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A quick note about TGJ and the future...

bdk1976

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So what exactly is so much better about it? Just curious as I find nothing (visually or functionally) over on the HAMB that is any better than what we have here.
 
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So what exactly is so much better about it? Just curious as I find nothing (visually or functionally) over on the HAMB that is any better than what we have here.

Just a few:

1. Way cleaner interface
2. Image uploads are way easier... and supports bigger files.
3. Way easier on the servers from a load perspective.
4. spam detection and removal is better
5. moderation is less time consuming
6. from a social perspective, you can tag folks
7. notifications are really really good... and much improved over VB
8. Tapatalk still *****, but it works better with XF in my opinion

And I'm sure there are a lot more that I'm forgetting.
 

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So what exactly is so much better about it? Just curious as I find nothing (visually or functionally) over on the HAMB that is any better than what we have here.

Here's one small feature that I love on Xenforo:

Right now when you look at a forum, if you click on a title, it takes you to that thread, post #1. You have to click on the little icon to the left of the title to go to the latest post. Xenforo has a setting where clicking on the title takes you to the first unread post. Amazingly handy!

There are dozens & dozens of small improvements like that. Some of them standard, some have to be set (or added) by the site operator.

Replying is much better. The quote process is simpler, drafts are saved, handling attachments a million times better.
 

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I am not a lover of changes, I admit. I do welcome the changes here, even tho I've been using vb for many years on forums.
Change usually is good in the end . I just hope the transition is smooth for Ryan's , the mod's and users sake!
 

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One of the forums I am on converted to Xenforo 8-10 months ago. They are still trying to get everything working correctly again. Some of the 'sponsors' are not happy about the limited size of the avatars. In general I don't like the new format/layout and I still have not figured out how to get threads I have read to consistently be marked as read. Hopefully the conversion here will go smoother.
 

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Really looking forward to that new alliance tag design. The most recent one was already pretty cool. Thanks for the hard work Ryan keeping up our home away from home.
 

Bryan Burns

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Thanks for all your hard work Ryan. This forum kicks *** and it's my most used website. I love the mix of people on this site and I've learned a lot from them.

Last weekend when the site was down for the upgrade I learned how I much I depend on it. Keep up the great work.
 

tarmy

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Thank you for working hard to make this a great site...I come every day...

I have learned and shared alot over the years...thanks again. :rocker::bowdown:
 

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I have really enjoyed reading and posting on TGJ over the years and can honestly say there is not much you could do to scare me away.

Change is good and this change will be welcomed.

Thank you owner, admins and mods.
 

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Well as a large, green ogre with an attitude problem once said, "change is good, Donkey". And who knows, that could be the case here. I definitely would be interested in a few new sub forums (compressed air, as previously mentioned, and I know there has been calling for a dedicated storage/organization sub section, which I think would be more than amazing, more than fantastic . [emoji23]

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with, Ryan.

Cheers.

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dr_clyde

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I understand why you are making the change. I can't say as I like the change much, but I'll deal with it. I really like this community, and intend to stay.

FWIW, I find the HAMB diffucult to read and cluttered. I really, really like the clean, simple interface here.

If I could have 1 request, it would be that there be a "forum jump" at the BOTTOM of the page. Not a "top" link.

That is my favorite user interface feature, and I notice its not on the HAMB.

Either way, thanks for all that you guys do to keep this place up and running.
 

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Do your thing. Most of the forums i have loved have turned into ghost towns and migrated over to Facebook groups. I HATE FACEBOOK GROUPS. It's like a step 30 years backwards.

Anyway.... Glad TGJ exists. I'll figure out whatever you do. Tech is gonna tech, it's the nature of the beast!
 
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Do your thing. Most of the forums i have loved have turned into ghost towns and migrated over to Facebook groups. I HATE FACEBOOK GROUPS. It's like a step 30 years backwards.

Anyway.... Glad TGJ exists. I'll figure out whatever you do. Tech is gonna tech, it's the nature of the beast!

I don't even have a facebook account, so...

Forums are the wave of the past. And I've always enjoyed playing with old ****. :)
 

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I don't even have a facebook account, so...

Forums are the wave of the past. And I've always enjoyed playing with old ****. :)

Or....'taking old **** and making it as good as new'......

One of the reasons I'll never get rid of my jeep
 

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My problem with facebook groups is generally they are harder to find.

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I understand why you are making the change. I can't say as I like the change much, but I'll deal with it. I really like this community, and intend to stay.

FWIW, I find the HAMB diffucult to read and cluttered. I really, really like the clean, simple interface here.

If I could have 1 request, it would be that there be a "forum jump" at the BOTTOM of the page. Not a "top" link.

That is my favorite user interface feature, and I notice its not on the HAMB.

Either way, thanks for all that you guys do to keep this place up and running.


I'm not a HAMB member but I understand (atleast I think I do) what you mean by the "forum jump" and I use it quite a bit when I stop by GJ just for a few minutes.

Go back to HAMB, (link below) scroll to the bottom of the page, click on the 3 "gray bars" and tell us if that is what you are referring to. There's also one at the top of the page.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/forums/the-hokey-***-message-board.5/
 

fartymarty

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My only problem with this forum Ryan, is that to get all the wonderful info and help it provides, you have to be on it 24/7/365.

And even then, so much slips by.

