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Got the ds rear inner fender patch made and installed. Should have made it MUCH bigger. corner patch 1.jpegcorner patch 2.jpeg

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Then I got the rocker itself on. Not super happy with the fit, but it’s a ton better than it was. Or should I say," wasn’t", since the rocker was pretty much completely missing. Still need to finish putting in the spot tacks. I’d do 1” stitch welds, but I can’t get to the back side to bump it back out.ds1.jpegds2.jpegds3.jpegds4.jpeg
 
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We spent the day running errands yesterday. 9 hours on the roads, from Lansing to Grand Rapids to Pontiac to Flint then finally back home. Even though we did all that running, I managed to drag my **** out to the shop. Swapped to the passenger side so Robin can at least put on the passenger fender. When I was cutting the rocker off I think I found the reason for the rockers rotting off. This rocker was missing about half of these plugs. The new panels don’t have these holes. And when I get the Target done, I’ll pull da Cruze in and make sure they’re all there.

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I think this one is due to the fact that the car was designed where they don't have the rust issues we do (Korea). The whole car is either galvanized or painted with epoxy primer. The plug holes are what did it in. I do wonder what we could do about the rear wheel openings on pickups. They naturally just hold the mud. I'd really like to figure out a solution by the time I get back to Clifford, the Big Red Dodge.
 
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xtremek said:
Is that different than Ziebart?
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Similar process but different products. I prefer oil undercoatings as they don't seal in anything underneath them like Ziebart does.

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I think this one is due to the fact that the car was designed where they don't have the rust issues we do (Korea). The whole car is either galvanized or painted with epoxy primer. The plug holes are what did it in. I do wonder what we could do about the rear wheel openings on pickups. They naturally just hold the mud. I'd really like to figure out a solution by the time I get back to Clifford, the Big Red Dodge.
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I don't know how you'd ever get that problem fixed. At least around here with wet salty spray in the winter and mud from dirt roads the rest of the year, that liquid gets absolutely everywhere. And over time it builds up like in your Cruze pics.

I think the easiest would be to have the body panels so that there is just a straight panel with a slight lip for the wheel well. That way you can at least clean them to get the built up **** out, not like other designs that have multiple pieces coming together in the wheel well with whatever crappy foam/sealant the OEM put in there.
 
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xtremek said:
Is this something you do yourself? If so, what product do you use? If not, where do you get it done?
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Back a few years ago (actually more than a few, more like 20 now that I think about it) me and a buddy used to do our vehicles and a few others every year. I think that mix was mostly used engine oil with some ATF to thin it out enough that it would go through a spray gun. My buddy had a spray gun with all the attachments to get inside of doors and other spaces, and it worked pretty well. Although it did make a real mess, and the car would drip oil for days afterwards. Ever since we stopped doing that I've been getting it done elsewhere simply because I don't have the time. Most shops that do it now are part of the Krown franchise. That stuff works pretty well; it seems to hold up better than fluid film but it doesn't form a hard layer either like paints and other products that are more of a sealant.
 
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jollygreengiant said:
That stuff works pretty well; it seems to hold up better than fluid film but it doesn't form a hard layer either like paints and other products that are more of a sealant.
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@jollygreengiant, I have only used POR15 once and was impressed with its ability to harden into an impenetrable coating. Then I discovered that rust was still doing its thing but completely hidden. Seems to work great on rusty surfaces but not clean metal. I suspect any flexibility in the metal under the POR15 allows pockets to form and retain condensation. I like the idea of flexible coatings and oil certainly qualifies.

Full disclosure, we moved from the Hudson Valley to Florida 50 years ago and the only rust we have to deal with is on surfaces that touch the sun -- once the paint evaporates, the hood, roof and trunk become bare steel and develop a brown patina but it usually doesn't go through the metal. Our '04 PT Cruiser looks like new underneath but the clearcoat on the sun-baked surfaces are showing checks and lines. Might just give it a light sand and wrap it all in vinyl (there's a nice beltline just below the windows that goes around the entire body).
 
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I finished the metal work on the passenger side rocker. I definitely am not a pro, but for having to build the corner from scratch, I'm happy with it. The gap is off by a ton. But it's good enough for what it is and who it's for.
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And to all the folks who drop by this little corner of chaos, Happy Christmas. I pray your holiday is filled with joy.
 
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Thanks guys.

