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Never heard of "floorium" before, but I know what you mean...

I have the same problem with shop space in my garage in San Antonio - stuffed with toolboxes, tools, benches, 3' deep shelves with parts storage, and the worst offender - the 4-post lift. Got to the point that I could work on parts in the garage, but really not cars, so I was wrenching on stuff in the 100-degree temps out in the driveway.

Now I have A/C being piped in and I'm going to get rid of the lift as soon as I get home. I'll also reconfigure parts storage and hope to make my garage useable once again. The 4-post lift was really only good for storage; I didn't find it to be very good for working on stuff, except for perhaps a transmission swap. Plus, when I have a car on the lift, it blocks so much light from all the dadgum extra LED lights I had installed.

Anyway, my point is that if you can't pull a car into the garage, protected from the elements, and wrench on it, you may need to spend some quality time reorganizing or rethinking your layout.
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I hear you. My problem really revolves around having too many concurrent projects with no space for everything. IF everything was assembled, i'd probably be in really good shape. Unfortunately, i typically have multiple projects ongoing because i run into issues that sidelines me for a while until i figure out what to do.
 
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I've got everything now. both sector gears, a new pitman arm and both tie rod ends. I have to figure out how to repair the gouges on the box seal bore. Think i'm going to try tig brazing those spots and hit with die grinder and crocus cloth.
 
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How deep are the gouges? What type of seal goes in there? I thought you had mentioned an o-ring before....

I'm wondering if you could just smooth the edges of the gouges and skip the brazing.... let the o-ring fill it out and seal. maybe, maybe not...
 
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I went out today and got after it. I filed the sides of the gouges down, and then hit it with crocus cloth. What i ended up with was vastly smoother, and only slight depressions at a few spots. I threw the cover and o-ring on, and i think it will seal, but i'll augment with a bit of rtv on that one side. I'm also going to switch from 90w oil to corn head grease, and that should help. I was also able to file out the deformation on the side of the box that had the slipping spline arm, as it had worn the box down an 1/8 in or so, and mushroomed the seal bore all out. File and crocus cloth seems ok now.

I have the box all cleaned up in the parts washer, i'll wait for it to drain down and get everything cleaned up for assembly.
 
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I went out today and got after it. I filed the sides of the gouges down, and then hit it with crocus cloth. What i ended up with was vastly smoother, and only slight depressions at a few spots. I threw the cover and o-ring on, and i think it will seal, but i'll augment with a bit of rtv on that one side. I'm also going to switch from 90w oil to corn head grease, and that should help. I was also able to file out the deformation on the side of the box that had the slipping spline arm, as it had worn the box down an 1/8 in or so, and mushroomed the seal bore all out. File and crocus cloth seems ok now.

I have the box all cleaned up in the parts washer, i'll wait for it to drain down and get everything cleaned up for assembly.
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What is this corn head grease that you speak of? That's a new one for me.
 
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I'm assuming that's the farmer speak for gease that is used on a combine header that harvests corn... I.e. for greasing the gears, sprockets, chains, etc...

Therefore corn head grease.......

Regardless, I think your plan for keeping it simple on this steering gear is good.
 
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Yeah, #0 grease. It's used on corn heads for combines. It's semi-liquid at room temp. That's the normal fix for these saginaw gearboxes as they age and leak a lot. Sadly, there's no local places that have it. I had to order. So MORE delays. Yippee.
 
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My 1950 Oliver crawler tractor uses corn head grease on the roller's bearings for the tracks. Fortunately, my local Runnings (farm & fleet) store carries that grease.

I think you took the right path of getting it smoothed out, using the 0-ring and some RTV and getting it done. Even if it leaks a little, having that forklift working for the winter will be worth it. Sometime good enough is just enough, perfect isn't needed all of the time!
 
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Seals finally showed up. I NEED that gearbox done and the bales moved. We have a MAJOR storm coming in here on Thursday, and i need the chains on the tractor. As usual, i'm going to be scrambling. I'm so tired of that.
 
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Watching Scott wrestle with a ZF5 while i eat lunch.

I have been fighting the forklift steering gear for a couple days. Finally did get the seals installed, the gears are new and don't mesh very well. I'm out of time with the storm moving in, and have bales sitting on my tractor chains, so i'm going to punt and try something different. I'll take some photos.
 
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Watching Scott wrestle with a ZF5 while i eat lunch.

I have been fighting the forklift steering gear for a couple days. Finally did get the seals installed, the gears are new and don't mesh very well. I'm out of time with the storm moving in, and have bales sitting on my tractor chains, so i'm going to punt and try something different. I'll take some photos.
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Can you hook a chain a round the bale and drag it off your chains? Or pull the chains from under the bales with your tractor?

I am trying to get a new substation commissioned before the storm gets here. Between that and the flu last week I haven't got any home projects done.
 
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Watching Scott wrestle with a ZF5 while i eat lunch.
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One hell of a wrasslin' match, but I think I won!

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I have been fighting the forklift steering gear for a couple days. Finally did get the seals installed, the gears are new and don't mesh very well. I'm out of time with the storm moving in, and have bales sitting on my tractor chains, so i'm going to punt and try something different. I'll take some photos.
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Damn.
 
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So since i had to punt on the forklift, and it was really about getting the snow chains out from under the bales, which i like a dummy forgot were under the bales until i needed them, since i was running around in the rain this spring and wanted them off the tractor since they make for a bumpy ride, i pulled them off in the machine shed near the edge of the grass. Then forgot about them all summer. They grew into the ground. A VERY good thing is that they weren't under the bunk of steel and wood in the shed. There is NO way the tractor loader would move that. That's a hand unload deal, since the 5000lb forklift barely will lift it.
Since i need the bales moved, and still needed to keep them dry, i rigged up a strap and chain.
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The chains are under those two big stacks.

