Between 705 & 1200 SQ/FT a simple shop

[gtcs]

These are pics of my current 2 car 'sorta' attached. It shares a wall with the house but you can't get there from here.

This is my third garage reno, the other two at my previous residence. The problem is, I'm never going to finish it... I am now building a 30x40 in the backyard.

 

[gtcs]

Here's where the new building is going. I have to apologize for all the random **** in my lawn...

 

[drivesitfar]

GTCS: garages are always a work in progress just as the guys that have the 40 x 120's or the member with the single 10 x 16 like me. good luck and hope you get it closer.

cheers

 

[gtcs]

Here is the reason why...

I have to tear down this old shed to get the new building here. Seems easy enough right?

 

[drivesitfar]

GT: I saw one member offer up his shed like that on Craigslist in the FREE section and he had several takers to take it down and haul it away. if you just want it gone that would be my first choice. take out the stuff you want to keep before you take pictures for Craigs ad if you go that method.

otherwise it shouldn't take long and some of the metal might be usable on a project if you keep it.

good luck

 

[gtcs]

So, here's some backstory:

The house we live in now was my great grandparents home. This where Sunday dinners and family events were held. Its where we came to visit when we lived in other states and cities. Its where we came back to when those adventures came to an end.

Quite simply its 'home'. I always wanted a house like this, a simple ranch style, with a large yard in a quiet neighborhood in town. So when THIS one came up for sale and the bank was silly enough to give me the money... well, welcome home!

Now to the more tragic issue. That damn little green shack. That was my great grandfathers shop, and where my uncle, and later myself learned to hammer and wrench. I need to tear it down, but I am thinking about disassembling it and using the parts to build my garden shed for the mowers.

Is it worth the effort? Or am I being overly sentimental?

 

[James-W]

Now to the more tragic issue. That damn little green shack. That was my great grandfathers shop, and where my uncle, and later myself learned to hammer and wrench. I need to tear it down, but I am thinking about disassembling it and using the parts to build my garden shed for the mowers.

Is it worth the effort? Or am I being overly sentimental?

How good of condition is the little green shack in? If it is in really bad condition, then I would say tear it down because it isn't worth screwing around with. On the other hand, if at least parts of it can be salvaged, then you might at least be able to use some things from it and that may satisfy your sentimental side.

A friend of mine tore down the barn that was on the farm he was raised on. He took some of the barn boards that were in fairly good condition and used them in the basement of his house. He felt pretty good about that, every time he saw the barn boards he remembered the good times he had growing up on the farm.

 

[gtcs]

Here's a pic of my old shop at the other house. The lessons learned here are almost worth all the sweat and blood it cost in tuition. It was abandoned with a collapsing roof (just like the house) bought at auction

 

[James-W]

Here's a pic of my old shop at the other house. The lessons learned here are almost worth all the sweat and blood it cost in tuition. It was abandoned with a collapsing roof (just like the house) bought at auction

Reading this brought back something an old timer once said to me when I was a young man. He said, "Son, experience is the best teacher you will ever have. Unfortunately, in some cases, the tuition can be pretty high". Not sure why, but for some reason I have always remembered that.

 

[gtcs]

Yay!!
Instead of working on my footers I'm sitting in the er with a mucked up foot!

I made it exactly 45 minutes into the 3 day weekend


Just more tuition I guess

 

[drivesitfar]

GT: i hope you will be ok soon. did you step on a nail or do tell how and what you did to your foot?

 

[gtcs]

Just got back from the ER, its just a sprain, but on the top of my foot, how do indo this ****?

Thanks for the concern.

It was abandoned with a collapsing roof (just like the house) bought at auction

Just read that and realized it could be confusing, I bought it at auction collapsing.

Then I spent 8 years remodeling the house (and garage) while living there with a family of 5. I sold it this year and made out like a bandit, and will be paying cash for my new shop.

 

[gtcs]

Well, heres my plans. I apologize for the low tech approach, but I stare at a computer screen with blueprints on it all day at work. I actually enjoy the pencil, paper and scale rule approach more anyway.

 

[gtcs]

This will be a 30x40 foot 'glorified carport' type structure that I will finish on the inside.

My plans include a lot of things I have seen here, and the things that I came up with along the way.

Lighting is going to be keyless lampholders with 100W CFL's, with some 2 lamp 4 footers over the benches on one side. There will also be some in floor lighting under the lift.

