a question for hvac installers

[klhitman]

how much do you all charge for a commercial install? per ton.

i have a 15 ton unit to set on a roof with a new curb adapter and was wondering what a good rate would be.

 

[klhitman]

Pricing per ton is the worst thing you can do.

how would you do the pricing?

 

[alecmcmahon]

Agreed, If somebody said he charged a price per ton i'd ask him to promptly leave.

If considering a new installation, How much more actual work is it to install a 3 ton over a 2 ton AC?

None.

Same amount of work, different unit.


Figure out what your time is worth, estimate how long the job will take. Do the math.

 

[klhitman]

the guy that is doing it asked me to help on the electrical side of the job and he was trying to come up with a flat price. that is what the costumer would pay. all we have to do is unhook the old unit, get a crane and take it off the roof, install the new curb adapter and install the new unit and hook all the connection back up.

i was trying to get is a ball park figure as what to charge for all. and i thought going by the ton might be helpful.

 

[jbarbrey]

I would figure you and a helper 8-10 hrs if all you are doing is providing the labor. Plus the cost of the crane ( I am sure he has a minimum 4hrs is standard here) and you are going to have have some material cost in that bid also. Good luck.

 

[klhitman]

I would figure you and a helper 8-10 hrs if all you are doing is providing the labor. Plus the cost of the crane ( I am sure he has a minimum 4hrs is standard here) and you are going to have have some material cost in that bid also. Good luck.

i am the helper on this one with another guy so there will be 3 of use. i dont know if the main guy has all the ducks in a row but he said he would pay me ** amount for 8 hours of work and i couldn't refuse the ** amount. i was just fishing around to see how much money that he was gonna make.

it doesn't bother me if he makes $$$$$$ on the job. but he works with me at our main job and was talking one day about what he should charge for the install.

i don't do side work myself but i do appreciate your all comments

 

[Milton Shaw]

One of the Home Depot's here had to change out their rooftop units and could not find a crane big enough to reach to the center of their building with that weight. They had to use helicopters to lift the units and install them. That was an expensive weekend job for them. Don't have any idea what it cost but it was a bundle I am sure.

 

[truckman5000]

It all depends wich area of the country, ect.
But we would get 1,600 a day for two guys for overtime. And charge 2 days. For start up, gas, elec. another sertain amount if it was a bid, or emergency.
But if emergency another day, if overtime 1,600..
Plus experence, Profit..a great day, but insurence and licenses you need to keep current is why you get the money and charge that.
A side thing is alittle different. And a crane for the day can be 1k..

 

[mrobins297aaa]

I saw the mention of using a helicopter and it made me think of this job in the pic. This was 1992+- we were setting roof top units at the Chrysler Jefferson North plant they were 4 or 5 sections and the section in the pic was the coil section (chilled water and hot water coils) 15,000 lbs.
The chopper in the pic is the biggest bad boy on the block, the Erickson Air Crane sikorshy S 64 20,000 lbs capacity. He was 30K just to show up and so much a lift after that, needless to say you plan for a day like that well in advance everything that goes on that roof better fit the curbs, in this case they were setting on platform steel. You don't want to make that call to your boss that something isn't working out right cause there ain't no bringing him back at that cost. I've worked with a lot of choppers setting HVAC equipment over the years but this guy when he changes the pitch on those rotors to get the lift he needs to lift those heavy loads .......man you better have your feet planted firmly on the ground or your going away.......lol