A reason to get a few tools!? rustic kitchen update.

[bdymnjm]

My wife and I have wanted to add a wood wall treatment to one wall. We also discussed making a simple sink base and cabinets from this same wood. I am trying to convince her the floor might look good with it too. Our place is supposed to be a repurposed barn circa 1875. Thats the story she tells me, moved to current foundation around 1930 with reclaimed stuff from a fire damaged house next door. We got some inspiration from Pinterest. I will try to post pictures. I need some pointers for joining the boards for doors and countertop edge to edge. What glue? What method (dowels or buscuits)? We have a pile of rough cut local hardwood given to us by the guy who cut some trees on our property line. Its been stacked and drying for years.

 

[mwalsh9152]

I LOVE the reclaimed wood on those cabinets! That is beautiful. Wife and I have been looking for inspiration for a new kitchen in an addition we are hoping to build this fall. I thought we had too much wood already, but that proves otherwise.

 

[MoonRise]

Doors, whether cabinet doors or room doors, are usually made with the 'frame' joined with some sort of mortise and tenon joint. Often a more specific variant called a "cope and stick joint". Extra corner strength for the rail-to-stile connection can be added with either a little longer tenon (and mating mortise) instead of the typical stub tenon from a cope-and-stick joint or by adding a "floating tenon" (sometimes called a "domino").

Biscuits can work well to rather quickly add a little reinforcement to edge-to-edge joints, but they mostly help with locating the pieces so that they don't shift around (too much) as you glue and clamp things up. A bit faster and easier to make biscuit joints in a 'home' shop than to do full tongue-and-groove edge joints. But sometimes you might still want/need to make full-up tongue-and-groove joints. Hardwood flooring is usually done with tongue-and-groove joints between the adjacent (edge AND end) planks/boards.

A LOT of 'modern' stuff is joined with pocket screws. They can work and are quick and strong, but they ARE visible from the 'back' side where the pockets are cut. Usually NOT considered a 'fine' woodworking or furniture technique.

Glue? Use "wood glue". TiteBond wood glue is a go-to for gluing wood together. Pick the right one for the task. There are several choices. Regular, water resistant, water proof, liquid hide glue, etc.

Wooden countertops? You should use at least the water-resistant wood glue. I'd use the 'water proof' TiteBond wood glue.

Be aware of and allow for wood movement from seasonal temperature and humidity variations.

 

[dcg9381]

Thats beautiful!

 

[yeldogt]

The 3rd picture looks like commercial hickory

I have done two really "rustic" projects -- one was a log cabin kit and the other was a 1800 bank barn conversion. The log cabin was all new .. mostly pine -- that we stained trying to look old. It came out very nice .. but it never looked "old"

The barn was a different story -- it was old. We deconstructed parts of one side of the interior to construct the other that was going to be partitioned living space. I also had the floor boards from another barn that looked like the top in the second photo. We made shelves, counters, doors .... even a dinning table out of it. It's a really cool look.

The key is to lay out the wood and remember the stuff with the most defects is the most interesting. It's all simple construction ... don't try to be too tight with the gaps ... but keep the gaps equal across the project.

Get ready if you have to buy any of it .... years ago they could not give it away ... today it is really expensive

 

[Bert_]

IMO inset doors are pretty much a requirement if you want that vintage.

 

[bdymnjm]

Walsh

I was concerned with wood on wall, floor, cabinets also but it is nice look. I don't have reclaimed just rough lumber so I will need to stain and maybe do something to give it some character.

Moonrise,

I thank you for the glue advise. I will look into the pocket screws for my amature work it might help. I am doing this research because although I have made simple boxes and shelves I know nothing about tenons and such. I will keep the humidity in mind since now its low and in the summer we get awful humidity.

Yeldogt,

My brother converted a hillside barn into a place to play his music and some performances. The interior is kinda over finished but he has it all insulated. I will post some pictures from his Facebook. I have a good supply of this rough board, no pricy reclaimed tho.

