Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop

[Strouty]

The trouble with the 4BT is that it's 3.9L, and in a 4cyl package. 4 cylinders have a bad 2nd order motion that starts to get really bad when engine size goes much above 2.5L, and it's REALLY bad in the 4BT. So you end up with a lot of vibration, or a lot of bandaids to get it livable. I know people do it, but i'm not interested in a lot of vibration in a daily.

My 4 banger has a huge internal balancing assembly, it is 8.5 liters.

 

[83VillageRepair]

I'm on day 3 of daily on the bike. I wonder how long until my hands' feeling comes back...

I thought Vmax's were smooth My W800 will vibrate the **** out of you.

 

[86turbodsl]

My 4 banger has a huge internal balancing assembly, it is 8.5 liters.

Is it rigid mounted? The forces would be gigantic.

 

[86turbodsl]

I thought Vmax's were smooth My W800 will vibrate the **** out of you.

Relatively speaking, it is smooth, compared to an inline. It doesn't take much for me to lose feeling in my hands. I bought a cruise control to put on it, but haven't gotten a round tuit yet.

 

[racer-john]

I was just looking for my "round tuit", thought I had lost it, but no it was just hiding on my desk.
Now to get back to work.

 

[ClappedOutBport]

How do other people deal with these types of things? Just bring barrels of cash? Write big checks?

Oof man. Life doesn't let you have anything easy...

I guess for me I've always been able to appreciate my folks. Dad has a low mileage 05 Camry as a second car. Nobody likes to drive it. So it never breaks. Still under 100k on that one. The he and mom have a dailies and truck. Generally, at least 3 are running. As such, I can pretty much take one on loan anytime. His old Isuzu did die after 17 years of his ownership so we canibalised it for parts and he bought an 05 which is worse in some ways. My 99 z3 has only broke and been undriveable twice, both times failures in the immobilization/security system, nothing major mechanical has ever broken in the ~8 years I've had it. *Knocks on wood*. When I do do work on it, I try to shotgun a lot of potential failures. When I did the front shocks, I did every related moving component except the wheel bearings and steering rack. Still only $500 and should have me for another 80-150k miles.

The trouble with the 4BT is that it's 3.9L, and in a 4cyl package. 4 cylinders have a bad 2nd order motion that starts to get really bad when engine size goes much above 2.5L, and it's REALLY bad in the 4BT. So you end up with a lot of vibration, or a lot of bandaids to get it livable. I know people do it, but i'm not interested in a lot of vibration in a daily.

Isuzu 3.9L is the same way. But oh! They went bigger! 5.2L now. Shakes the cab like a mofo when you turn it off.

i picked up a hydraulic cable crimper from amazon. Man, does that thing work nice.

Yesss. Love those. Ring terminals, glue lined heat shrink and welding cable for me from now on. No lead.

 

[bulletpruf]

i picked up a hydraulic cable crimper from amazon. Man, does that thing work nice. So much better crimps than we've been doing up to this point. The kid's truck will have awesome cables. I'm also thinking of emptying the shop out into the yard to help with cleaning. It's almost paralyzing where we're at right now. That would also allow some wall painting and more pallet racking erecting if it's that clean. I need to stay on mission and get at least 2 cars up though, so that's primary focus.

I'm on day 3 of daily on the bike. I wonder how long until my hands' feeling comes back...

Did you get the Iwiss? That looks like an excellent crimper at a very good price. I have an FTZ, I think, back home in Texas, but I may pick up an Iwiss to use here, since all I have is the hammer lug crimper, and I don't think they work as well - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E1UUVT0/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[86turbodsl]

I got this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XR8BY65/?tag=atomicindus08-20

It works nice. For the price i can't complain. It's one of those tools you don't use every day, but sure appreciate when you need it. I figured since i am into welding, it might be nice to do a proper crimp without the stupid hammer crimper. I borrow one from work now and then, but it's not very good. Up through 2/0 covers 99% of my needs.

 

[Bob Heine]

@86turbodsl, I labeled the case to remind me I have that hydraulic crimper. A couple of heavy fence gates needed cables and turnbuckles and it's nice to be able to make up the loops without those tiny u-bolt clamps. I almost forgot I had the crimper.

