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u3b3rg33k

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Geez. Crazy pricing.

I paid $140 for my non-prescription pair. it's always fun getting yelled at by a site safety guy then showing him the Z87+ mark. They age (and fit) so much better than the cheapo protective lenses. I've had them for at least 8 years now.
 
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I managed to get my workplace to pay for a pair for me, They were a little over a 150 for prescription bifocals, but last time i got a sliver in my eye, i was wearing them! I am thinking there must be something about the shape of my face or something that directs them into it. I am thinking i need something that hugs my face. That's why i said goggles. Things would sure be a lot easier if i didn't wear glasses.
 
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86turbodsl

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I found a wiley x i like, just have to convince myself i want to spend that much on glasses that will go obsolete in a year.
 

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I managed to get my workplace to pay for a pair for me, They were a little over a 150 for prescription bifocals, but last time i got a sliver in my eye, i was wearing them! I am thinking there must be something about the lassshape of my face or something that directs them into it. I am thinking i need something that hugs my face. That's why i said goggles. Things would sure be a lot easier if i didn't wear glasses.
I need glasses all the time and it took me years to find a set of prescription safety glasses I like. They are curved and form fitting and don't have to have separate side shields. I wear mine all the time. I have 5 or 6 sets both clear and tinted. I don't like the auto darkening ones for shop use.
 

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I had a sliver fall out of my hair before dinner after doing some die grinding. Doc got it out pretty easily, but it wasn't until the following Monday. Sometimes you just can't win.
 
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I need glasses all the time and it took me years to find a set of prescription safety glasses I like. They are curved and form fitting and don't have to have separate side shields. I wear mine all the time. I have 5 or 6 sets both clear and tinted. I don't like the auto darkening ones for shop use.
What brand do you use? I can get up to 150 from work for them, more than that i have to cover.
 
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I had a sliver fall out of my hair before dinner after doing some die grinding. Doc got it out pretty easily, but it wasn't until the following Monday. Sometimes you just can't win.
Maybe that's what happened to me. Unsure. Wasn't grinding that day. No compressed air work either. Who knows.
 

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What brand do you use? I can get up to 150 from work for them, more than that i have to cover.
I like Wiley x the best so comfortable and not ugly that I wear them all the time on the weekend. I like the curve model best but I think it's discontinued. A distant 2nd place is Uvex Titmus. Not as stylish but just as comfortable and protective and much cheaper. Both wiley x and the uvex offer removable foam gaskets.
 
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Shop update: Been trying to get more work done on the Namco wiring, i designed and made a fuse block/relay mounting block to replace the old generator voltage regulator. Got it primed and painted. Dried if over a kerosene heater in the house. WANTED to get that installed and more wiring done last night, but didn't even make it out there. We were buried in dishes from dinner, wife was supposed to help make progress on that, then my kid came downstairs screaming about his arm hurting, he just started a new job and had a repetitive strain injury, and he has a super low pain tolerance so it kept him from sleeping. Wife took him to the ER so they could prescribe ibuprofen and tylenol. FML. Nobody listens to me. That's what i told them to do.

The burner in the shop has significantly degraded as i knew it would, from flame on uncooled steel. The end of the tube in the boiler is very thin and starting to flake off. I'm pretty sure i can get it to last the rest of the season though. We're almost done with cold weather. So far, fuel consumption for the year looks like about 250 gallons. That kept the shop at minimum of 42-44 and maximum of 60F for the whole winter. I had 900 gals storage inside, so i think i should be good for any circumstance without having to pump anything in cold weather. It's not a huge deal anymore really, since with the forklift i can move totes of oil now. Interesting how plans always change.

Since we had a big thaw last week, and we generated a huge lake of water in the backyard, with 2 cars sitting in it, the one that i wanted to get the interior out of needs to be moved to the front of the class to get stripped and dried out if i want to salvage anything. The water did recede quite a bit, i had water over the hubs on the car and 4-6in of water inside, we're down to water line at the bottom of the floor pans now. And frozen again. Sooo... 2 more days till the weekend, anyone want to take bets on how far i can get the Namco wired and floor cleared? I did finally adjust the pallet racking over the welding table, so i can start loading that up at least. Still need to weld up some structure for the part that elbows around over the door. Additional pallet racking is available to continue down the wall also, so even with a limited mast height, i have approximately 20 sqft per shelf and about 5 shelves i can load. Palletized, that can be quite a bit of storage.
 

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Interesting.... Do you have plenty of pallets? I saw Strouty has a truck load of them....

I think the more you get up and off the floor, the better.

I will say that not having all the stuff on the floor to clog up work space and mental space will prove helpful going forward. Be aggressive to get it racked .....

We're pulling for you...
 