For my New Years resolution, I've decided no new projects until the frame for the Old Dawg? Big Mule? (the '52 Cabover) is well underway. I was doing pretty good until Robin's car died, and my BiL followed suit. But Robin's car is getting close.....................I hope. Getting close to getting the driver's rocker done...............................I hope.
 
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On a happy note, I guy I met at Sick Week Michigan Miles who had a ’56 Caddy. He’d swapped out the old engine for an LS and did a front disc conversion on it. He asked if I wanted his “old” parts………….for free, to which I said YES. All I had to do was pay for shipping. He found out the cost of shipping, and said I’m coming up to Michigan (he lives in N Carolina), can you wait until then? Well today was the day I got the parts. The front brakes are pretty much brand new, including the backing plates, and so is the gas tank. So once I get my schedule cleared (hopefully by April), I’ll pull the Caddy in and see if it runs and drives.

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This has been a painful slog, but the rockers are done……for now. Late next summer I’ll sand this down, mud the visible seams, and put automotive paint on them.

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For now, I rolled (please don’t laugh too hard) some Rustoleum mixed with a little TSC hardener. Surprisingly, the paint match turned out reasonable.
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Next up is to put the front clip on, then give it a good scrub before I release it into the wild. After “the Target” is done, I’ll roll the oldest daughter’s car, “da Cruze”, in for a new oil cooler and water outlet. Thinking of changing the names of the Cruzes to “Thing 1 and Thing 2”. What'd you think?
 
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jon72vega said:
Good job on the rockers!
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Thanks. They're not the greatest, but only the guys visiting this thread and a few others will even notice.
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I like Things 1 & 2. Nice work on the rocker panels. Rustoleum rolled on should flatten out to a reasonable finish. I rolled and tipped my boat (2 part poly). A friend always used black Rustoleum on his Model T, Easy to use, and flattened out well.
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Thanks. I'm surprised how nicely it flattened out. The orange peel is about the same as what's on the OEM finish
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Thing 1 and Thing 2 sounds awesome and appropriate.
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Thanks. It made me chuckle when I thought it up.
 
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Some people rag on Rustoleum but it works really well imo. Certainly not a paint booth professional type finish, but that's not what it's designed for either.

I like your new names. Could also go with something like headache 1&2, or the migraine and the hernia considering how much trouble they are causing you lol.

I may have missed it, but do these new rockers have access holes in the panels? If so I'd blast the inside really good with Fluid Film or Krown, or even just a diluted oil spray before they see salt and moisture.
 
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jollygreengiant said:
Some people rag on Rustoleum but it works really well imo. Certainly not a paint booth professional type finish, but that's not what it's designed for either.

I like your new names. Could also go with something like headache 1&2, or the migraine and the hernia considering how much trouble they are causing you lol.

I may have missed it, but do these new rockers have access holes in the panels? If so I'd blast the inside really good with Fluid Film or Krown, or even just a diluted oil spray before they see salt and moisture.
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We'll see how well Rustoleum holds up to Michigan winters and dirt roads.

There are holes in both ends of the rockers. I've got a can of 3M cavity wax I'll spray in them. I also have the 360* spray wands that attach to the can.
 
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Painting with Rustoleum is becoming a pretty serious thing.
Im considering painting that 93 Z71, that I bought this year with a gallon of rustoleum white. I shot my enclosed trailer with it about 6 years ago and it still looks good.
 
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Last night I finished up “Thing 1”. Ok, it still needs a small top off of refrigerant, the hood seals, one door rocker seal, and the underhood mat installed, but it’s drivable now. I’ll get the required clips tomorrow so that I can stamp done on it.done.jpeg

The front clip sheetmetal is from Partify, and I’m extremely happy with it. Yes, her car has 3 shades of black on it now, but it no longer looks like a rolling freak show.
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As a reminder, this is how it started a couple months ago.

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jon72vega said:
Kirk,
Good job on "Thing 1"!
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Nice work
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Gotta feel good getting Thing 1 back in service.
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harley jim said:
Nice job!
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Thanks guys. I thought Thing 1 was ready for the road. Sigh. The squirters are aimed so they hit the back of the hood. There's no adjustment to them, and they snap fit into the hood. I'm going to have to pop off the hood liner and see what the issue is. I have driven locally a few times, and other than that, she's good to go. Hopefully get on to Thing 2 tonight and have it done before Monday.
 
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