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I uncovered.

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Hooked up the chain.

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And yanked.

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At this point, i could use the bale spear and put one in the horse barn and 3 in the machine shed. Downside is i now have NOWHERE to put any tractor or forklift.

But i was able to fish the chains out of the dirt, hose them off, and get them on the tractor. Plow reinstalled, and tractor parked by the house, close enough to plug in. I think we're ready for the storm for now.

Got 20 gals of gas, full cars, kerosene and firewood on hand. If power goes out, we might struggle a bit to keep the little genset going, but we're good for a while probably. We won't freeze nor starve.
 
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Merry Christmas Eve gents! We got somewhere around 6" of snow here, saw temps down to -2F. The lakes moderate the temps a bit. Still very windy here. Michigan state police asked everyone to stay off I-94 from the state line to Battle Creek. That's 25 miles from here. Had the woodstove and kerosene heater running for over a day now.

The shop is staying at 60F, although i have not gone out there to work. My daughter's car is in there right now for brake work. Our only running AWD car at the moment.

I took the wife to work yesterday, on the way to pick her up around 5pm, i was running down the side road near I94, overtaking them at 40mph. It was a 2-track with a car with flashers on, and about a half dozen cars behind them, they were doing about 30mph. I'm choosing to stay home.

Lots of stuff cancelled around here. My mom is having dinner at her place tomorrow, she and my sister are WAY closer to Detroit, and they almost always don't get the snow and ice we do. We're far enough west to get hit with lake effect snow on windy days. So they are pressuring me to come out. They don't like me telling them "I'll evaluate the roads and let you know"
 
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Stay warm tonight! Gonna be 9 degrees in Alabama, much colder up there I'm sure. I begrudge wood except in times like these, the reliability is unbeatable.
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Brrr. That's cold for that far south. People from the north just don't get how bad snow and cold is for southerners. Bro is in DFW, that city shuts down completely with a little snow. Slicker than greased snot on the roads.
 
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Brrr. That's cold for that far south. People from the north just don't get how bad snow and cold is for southerners. Bro is in DFW, that city shuts down completely with a little snow. Slicker than greased snot on the roads.
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It's unusual for sure. We've had cold for longer in the past but that's a very low temp for this time of year, I know my folks' ponds have iced up to about 10" in the past, but not lately. It hit about 5 degrees yesterday for most, 0 for my folks who live on a mountain. Houses still had heat from the day prior so the utilities were handling it. Today, though warmer this morning at ~10-15, we had rolling blackouts to help the grid. They were short, didn't bother me a bit. Should be good from here on out. Well done to utilites, that was well handled.

I only have summer tires on my car since cold is so rare. They weren't happy but they lived. :)
 
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Merry Christmas -86 and readers!

Hopefully you received the gift of no vehicle breaks and/or you had parts arriving for the projects!

We finally got a break from all the gusty winds on Thursday Friday and Saturday. We had no snow here in York.

Happy holidays!
 
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Merry Christmas to all!

Shop / boiler update: 2 days of mostly not running. I would get it fired up, then go in the house and wait, and it would just fail or flame out. finally tracked it down to plugged inlet screen on oil pump. Cleaned that, and went inside for the night last night, woke up to no heat again. I got it going again this morning and it's still running after a cleaning mid-day. Shop temp is back up to about 50-51. I'm just wearing a jacket while i work on a brake job for the daughter's audi. In other news, I started the tractor on Christmas day to clear the driveway to go to mom's. I cleaned the garage pad, then made a pass down the driveway to the road. At the road i turned around and noticed a lot of smoke. And smell. Coolant was blowing out all over. I ran it back to the house, and shutdown, and it was hissing and blowing steam all over. I'm not sure what happened yet. the water pump and lower coolant hose is new, along with the radiator recored. It's got an old upper hose, but this is not a pressurized system and it heated up FAST. I'm not seeing a milkshake in the oil, so my best guess is either a stuck thermostat, or worse. I got a cylinder head gasket set on order, and i've got to finish the audi brake job and get it out of the shop before i can get it in there and pull it apart. I'm praying for a split hose or thermostat. Heads are available, but not real cheap. AND i should be working on the other Audi, NOT additional breakdowns!!! Grrr.

On the plus side, i got the driveway cleaned enough to get out, and we have warm weather hitting thursday. So we should be ok this week. I'm really getting tired of surprise vehicle work....
 
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Any word on the tractor coolant issues?

Can you start it up from cold and watch it carefully to see where the coolant is coming from? Diagnosis before assuming the worst?

I've been watching "Vice Grip Garage" on YouTube and that guy is pretty calm with dealing with challenges! Of course, he's probably doing well now with all of his video production over the last few years!
 
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I've been watching "Vice Grip Garage" on YouTube and that guy is pretty calm with dealing with challenges! Of course, he's probably doing well now with all of his video production over the last few years!
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Derek is awesome, but lately his videos have gotten really long - over an hour. Still great content, but I sure wish they were shorter.
 
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Nothing on the tractor yet. Still working on the daughter's audi. i got the caliper back on, but one of the steel lines was mangled beyond saving, i had to order some line and fittings. And an inline crimper. Not the fancy hydraulic one, but one that will work in a cramped space. It showed up last night, i'm heading out to do the job now. Then bleed and it's out of the shop. While it's warm, i will bring the tractor in for a looksee.

My wife's favorite youtube dude is Derek. True story. She's watching him right now.
 
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