Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop

[86turbodsl]

Nope, no moat. Ground was frozen at the time. I think maybe the car tires were frozen to the ground. Once i started digging holes with the tire chains, there wasn't enough friction to get back out. Good thing the Oliver forklift has enough *** to lift the whole thing up. Once i disconnected, lifted and filled in the holes, i was able to get out of it. the holes were about a foot deep in the shape of a tire.

 

[racer-john]

Have you provided a water-proof cover for that fuse block?

 

[Strouty]

Covers are overrated, especially for inside forklifts.....

 

[bimmer1980]

We need to see pictures of the mud bogging!!! Sounds fun for a Monday! Lol....


Or not...

 

[86turbodsl]

So this is what i got loaded tonight. It's not much, but it's a start. Cleared some significant floor space, at least it feels like it. Family "issues" prevented a more thorough cleaning.

 

[Strouty]

For some reason all I can think of is "We're going to need a bigger boat".

All kinds of goodies, looks like the phrase "That'll buff right out" can be true when you have a big enough buffer.....

 

[86turbodsl]

You know, i was kind of taking mental inventory last night, it's almost all stuff in mid-project that will all go away as projects finish. Not helpful, i know...

 

[86turbodsl]

Have you provided a water-proof cover for that fuse block?

it came with one. But i'm not done wiring yet so...

 

[racer-john]

WOW, just WOW.

 

[86turbodsl]

Now you know why it takes forever to get something done.

 

[bimmer1980]

I appreciate your candidness and willingness to post a pic of the shop.......

That said, I think there is plenty of "opportunity" to "5S" the area..... As the saying goes, when you use an ax to chop a tree down, the first step is sharpening the ax. Not to state the obvious, but taking a little time to organize and prepare the work area might go a long ways.....

On the up side, the floor does look nice of the areas that we can see! looks to be clean concrete--no oil stains, etc.

 

[Strouty]

You know, i was kind of taking mental inventory last night, it's almost all stuff in mid-project that will all go away as projects finish. Not helpful, i know...

I use that excuse, err, I mean reason, all the time.

 

[86turbodsl]

Bimmer, i am in agreement, but at a bit of a loss what to get rid of. I have a TON of stuff to put away, such as bolts, terminals, fasteners, etc. All over the floor. But nowhere to put them yet. I have drawers i plan to build dividers for, but can't do that until i can drag out the table saw. Need room to work. No room to work until i clear space. I could probably get a container and put a lot in there, but then i have to go out there and rummage around for things and that wastes time too.

I think the plan right now is put up as much pallet racking as possible, load it up with projects in-situ and get floor space to start getting things knocked out. There's quite a lot of things that just need put back together that are taking up floor space.
I need floor space to go disassemble the mezzanine so it can get moved along the south wall. Once that's done, the last lift can go up. dominos at some point.

 

[86turbodsl]

Working on structure for pallet racking over in the corner by the fuse panel. The L-shaped area. Made an upright extension, fastened to the pallet racking, set at correct height, welded angle onto it that sits on a ledge for the fuse box supports, then made an extension down to the floor and welded that in.

I think the plan is to build struts that bridge beams right in the corner, and set the 20hp RPC motor on it. The pony and clutch will hang below it, just above my head, right behind the door when it's full open. I think if i keep the hinge for the pony right on the bridge struts, the belt will be short and it'll be high enough to never knock into it. That's the plan anyway. I'm going to have to rig something up to make the forklift lift higher, since that's going to be just out of reach of the 98" lift height of the Namco. Probably a combination of tilt and scabbed on steel. We shall see. Once that's off the floor, i am going to palletize all the electric motors sitting on the floor and get those up, along with some boxes right in the entryway.

another big box i could get off the floor is the air dryer. That thing is big and heavy and sitting in the way.

 

[Chrisb62]

WOW, just WOW.

No disrespect to anybody ... some people work in their space that looks like this and are comfortable, others have to be surgically clean, but most of us are happiest in between...... when it becomes uncomfortable we "clean up" to what is comfortable. I believe that the winter was very hard on 86 and things got out of hand with furnace issues and such .....he is no longer comfortable and is making his way back to "HIS" comfortable place. He showed us his not happy place and will show us the happy place when he gets there. We should not judge but instead prod ,goad and shove him to get it done.