The flooring is planned as using a densifier, then a clear acrylic sealer with non skid additive (I know its harder to clean, but you saw the above mentioned ER trip right)

 

[captain14]

So now did you hurt yourself? Doing work on the build
Or tear down? If you were doing something else on Friday night that's fine too.

It's not like someone else has never been hurt or injured in the shop here!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Luv the plans gtcs, BTW there is nothing wrong with low tech. Looking forward to following your build.

Regards

 

[Bib Overalls]

I have a 30' x 40' x 10' shop. A very good size I think. Big enough for substantial projects at a reasonable cost. I had several builders tell me that 30" x 40" is a "sweet spot" when it comes to building costs per square foot.

Your grandfather would have taken that old shed down in a heart beat if he had an opportunity to get what you have planned. I say "take it down" and set the salvageable material aside. When you start finishing your shop out use as much of the salvage material as you can. That is what the old timers did.

Is "nm" New Mexico?

 

[gtcs]

Wall covering is going to be 7/16 OSB on the bottom and pegboard on the top on the 'bench' side, all osb on the storage side. There will be cabinets or steel panels over the osb, none will be 'exposed'.

There will be a shelf all the way around the upper 2 foot of the wall.

There will be 2 foot deep cabinets all down the south wall, some will be for my large wood tools, the others for car parts and such. The north wall is my 'bench' wall and will have a 2 foot deep worktop all the way down below the pegboard. The pegboard is going to covered by.... kind of like a fold up hanger door... it makes sense in my head anyway.

There will be a 2 post in the northwest bay area.(by the way, the doors are moving as far south as possible, moving the lift to where theres enough height)

The doors are 10x10, the walls are 10', the pitch is 4/12.

I think that is all...

 

[gtcs]

Drives & Captain: I was looking at a car for my little sister, and was on the phone with the owner, I was shuffling sideways trying to see some fender damage he was talking about when I ran out of yard and rolledmy foot on the curb. I didn't damage my ankle at all, but rather the top of my foot. Neither myself or the ER staff can figure out how I did that

Bib: you may be right, but he was from the 'greatest generation', he would never have thrown anything usable out, I think I am going to make an 'A' frame out of the metal siding and use the roof (its only a few years old) for a shade structure.

Yes nm is New Mexico

I actually may be out working on the foot manana, doc says it wont be bad with boots on, good thing my son is big enough to do the heavy lifting for me

 

[drivesitfar]

GT: good because i wasn't sure if you hit your foot with a sledge or maybe a axe or chainsaw because you were talking about taking the building down.

best of luck and hope you figure it out. if you repaired a falling down house while your family was living inside it this little shed to shop deal should be easy for you if you just make a good plan which i think you already did.

 

[gtcs]

Well, I got my permit approved with no (more) issues, my concrete guys are getting the site ready, and my kids have emptied the shed for me. I'm still limping but have done some.

Still waiting to hear from the power company to figure out my electric, and my building supplier called and asked if I was ready for set up yet.

Now if I can find me an insulation guy ill be set

 

[drivesitfar]

GT: congrats on the permit and sounds like you are on the mend. as far as electrical make sure you wire the new shop up with a few extra plugs and maybe an extra 220 if you can or run a 220 wire to the opposite corner of the shop in case you might have your needs change. also if you might have plumbing put in some pipes for some future if that might be a possibility too.

anyway you probably have all that figured out and post pictures when you are up to it.

good luck

 

[gtcs]

I have the electrical pretty well planned, its sketched out on my 'prints' I posted earlier. The plumbing wont be on this phase of the build, I already have an addition planned for next year(or the one after) that will have a restroom, compressor/utility room, and beer fridge. I am only allowed 1500 sq Ft by code, and I plan on having 1501 if I can get away with it, just can't afford it all at once.

By the way drives, are you like the official gj welcoming committee? I have been looking at the intro threads, and earlier today you were the most recent post on like 20 threads...

 

[drivesitfar]

GT: a few months ago i was on GJ and there wasn't a lot of positive posts or very little activity on some of the threads i like to read. some of it was because a lot of the guys i know live in different time zones than i do so i decided i'd help the new members get started. I had help from a few of the old members that helped me a couple years ago. they said don't get in a ******* match with other members because some just might be looking for a battle or drinking so I've had a great experience so far.