Yeah, I have to agree, the site is actually almost too popular. I'll post something up and quickly go to "New Posts" and it will have already dropped to #3 or lower. :)

I was looking through some of the other forums that use xenFORO which I found somewhat listed here: https://xenforo.com/community/forums/forum-showcase-and-critiques.53/

Ryan, Is there any existing xenFORO forum that you think might closely resemble what you have in mind for this one. Of course I mean in appearance and functionality not content...some of those I saw there I couldn't get away from fast enough..but most looked OK in appearance and usability. Some were already dead, that is broken links that went nowhere, but just because someone makes a forum doesn't mean anyone will show up. Not something that will happen here I'm sure.:thumbup:

Even though I have a widescreen monitor (as do most I suspect), I do like the narrow centered look of what we have now. That is spreading things out just to be spreading them out and filling the screen serves no purpose other than to make my head go back and forth. H.A.M.B. is good in that respect, but I prefer the gray field behind the text here, it's easier on my eyes than the stark white over at H.A.M.B.


...regardless..thanks for all you do and I'm glad you aren't going to TAPATALK as your main forum software as did the DRRiders forum Yuk!
 

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Have a look at Ryan's other forum the HAMB as it is on the new format and has been for some time.

FWIW, and this is only my opinion, that is not an attractive forum. It doesn't flow well, and I think I would have a very hard time getting used to it.

Here's the one I've mentioned before, I think a great example of Xenforo:

Front page:
https://www.tivocommunity.com/community/index.php

Typical forum:
https://www.tivocommunity.com/community/index.php?forums/now-playing-tv-show-talk.31/
 

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I'm not a HAMB member but I understand (atleast I think I do) what you mean by the "forum jump" and I use it quite a bit when I stop by GJ just for a few minutes.

Go back to HAMB, (link below) scroll to the bottom of the page, click on the 3 "gray bars" and tell us if that is what you are referring to. There's also one at the top of the page.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/forums/the-hokey-***-message-board.5/

For the record... Those three gray bars... in the tech world ... is a "HAMBURGER"... no relation to HAMB as in the website... not kidding... it really is a "HAMBURGER icon" or "BURGER icon" for short.
 

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FWIW, and this is only my opinion, that is not an attractive forum. It doesn't flow well, and I think I would have a very hard time getting used to it.

Here's the one I've mentioned before, I think a great example of Xenforo:

Front page:
https://www.tivocommunity.com/community/index.php

Typical forum:
https://www.tivocommunity.com/community/index.php?forums/now-playing-tv-show-talk.31/

oh. :rolleyes2




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...well at least it isn't Tapatalk based.

:scared: Do Not Panic. Once Ryan has set up and made the change I am sure all will be good. Just be patient and take your time and you will find it is a big improvement.
 

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so, will this transition also feature changes to the Hot Deals section? that discussion has died down, and this seems like a good opportunity to make whatever changes have been decided on.
 

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I am, well used to be, a frequent poster.

If my present situation permitted, I would hang on this board every day for hours. I have enjoyed your company every time I log in.

Everybody, keep up the good work here.

Thanks for allowing me to be a member.
 

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FWIW, and this is only my opinion, that is not an attractive forum. It doesn't flow well, and I think I would have a very hard time getting used to it.
I agree. Not space-efficient, too many different fonts, does not flow at all. The Tivo forum seems nice.
 

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Thanks for the forum!!!

The breadth of technical knowledge here at GJ is well beyond anything else I've ever found on the internet. (long on "meat", short on "fluff")

Even the non garage/free parking discussions are pretty amazing.
 

fartymarty

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It is if you use the app.

Yes, I have the app and that's fine for a phone, but I refer to the main software for the whole forum, they make that too.

:scared: Do Not Panic. Once Ryan has set up and made the change I am sure all will be good. Just be patient and take your time and you will find it is a big improvement.

Thanks! I appreciate the morale boost. :thumbup:
I feel better about it all today. :fingersx:

I'm all down for the change if it helps fix the photo issue.
Well that seems unlikely since its a photobucket issue.

I really need to fix my thread
I just scanned through your thread and it's fine (Ok, truth be told I only skimmed the odd numbered pages) I'm fairly certain I saw all of your photos. Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse here, but for those that use Firefox and Chrome, there are fixes for the photo issue. Personally I'd prefer you to just keep working in your garage and posting here :drool: instead of wasting time fixing your thread. Maybe when photobucket determines away to mess with the fixes and basically makes their site unusable then you can invest all that time on it.
 

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I didn't read all 6 pages of this post, but-

Good job Ryan. I look forward to XenForo. I am on several forums that have made the switch, and I personally like it better.
 

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I'm with several others here in saying XenForo does not look like a good platform. vBulletin has been the top BB software for a long time for a reason. GJ could use a freshening up and some of the new features in vb though, mentions and likes are pretty common on most boards now and are really helpful.

Might be a bit bias, but interesting to see a comparison:
https://itxdesign.com/vbulletin-vs-xenforo-vs-ipb/
 
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I'm with several others here in saying XenForo does not look like a good platform. vBulletin has been the top BB software for a long time for a reason. GJ could use a freshening up and some of the new features in vb though, mentions and likes are pretty common on most boards now and are really helpful.

Might be a bit bias, but interesting to see a comparison:
https://itxdesign.com/vbulletin-vs-xenforo-vs-ipb/

Funny. That site is owned by VB... Typical shady **** from them too.

And no VB is very much not “top BB software.” It hasn’t been since 3.8.
 
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