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[Strouty]

If the Namco had regular forks, you could flip them upside down to get more reach, but those look like they can't do that, maybe I am wrong?

 

[86turbodsl]

It's got the bar-thru forks. I'm not a fan.

 

[86turbodsl]

At lunch i went out and cut a tab to lag bolt the upright i built last night to the wall at the fuse panel, and now i will get a grate cut and installed to get some boxes off the floor, then tonight i will make the RPC motor struts. Got to keep the forward momentum. I'll throw up some pics a little later.

 

[ClappedOutBport]

If the Namco had regular forks, you could flip them upside down to get more reach, but those look like they can't do that, maybe I am wrong?

Is that considered an ok practice? I noticed I could do that with mine but didn't know if there was a stress reason not to. Will be very useful with low ceilings.

 

[86turbodsl]

I can't think of a reason you couldn't from the fork's perspective. Might affect stresses in the carriage. I'd have to look at it to know for sure.

EDIT: Thought of something. The fork retention at the 90 degree part of the fork changes from compression to tension. Depending on design of it, might be your weak point. Just watch your loading.

 

[bulletpruf]

Is there a project that you can box up and move to a shelf? I realize you have several things that are a work in progress, but sometimes you have to take a break. I did that recently with a chainsaw that I bought in 2016 or so. It was in pieces, but I lost momentum and it was in the way, so I boxed it up and put it on the shelf. Finally got to it last year; came out nice.

 

[86turbodsl]

Man, that's a nice Stihl. Yes, actually have been doing that. I put a project up on rack last night. Cleared several feet of floor space. That's the plan for now. Put everything up, tackle one thing at a time. (basically put stuff together, complete projects)

 

[bimmer1980]

Keep at it! I think clearing some of the projects will help you focus on the task at hand....

In general, they say that people **** at multi-tasking. I find this to be true...especially for me. If applying singular focus on one project at a time, you can get better results. Not to say you can't have multiple projects, just to be careful of how you manage them and your focus.

Because of an event that I had in my garage last summer, I cleaned up and shoved a "few" things in the back half. I then hung up some tarps from ceiling to floor that hide the stuff. I actually feel better about not seeing it every time I walk into the garage. There is a sense of calm seeing the simple black tarp. I can still easily get to the stuff, but it is not a mental drain to see all of the "to do" list.

All that to say, I'm happy to see progress on the forklift and now potential progress on the shop space.

Remember when you were agonizing over the crankshaft tapped hole? We were all pushing you to get past this so that progress keeps moving. And here we are, you've made some progress!!

 

[bulletpruf]

Man, that's a nice Stihl. Yes, actually have been doing that. I put a project up on rack last night. Cleared several feet of floor space. That's the plan for now. Put everything up, tackle one thing at a time. (basically put stuff together, complete projects)

Yeah, it's a nice 038 Magnum that I sourced from the UK when I was living in Italy. Had the case powder coated, installed NOS full wrap handle, NOS tank, fully rebuilt, etc. Sold it a few months ago on eBay; it ended up going back to Italy, of all places.

I have a hard time tackling only one project at a time. For me, with cars, outdoor power equipment, etc, I need to tear something down before I can order parts. And once parts are ordered, it usually takes a week for everything to arrive, so I put it to the side and work on another project until parts arrive. I find that I can handle about 3 ongoing projects before I run out of space and/or my head explodes.

 

[86turbodsl]

I agree with you on concurrent projects. It takes way WAY too long to do projects fully sequentially, although Amazon has made things better on next day stuff. It's compounded by the fact i like older things where sourcing is much more difficult and time consuming. I do feel like i am gaining on it though.

 

[86turbodsl]

Here's some photos of current state. The floor by the buckets used to hold all this stuff on the racking. It condensed nicely. That is my son's manual swap project on his truck.

The 20hp motor here is what's going up next.

The burner tube is steadily degrading. The end is falling off. It's not a danger, but will continue to direct flame onto cast iron rather than into the firebrick. It's days are limited.

 

[86turbodsl]

I built the cross members for the RPC tonight, tried to use the beam off the engine hoist with full tilt on the namco to get it high enough, no go. Then i put the forks under the motor, and strapped it to the mast for safety and threw it up on top to get a measurement for the first cross member drilling on the motor mount. I have that measurement now, so I pulled it back down and will drill the first cross beam and attach to the motor then throw it up and mark the second, then drill it in place. Less than ideal, but it will have to do. Then that motor will be off the floor for the first time in 2 years.