 

[Strouty]

Is it rigid mounted? The forces would be gigantic.

Not exactly sure how it works, the engine is a 50 Series Detroit and it weighs in at about 2200 pounds. It will eventually be installed in Perk since I can't fit the six cylinder version in my engine bay.

 

[86turbodsl]

Ah, mass. That does a lot to reduce reaction forces. Mass is a bandaid.

 

[86turbodsl]

Sweet. I was just informed that my second German visitor went home and tested positive for Covid. I let the rest of the team know and i'm on vacation this week. Hope my natural immunity still works... had C19 in April.

 

[86turbodsl]

OMG. Every single time i interact with the kid we get into an argument. ALWAYS about his stupid truck.
I just want it gone.

 

[bulletpruf]

When does your week off from work start?

 

[bimmer1980]

Similar to most kids, they know how to push your buttons....

They escalate until they get a reaction.

Good luck on the vehicle repairs.

 

[86turbodsl]

When does your week off from work start?

Started Friday after work. I'm off until the 5th. I'm finally done with today's chores. Now checking GJ and going out to work.

And in other news, my kid decided he's going to move out. He recognizes he has it really good, and wants a reality dose to get "recalibrated". At $460 a week income, he's going to be spread thin.

 

[86turbodsl]

Bulletpruf, enjoying your 6.9 teardown.

 

[bulletpruf]

Bulletpruf, enjoying your 6.9 teardown.

Thanks. I just uploaded Video 3 - teardown and inspection of a 7.3 IDI turbo that I sourced. Good thing I got it cheap!!!

Please keep us updated on the car repairs. Pics would be nice, too!

 

[86turbodsl]

Thanks. I just uploaded Video 3 - teardown and inspection of a 7.3 IDI turbo that I sourced. Good thing I got it cheap!!!

Please keep us updated on the car repairs. Pics would be nice, too!

Haha! Already saw it this morning. I'll try and take some photos as i empty out the shop too.

 

[86turbodsl]

The kid's truck is pretty much together except exhaust, we've fired it, i figured out the wiring change for the manual, and the wife made me promise not to try and put the hood back on with just the two of us until she gets home tonight. I think the one wiring change and it can back out of the shop and find a short term parking spot. It's going to need some tuning to run right. There's no emissions left on it, and there's currently no o2 on it, but that shouldn't affect running. I had to pull distributor so i think timing is way off.

 

[86turbodsl]

Couldn't figure out why truck wasn't firing. Checked fuel pressure, nadda. Wife was dinking with the switches in the cab, turned it on the rear tank, which has a dead pump. Doh! Runs great now, sounds like NASCAR.

On to the yard cleaning...

 

[83VillageRepair]

got to love ford dual tanks

 

[Strouty]

GM ones are pretty fun too, I don't think anyone has the dual tank switch system down pat, the military trucks I have are the best ones so far.

 

[bimmer1980]

How are the projects going this week? We're curious on shop pictures!! ;-)

 

[86turbodsl]

Checking in. No pics. Back flared up, been laid up most of the week. Really unhappy about it.

 

[bulletpruf]

Checking in. No pics. Back flared up, been laid up most of the week. Really unhappy about it.

Damn. Hate it when I take off work to get stuff done and end up getting sick or banged up.

 

[racer-john]

Get well soon, we need you!

 

[bimmer1980]

sorry to hear about the back. I totally understand and I get the frustration. Unfortunately, that seems to take time to subside.

I will say, the roller ball "Icy Hot" seems to help. It's easier to apply than some of the other lidocane lotions.

 

[Strouty]

Hope your back is feeling better or at least not feeling worse.

 

[86turbodsl]

Very slowly getting better. Agonizing slow. I hate it.

 

[Johanfpa]

Not nice to have your plans scuppered by back issues, the important bit is to listen to your body and let it get better rather than pushing through the issues because out of bitter experience the price one pays for doing so is much bigger.

 

[bimmer1980]

Happy 4th of July!

Hopefully your back is feeling a little better.