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I have 2 big stacks of them and i can steal from the wife if i need to. We have palletized her hay for several years now. I have no interest in slinging hay bales for the rest of my days.
 
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Sweet. A co-worker came down with Covid, and i was within 6 ft of him for more than 15 minutes, so per company policy i get to quarantine at home for 10 days. Oh well, my shop will be well heated! Ha!
 

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Sweet. A co-worker came down with Covid, and i was within 6 ft of him for more than 15 minutes, so per company policy i get to quarantine at home for 10 days. Oh well, my shop will be well heated! Ha!
They still pay you for that, yes? Should fit under the "engaged to wait" category, not "waiting to engage."
 
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Yes, i can work from home. Not as effectively, but still hooked up to company systems with the home battlestation.

Same here. I love teleworking. No commute, no need to get dressed up, can exercise whenever I want (within reason), etc.

We've fluctuated depending on current COVID situation, but right now we're capped at 25% of our personnel in the office. For me, that means usually 1 day in the office per week.
 
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Yeah, i can't say i am complaining. Covid was a big step change for our company. Before covid, unless your *ss was in your chair, you weren't working, preferably as much as possible overtime too. On March 19, 2019, i fired up at home and stayed home for weeks. First telecommute ever. I think they were scared of it. NOBODY did it before. For most of us, nothing really changed working from home. So now they are saying we'll have some WFH going on even after it's all over with. Probably 2 days a week. No commute was my big one. 2hrs a day and the cash back in my pocket.
 
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Working on the wiring. The cheapo amazon fuse block i bought is wired weird. It looks like the wire from the battery to the ignition switch can't get a fuse. Everything after that can get a fuse. Anybody got strong feelings on that? I suppose i could scab in a fusible link. I really am not super excited about unprotected wires. But the original harness had ZERO protection, so maybe it's ok?
 

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I would punt on the fusible link. It's a 12 volt battery to an ignition switch. If everything is fused after that, not a big deal.

Let's get this beast going....
 
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I ended up running to the store and getting a fuse holder and 30a fuse. I absolutely hate tracking down busted wiring. The wire to the switch is about 20-25in long. I finished that line and the one back to the fuse block. I now have switched power to the fuse block. My knees were giving out so i just quit for the night. The hardest part of the whole deal is getting all the wires to sit in the spot i want them in. There isn't much for harness retention in that thing.

In any case, i should be able to get the majority of the rest of it done tomorrow assuming no more roadblocks and sufficient time.

The circuits i know i have to provide -

Horn - 20A
Starter - straight wire to solenoid
Ignition - 10A
Alternator field -10A
Fuel pump - 5A
Gauges - 5A

There's an oil switch interlock in there somewhere, but i think i'm going to work out a delay for starting purposes and just add that later. For now, straight to the solenoid.
 
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Ok, my knees gave out, i have a working, starting namco with an hourmeter, a gas gauge, a voltmeter, and a working alternator.

Left to go: Oil pressure hard line, horn, wrap harness wires, exhaust clamps, find air cleaner, and a mast swap in the distant future.
 

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Yeah, i can't say i am complaining. Covid was a big step change for our company. Before covid, unless your *ss was in your chair, you weren't working, preferably as much as possible overtime too. On March 19, 2019, i fired up at home and stayed home for weeks. First telecommute ever. I think they were scared of it. NOBODY did it before. For most of us, nothing really changed working from home. So now they are saying we'll have some WFH going on even after it's all over with. Probably 2 days a week. No commute was my big one. 2hrs a day and the cash back in my pocket.

Not surprised to hear that y'all will continue telework moving forward. Companies that can telework will have to offer it in order to remain competitive. Otherwise, they'll lose the best employees to companies that are offering it.
 
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86turbodsl

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Yeah that's pretty much what i've heard managers saying. I think they'll limit it to 2x a week though. Might still be hard to retain ppl. Most of the big 3 have moved to a 100% WFH situation. A friends wife works for Ford she hasn't been to the office in years. Saves companies a big chunk of change too. They don't have to keep offices lit up.

On another note, the car that was flooded looked to be dried enough to move to the shop, so i got the tractor out this morning and tried to yank it out. I ended up burying the tractor down to the frame. Even with chains it wouldn't climb back up out of the hole it dug itself. MOST of the hole digging was just me trying to get away from the car and give up.
Eventually, i gave up and went and got the forklift and lifted it out of the hole and filled the holes back in so i could put it away in shame... :(
 
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Well i ran out of label tape for the label maker, and i'm not waiting days for further progress on this machine. It runs and drives now, so we'll be putting up pallets today.

Here's the progress as of last night.
Made and installed a new fuse block and holder, in place of the voltage regulator.
Ran circuits for alternator, starter, fuel pump and most gauges.
I'll tidy up a bit and then give it a go.
Attached are some photos of the build.
 

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