I'm not official anything and just like having a place to learn and maybe pass on a few things that I've learned to others. win win in my book. hopefully i'm helping some of the guys stick around that we might have lost in the past.

need help just ask and I'll bet half my posts are questions and you can see i do have a few posts. I've still got some questions to be answered before i meet my maker and this is a place loaded with talented and smart guys and gals.

if you are planning an addition might i just remind you to make the plumbing and electrical runs available so you won't have to tear up or damage your current project to get to them. otherwise i'll sit back and watch for more pictures.

good luck

 

[softailgarage]

I tend to be sentimental about things like that shed too. There's a lot of history there and memories too. I think I would find a way to incorporate the old shed into the new one. Maybe place it next to it and repair the items that need to be repaired. Just remember, once it's gone, it's gone forever.

 

[gtcs]

Worked on the demo today


I am going to build a small garden shed with the materials


I think I can do the new shed and only have to buy the plywood for the deck. There was a lot of 2x material holding up the pegboard, and a bench made mostly of 2x6 ..that is what is holding the building up right now. Well that and a pecan tree.

After we took the skin off the 3 good sides I tied a rope to the center beam and my son pulled it down. It was being held up by the pegboard and spacer boards

 

[56rpm]

Good for you gtcs on saving the shed. Good memories are priceless. Hand drawn plans are cool, I also enjoy drawing them when I can. Attached is my simple shop addition.

 

[taumac]

Here's a pic of my old shop at the other house. The lessons learned here are almost worth all the sweat and blood it cost in tuition. It was abandoned with a collapsing roof (just like the house) bought at auction

Always good to learn from previous projects.

 

[gtcs]

56: looks like a good size addition. I haven't even finished grading the site yet and I'm already looking at an addition to mine guess they're never big enough so keep adding right?

I would love to see your mustang build, but the link wouldn't work

 

[gtcs]

Same view as yesterday, almost have it all disassembled but the sawzall, both impacts, and me have all run out of charge today.

The concrete guys came and worked on the pad today, have one low spot but think they'll have enough dirt from digging the footers to fill it

 

[gtcs]

Friggen rain. That is all that got done on the shop this week.

I installed pendant lights at my grandparents, fixed a vanity light at my dads, washed the 'dirtygirl' (of course right before the rain) repaired a water line that was found, and built a temporary dog run for the safety of the concrete guys. But just the footers dug

For any one wondering this is dirtygirl

Why in the Sam hell did I get a black car here? It was 102 and blowing sand the day before I washed her, then it rained the next three after

I'll quit whining now

 

[gtcs]

Poured 30 yards of concrete today...




I decided not to decide on my lift placement, so that's a 6" slab, fiber reinforced with rebar on 16"...now the lift can go wherever, the only downside is now I won't have my in floor lights

 

[gtcs]

You've got to be kidding right? An hour after its done it starts friggen hailing!

Hope that new slabs ok

 

[drivesitfar]

GT: looks good and i know you will like having that 6 inch floor. shouldn't have any cracks and i hope the hail didn't pit it too much or at all.

Is your slab still a 30 x 40? was that 3 fully loaded cement trucks that came to your house today?

looks like nice work and how many helpers or did you hire out the labor?

 

[gtcs]

Yessir, three FULLY loaded trucks, I'm glad there no scales between my house and their yard. They destroyed the old shed slab, I was going to use it as part of the driveway, but it wasn't meant for those big trucks. On the bright side the drivers got through my 8'11" opening without the help of a sawzall.

I did a little, but it was 2 guys and their 2 teenage sons, my son and I handed them tools and helped guide the trucks in (they have to back in over a block, the alley dead ends into my yard)

 

[gtcs]

Finally had some progress on the shop...about 2 hours in we got attacked by bees.

Hated to call the bug guy but they really needed something for anger management, guess we'll be back at it in the AM

 

[vexvader]

Looks good take lots of pics for us! I will be following...

Vex

 

[gtcs]

At 8:00


At 12:30


At 6:00 tonight


Inside


Looking out

 

[drivesitfar]

GTCS: that was quick. looks great. garage doors and you have a dried in storage. or are you planning on electrical, insulation and what other plans do you have?

very nice looking space.

 

[Bib Overalls]

I lived in Albuquerque in the late 70s and early 80s. When you confirmed you were in New Mexico I woundered where. Rather than ask, I thought I would look for clues and reason it out. The first clue was the well established trees. The second was when you mentioned alley. That makes me think the University and Southeast Heights. Old well established neighborhoods that date back to the days of substantial lots with alleyways for the garbage trucks, cats, and also access for outbuildings.