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A rookies take on Rustoleum...

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A rookies take on Rustoleum... Practical advice!

I just put a Rustoleum Epoxy Shield floor down. I used the water based kit. My garage is an 525 sq ft attached two car Garage. I use it to store two cars (94 modified Corvette and a BMW 540i.) I do light wrenching and no welding or cutting.

I chose the water based epoxy because a friend had used it and it was within my budget and should serve my purpose for the next 2-5 years.

Here is what I learned over the last two weeks.

1.Prep, prep, and more prep. Clean it rinse it and do this until you feel confident it is clean. I started working on grease and oil stains weeks in advance. After cleaning use a squeegie and a wet/dry vac to remove excess water to speed drying.

2. Use a cordless power drill and the stirring bit attachment you buy at Lowe's or Home Depot. Mix the epoxy well.

3. You have a little bit more time than you think after mixing so take the proper time to cut in around the edges...

4. Carefully consider the use of the Rustoleum antii-slip. If you use the anti-slip you will lose some shine on the floor. This additive kind of ruined the look of my floor. The anti-slip tended to settle into the bottom of my roller pan. If the epoxy level got low in the pan more of the anti-slip grit got picked up and putdown on the floor and it shows up in those particular areas. I have a streaked appearance in my floor when the sunlight hits it from an angle. In those areas with high concentrations of anti-slip the surface appears dull. I believe that you can get by on 1/2 to 1/4 of the recommended amount of anti-slip. You may want to stop every few minutes and stir up the epoxy in the roller pan to keep the anti-slip suspended in the mix.

5. It you want the floor to look anything close to the marketing photos you see in the Rustoleum adds count on putting down a second coat. I used almost exactly two kits on my 525 sq foot initial application. I used just a hair over a gallon on the second coat with a very liberal application. You may want to have a second kit handy but you may not need it.


6. On the second coat, plan on putting it down within 24 hours of the first. If you don't the first coat of epoxy will harden and the second coat will not bind to it. I did not have time to apply the second coat. I had to work on mine the following weekend and I had to sand it. I rented a floor sander and needed one sheet of 60 grit to sand it down. It took very little time with the right tool. The big sander will not get into the corners so rent or buy a hand sander as well.

7. My wife is has a great sense of smell. She never complained about the smell of the water based epoxy. I was very surprised. This is a big plus on a attached garage and if you are married.

I know I am a rookie at this but this is my experience and I placed at least a dozen calls to the Rustoleum support line and I used to earn college money working for a commercial painting company so I understand some of the basics.

Good luck to those starting their projects. I am going to the garage to admire my floor. :thumbup:
 
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Re: A rookies take on Rustoleum... Practical advice!

Can you walk on your floor after 24 hours? Do i need specials shoes or something?

Please post pics.

I am interested in doing the same thing.
 

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Re: A rookies take on Rustoleum... Practical advice!

Can you walk on your floor after 24 hours? Do i need specials shoes or something?

Please post pics.

I am interested in doing the same thing.

I did the pro grade - it can be walked on in 24 hours and pretty much has to be to get the second coat on in the recommended window.

Just wear your regular street shoes (ones that you are ready to throw away because they will get covered with roller spatter).
 
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Re: A rookies take on Rustoleum... Practical advice!

Can you walk on your floor after 24 hours? Do i need specials shoes or something?

Please post pics.

I am interested in doing the same thing.

You apply it in 4' by 4' sections and back out of the garage. You can walk on it in a little less than 24 hours. I am preparing to put down a Rustoleum clear coat. I ordered it through the local Ace Hardware. Follow the instructions and you will be fine.

I also just finished painting the walls to a Ace Hardware Sensations Dover Gray "washable paint". Seems to be tough stuff now that it has dried. My walls were a tan color. The gray floors gave the walls a pinkish tint. Had to paint them ... So far my budget looks lie this:

4 x Rustoleum Epoxy kits $54 x 4 $216
1 X Rustoleum Clear Coat $94.
3 gallons of paint $90
Supplies $25
New light fixture $28
New gasket for garage door $45
New keypad to open G-door $45
Rental for Mobile attic $160

Geez $705 Looks good though!
 
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I put down the Rustoleum clear coat yesterday... Very high gloss. Looks great to me. The Rustoleum tech line claims it is the most durable of their products. They highly recommend it. Late this afternoon I start to move my stuff out of the Mobile attic and into my garage... Cool! I am done, for now. Next will be a set of Gladiator cabinets....:bounce:
 

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Hey good deal. I just finished my floor and are looking for cabinets too, I hear allot of good about the Lista brand. I'm going to check in the garage threads for more info. Can you post a shot of your floor? I'd love to see it with the clear on. I didn't know Rustolium made a clear.
Rick
 
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Just figured out how to post pictures! 8 months and still looks great. :thumbup:

Enjoy!

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Hope this inspires someone!
 

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Looks great.I see a lot of members posting negative comments about water based coatings and then see a result such as yours,so I think that the proper prep work is the key to a great results.
Paul
 

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Looks very nice and you did a great job also. We did the same thing to my parents garage while we were on vacation in Hawaii and it turned out good but started peeling in about 3 months. I hope you don't get the same results that we had.
 

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Looks great.I see a lot of members posting negative comments about water based coatings and then see a result such as yours,so I think that the proper prep work is the key to a great results.
Paul

Not me. I have been beating up the water based stuff for 4 years now and other than gouges that extend well into the concrete from dropping heavy stuff it is fine. It seems to be less sensitive to weld burns then the thick stuff. I think the thin coating lets the heat sink into the concrete under it without leaving a ********* crater. And as it s not even close as expensive I am not all bent up and worried about the floor and can actually get stuff done. ;)
 

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I've had it on my floor for 5 years now, with welding/grinding/torching/dragging steel, etc. No problems with it, in fact, I don't think there's one chip in the entire garage. It's yellowed a bit from where oil has sat for a long time, but that's it.

I have a 20x24 garage, spent 13 hours, 6 gallons of purple power, 2 boxes of tri-sodium-phosphate, and muriatic acid. It's a 58 year old concrete floor that was covered with grease stains, too.

I put on one layer, scattered some light sand, then did a second heavier layer. I love it. I can still sweep/mop it with no problems, but don't bust my **** if it's oily, wet, etc.
 
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