 

[86turbodsl]

Thanks to all and happy 4th of July to all as well. I am slowly getting better, but oh so slow. Back at work today, from home, trying to invert and be careful / move around often. Lunch was lying down. I got my boy to help me move some things around in the shop last couple days and wife and daughter helped me with some painting.
The namco was able to pickup the bridgeport. It was on the edge though.
It turns out it was a blessing to have back trouble when i did. If i had been able to full speed ahead, instead of convalescing, i would have emptied the shop out into the yard, then everything would have been doused by the multiple un-predicted rainstorms over the last few days. It literally went from 3% chance of rain for over a week to "oh, seems we have a storm coming through, sorry about that..."
Plan is to finish the grey bottom paint tonight, then tomorrow perhaps, bring in more pallet racking to start loading. At some point, the **** in the way of the door goes back to more permanent homes, and daughter's A4 comes in for a wheel bearing. I was able to get 2 cars fixed and operational, parts ordered for the truck, and parts on hand for the A4. So next week, kid goes back to work, we might have to work around that a bit. We shall see. I think riding the bike to work for 3 days straight was part of what sent me down the back pain rabbit hole, michigan potholes are legendary, and that bike rides too stiff.
Pics for your pleasure.

 

[bimmer1980]

Glad to hear you are feeling a bit better..... It is a process...

In spite of pain you made some progress! That is worth something. Having the family help is good!

The Namco is serving you well! We knew it would, so that is why we pushed so hard to work through the issues. don't let perfect get in the way of "good 'nough"

 

[bulletpruf]

Sounds like the back issues were a blessing in disguise!

 

[86turbodsl]

Bulletpruf, 100%.

 

[Strouty]

I bet a bit of counterweight and the namco will be great. Glad to hear you are on the mend, even a slow mend is better than getting worse. No more bike for you!

 

[83VillageRepair]

I bet a bit of counterweight and the namco will be great. Glad to hear you are on the mend, even a slow mend is better than getting worse. No more bike for you!

If you were closer I could give you a stack of cast iron pump jack weights to use as a counterweight. I have 1000's of lbs of them.

 

[86turbodsl]

I bet a bit of counterweight and the namco will be great. Glad to hear you are on the mend, even a slow mend is better than getting worse. No more bike for you!

Yeaaaah. About that. I was having a real bad night last night. I went out for a 930pm ride. Just a 20 mile one or so. But cathartic. At least it wasn't on potholey roads. I'm just about the same today as yesterday, sore, but moving ok. Minimal meds.

I don't know how i would attach more counterweight other than standing on it. It's already a solid chunk of cast iron out to the whole periphery of the machine. Later machines stacked it on top of that, and the canopy went up from there. It would need a different counterweight. Or custom additions. I would need to cast it or find one. I don't want the footprint any bigger than it is.

I'm hoping to paint tonight after i get done cleaning my office. I spent a large chunk of the day shopping for more truck parts. Fittings for the power steering. The new pump, master cylinder, pulley and one hose have showed up, i'm waiting on the bracket and hose fittings. I'll have to fab a reservoir and one hose. Might add a cooler too, not sure. For reference, the Ford C2 pumps are junk, and are basically on the way out from day one. I'm swapping to a 6.0 PSD Ford C3 pump. Needs a van bracket and unobtanium pulley that i happened to find. Moving to hydroboost too. I have had that unit for years on the pallet rack. Came with a 4x4 ZF5 that i bought years ago. I may or may not move to rear disk at some point, but tired of the sketchy brakes and whiny steering pumps that came on these rigs. Just picked up aluminum old man running boards for my exact truck 15 miles from here too, from a guy that had 445,000 miles on his truck. Yeah, short of rust, that thing will outlast me with the right maintenance.

 

[86turbodsl]

Got the wall finish painted, and measured, 2 full sections of pallet rack will fit into the space painted. And the section boundaries fall right in line with the lift, so i can get to each section around the lift. It'll be sweet. I can also get another section in the space left, but it will take some finagling with the oil supply, stay tuned on that one. I'll have to move some things. But 3 more full height sections in that space with a min of 2 shelves should store quite a bit of booty. The bigger issue is the layout of the machine tools that go under the pallet racking. I'm not sure where all that ends up yet, but i have to find room for a lathe, bridgeport, surface grinder, vertical bandsaw, and a disc sander. it'll be tight i think.