 

[kent_323is]

Great, now you're making progress!

A working forklift makes a world of a difference in moving heavy stuff easily.... I own 3 forklifts.... 1 at my big shop, and 1 forklift at my acreage for outdoor use, and 1 electric pallet lift (72" lift) in the garage.

 

[86turbodsl]

I'm lamenting the fact i didn't swap the mast already... slinging 200+ lbs of iron over my head is making me nervous!

 

[bimmer1980]

Never stand under the load!!!!

I think the value of a working forklift at the moment is worth more than additional down time to get the mast done. Also, being able to run it will make sure the issues are worked out before you take it down for the mast change.

Just the value of being able to move some stuff around has got to feel good! And you can clear some space to make it more efficient to do the mast change.

 

[86turbodsl]

Agreed, that is the plan. As for standing under the load, i have no choice. It's in a corner. Hence the safety strap.

 

[86turbodsl]

New toy. I borrowed the one from work and liked it so much i bought my own. Does heat shrink for harnesses and all normal stuff like labeling toolboxes.

 

[86turbodsl]

Got the motor mounted. That was some super sketchy work right there. Drilled and bolted one side on, lifted it up there with forklift, then backed out an inch at a time, then blocked up the middle both ends with wood and pulled 2nd bar out and drilled, then put back slowly and bolted in. super sketchy. Wifey showed up to watch about halfway thru, wouldn't leave while i was hovering under the motor. She's a good gal.

 

[Perrorojo]

I agree with you on concurrent projects. It takes way WAY too long to do projects fully sequentially, although Amazon has made things better on next day stuff. It's compounded by the fact i like older things where sourcing is much more difficult and time consuming. I do feel like i am gaining on it though.

I think I've learned that some people (myself, dad) aren't capable of going from working in a messy shop to maintaining an organized shop without a 3rd party or inheriting a space that was pristine and maintaining it. I've cleaned up so many times and it always comes back to chaos. The only reason our woodshop stays clean is because my wife makes me clean up before I leave.

 

[86turbodsl]

We all need one of those in our lives don't we? (clean wife) I wish mine was like that, but the medical issues she has keeps her from doing much.

 

[86turbodsl]

This morning i took a drive to Ionia and bought a rear recaro seat from an S4 being parted out. that should replace the one from Detroit i screwed up dragging home. I should have a whole S4 interior now, and that will go in the DD Audi. I hear the recaros are luscious to sit in.

Aired up all 4 tires on the spare audi parts car and attached a LOOOONG chain/strap to it to get the tractor out of the muck, and YANKED it forward about 30ft out of the ice. It was glued to the ice as i assumed. Managed to break the driver motor mount and bend the frame horn doing it. The other nice little detail is i put it in park when i put it there, and its' frozen into that position. EITHER it rusted that way, or it's just frozen linkage. Probably need a few more hours out of the ice bath to get half a chance of it thawing out. I'll keep trying. It's somewhere around 60F outside, for ONE day, and we're supposed to have a ferocious wind tonight and back down to snow temps. Wheee. Only one side of the car is full of water, but it's starting to get a little musty in there. Need to get on it. If i didn't care about undercarriage, i'd just fork it over there with the big guy, but i actually do need some underbody stuff.

After it gets dark, i'll work in the shop some more. I dragged out the other half of the RPC and i need to figure out how to make a pivot from the big motor struts. Should be fun...

 

[86turbodsl]

Got the shifter freed up, dragged the car to the shop, sucked over 20 gallons of water out of the car. It'll be drying out for a week at least. On to the shop work.

 

[Strouty]

Sounds like you have made some progress for sure, with the waterlogged car, are you stripping it down and then sending it or is it going to hang out? Just curious, I can't seem to get rid of my parts vehicles.....

 

[86turbodsl]

Im stripping the parts i want and selling what i can and sending to the yard.

 

[86turbodsl]

Found a dehumidifier on marketplace yesterday and went and fetched it. Got back to the car and found it full of water again. Vacced it back out, put dehumidifier in and set it going. Got about a quart out before i shut it off and brought inside. We have a couple days of cold weather.