the wire immediately off the relay has no connection. Put a new end on it and it works. Go figure. So I guess we've got a spare relay now. Didn't help that dad and I were examining the wrong relay most of the time haha. I'm starting to really like that welder, it kicks *** on Aluminum and I've got a lot of that coming up.

Glad you got it fixed, i really like my 330, that thing has a TON of power for stick. I did fine on steel TIG, but hadn't tried it on aluminum yet, since the syncros showed up. What i like about the 330, and probably why i keep it, is that it is dead simple. Nothing much to go wrong. I do like the syncro though.

 

[86turbodsl]

Merry Christmas GJ denizens!!! Blessings to all!

 

[Duker]

I hope your Christmas time is filled with time in the shop and many checks marked off your todo list! Merry Christmas!


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[Strouty]

Merry Christmas!

 

[86turbodsl]

Got this done today. The holes in the frame are smaller than the other lift and the anchors won't fit thru, so I had to drill 2 and install then drill the rest and pull frame and then final install.

The next problem is the loader won't lift the post high enough from the lowest available attachment point so I'm going to have to umm get creative. More on that in a bit.
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[86turbodsl]

Ok, so the next step was to figure out how to get the offside post lifted up high enough to set on the installed frame. There weren't any holes or anything to grab hold of. I needed to grab at 8 ft so the lift could actually lift it. Ended up welding a 3/4 in plate scrap on the post, which got me just high enough to lift onto the frame. Then levers moved it around and i loosened the post just enough to have slack to line up a hole and install a bolt then lever it around to install the others. Done.

I do need to plumb the post up though. It's not 100% plumb. I think a small shim on the north side will plumb it up. Close enough for this job anyway. THEN the hard part starts. I need to lift the power side into place, onto the frame, UNATTACHED, then lift the cross beam into place and bolt in, then plumb up the other post and install anchors. Since the anchors won't go thru the holes, i will need to drill 2, then remove the post, remove the frame, install anchors, reinstall frame, drill holes, remove frame, install anchors, reinstall frame, reinstall post, tighten. Sounds like a ton of work.


And, I need to cut that plate off and clean up.

 

[Strouty]

I would just enlarge the holes in the tabs and use washers or use epoxy and studs. That sounds like way too much work for sure.

 

[86turbodsl]

It does doesn't it? I'll probably still do it though since it's all here and I don't have either epoxy and studs or any good way to open up those holes.

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[Strouty]

I can understand that.

 

[86turbodsl]

Made some more progress.

I haven't drilled holes yet. Trying to figure out what location the post wants so everything is plumb. It's fighting me a bit.



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[86turbodsl]

With a little help today got the lift post bolted down. Still have some shimming to do for plumbing the posts but she's bolted down. Once that's done need to get the chains out and cleaned up to install.

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[racer-john]

Nice progress 86.

 

[86turbodsl]

Lift is bolted down 100pct now. Got it pretty plumb. Just a hair off.

Let's fix this.



There. That's better.

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[86turbodsl]

After this, i setup a puller and tried to get all the arms yanked out. It worked, mostly. Oh well, 3 for 4 aint bad.

Last one i set on end and poured ATF down the arm. It's leaking all over, but maybe it'll free up by tomorrow.

 

[86turbodsl]

Nice progress 86.

Thank you sir!

 

[Strouty]

That lift must have lost at least 50 HP removing that sticker.........

 

[86turbodsl]

Haha! I'll have to find a Hyundai sticker...

 

[Strouty]

Haha! I'll have to find a Hyundai sticker...

Careful.....

 

[86turbodsl]

A work project a long time ago was to put a supercharger on a V8. I know how to make HP. Can't get much more specific without outing myself. Haha.