Bert,

I didn't realize I chose pictures of various style of cabinets. I had to lookup inset to learn. Thanks for the reply. More choices and ideas but I suppose overlay would be easier for a first attemp.

Jim

 

[bdymnjm]

My brother's remodeled barn

 

[nadogail]

Any project is an excuse to buy a new tool.

In the OP's case I recommend an oscillating multi-tool.

 

[gnpenning]

If hair is involved use gorilla glue......

You have some good information on types of joinery for the cabinets. You may want to check with local cabinet makers and see if you can supply your own wood. Expect them to be very busy right now.

If you plan on doing a wainscoting or more on the walls with your wood, either paint the area behind where the wood will go with a dark color or put tar paper on the wall. You don't want white showing up in your gaps. Imperfections between the boards will be a non issue.

 

[66Caprice]

If hair is involved use gorilla glue......

Let's not forget the RED SOLO CUP as well!!!!

 

[bdymnjm]

Nadogail,

Maybe its a joke? What good is that tool, seriously idk?

Gnp,

Its funny my wife loves that log cabin look with the filler between the boards. I'm with you dark on background and limited gap. Hair and glue sounds messy. I think I can get it done, not farming it out.

66,

You think its redneck? I've been called that. Red solo cup , I fill you up... But usually its beer and from the can or bottle.

Jim

 

[bdymnjm]

So you all know what I do have to work with. 2 table saws, jointer planer, router and bits, router table with a router, jigsaw, 2 circular saws, squares, levels, drills, c clamps, pipe clamps, chop saw. Plenty of air tools for sanding and grinding, since I do autobody. I have a biscuit tool to borrow and see if I like that.

What I was thinking of adding is a thickness planer. Any other suggestions for this project?

Jim

 

[WildernessCompound]

OP, that is a really great looking room. Well done.

 

[bdymnjm]

OP, that is a really great looking room. Well done.

I wish..Those are from Pintrest and I hope to do a nice job. Tbd lol.

 

[66Caprice]

66,

You think its redneck? I've been called that. Red solo cup , I fill you up... But usually its beer and from the can or bottle.

Jim[/QUOTE]

No I was quoting gnpenning on his remark about the hair and gorilla glue! If you have not watched the video about the woman who used gorilla glue to treat her hair because she ran out of her regular hair products you are really missing out!!
https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...dd7d8c183ece6c9544259a40fa8b5246&action=click

I hope that link works for you! It's freakin hilarious!!! And so that brings me to my reply about the solo cup! Another very bright person did not believe her about the glue and tried it with a solo cup......

https://americanpeoplenews.com/worl...y-as-man-gets-red-solo-cup-stuck-to-his-face/

As far as you're ideas on the kitchen makeover. I absolutly love the idea! The first picture is a awesome design!

 

[bdymnjm]

66,

The links worked , lol, not funny to them but I am sure good stories to tell their Grandkids. That is if they survive stupidity. I never saw them. Thanks

Jim

 

[yeldogt]

The key is simple .... you don't need complex joinery. That's not how things were done.

Your brothers barn is great looking.

It's all overlay .. you can't take that old stuff and do inset ... it has to be milled too mush and the whole look is lost

Here are some old shots of the barn from about 10+ years ago .... we left almost 8 years ago. it was done in the late 80's .. the other side is an office (the big open room)

 

[bdymnjm]

The key is simple .... you don't need complex joinery. That's not how things were done.

Your brothers barn is great looking.

It's all overlay .. you can't take that old stuff and do inset ... it has to be milled too mush and the whole look is lost

Here are some old shots of the barn from about 10+ years ago .... we left almost 8 years ago. it was done in the late 80's .. the other side is an office (the big open room)

That is really nice, is one wall mostly glass?

 

[bdymnjm]

I looked at the kreg pocket screw tools. What should I go for? Many styles. I can use it on future projects. I do some small pallet projects and maybe garage cabinets or shelves. What is going to work for a thickness planer? Dewalt?

Jim