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Poor Ron

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Kirk; Down here in the Capital City I have 6 inches of snow, plus drifts. We just got ours all cleaned up.
The air temp is 6 above, windchill is 19 below. Wifey asked if we were doing the neighbors walks with the
ATV this time. I said it was too cold, they are all way younger than us.
 

GreenIron

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Kirk, what a great thread. Although, I've only read through half of it before my eyes began to cross. :D Once I get them back in line again, I'll go back and read the remainder.


Have a Merry Christmas.
 
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xtremek

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One thing I know for sure, it's not, not getting done because of you being lazy, you are a trooper.
I hope you and Robin have a Merry Christmas

Thanks Jim, but this past year has worn me out physically, and even more mentally.

Happy X-mass Season Xtremek.

Hope the wind and snow treat you right on the other side of the lake. Its a bit breezy here and a Hight of -2 today with a wind chill of -50 give or take.

It was very breezy here, but definitely not that cold

Garage in a Box sheds.

for Mine to gain a bit on height on them I put down cement blocks on the ground then wood beams on the blocks then screw the framework to the wood beams.

It didn't make it through the storm. We didn't anchor it well, and the bottom braces are missing their intersection pieces.

Kirk; Down here in the Capital City I have 6 inches of snow, plus drifts. We just got ours all cleaned up.
The air temp is 6 above, windchill is 19 below. Wifey asked if we were doing the neighbors walks with the
ATV this time. I said it was too cold, they are all way younger than us.

Welcome to the 7th circle of H3LL, I mean my thread. Nice to have a neighbor drop by, Ron. I didn't think we got 6", but with the blowing snow, it's hard to tell. It's definitely cold.
Kirk, what a great thread. Although, I've only read through half of it before my eyes began to cross. :D Once I get them back in line again, I'll go back and read the remainder.


Have a Merry Christmas.
Thanks for dropping by. You're a glutton for punishment if you're reading my stuff.
 
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xtremek

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Gents, thanks for again for dropping by. We did get hit pretty hard by the storm. The Garage-In-A-Box didn't make it through the storm. I know why it failed, and I hope to have it fixed by the time the next storm gets here.
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And the die hard romantic that I am, I bought my wife a round baler. I know, I am such a softie.
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While I searching FB Marketplace, I also came across a tedder. We spent all of last Wednesday trailering farm equipment home.

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xtremek

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Since the Girlfriend is now somewhat mobile, I started shuffling vehicles through the shop. In the last week and a half, that’s been 4 oil changes, and one 4 wheel brake job. I also got the old Honda to fire on ether. And on top of that, I’ve been chipping away at trying to get the shop back to normal, even if it doesn’t look like it.barn mess 28Dec22.jpg
 
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xtremek

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Your such a romantic!

I got her flowers once. BIG MISTAKE. So I spent some of my truck fund, and bought her a baler.

Your wife must be thrilled! I know mine certainly wouldn't be lol.

I see you have a fair bit of snow there too. I'm really looking forward to the next week when it all melts. :headshake

Ours is pretty much all gone, only in the woods and ditches. I'm guessing that by the timed the weekend gets here, it'll all be gone.

I feel bad about all that white stuff. Sounds like you are becoming a regular farmer…

Like I said, it's almost all gone now.

And NO, I am not a farmer. She wants to be. I had enough of that growing up. Putting up hay, raising feeder pigs, a couple of steers, a bunch of chickens. Been shoulder deep in the business end of a sow. 3pm, and 2am feeding and labor check (Dad had the 6am, 6pm, and 10pm, Mom had the 9am and noon). Great memories that are based in reality. It's a hard life. It's a good life, but it is hard. Nope, I'll pass.
 

jon72vega

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Since the Girlfriend is now somewhat mobile, I started shuffling vehicles through the shop. In the last week and a half, that’s been 4 oil changes, and one 4 wheel brake job. I also got the old Honda to fire on ether. And on top of that, I’ve been chipping away at trying to get the shop back to normal, even if it doesn’t look like it.barn mess 28Dec22.jpg
I think that's the 1st time I've seen the inside of your shop. (y)
Looks like you have alot of different projects going on.
I'm jealous of all the room!
 
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xtremek

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I think that's the 1st time I've seen the inside of your shop. (y)
Looks like you have alot of different projects going on.
I'm jealous of all the room!
The room comes with responsibilities. But yes, I have a ton of projects lined up, though most of what you see is stuff I crammed into corners while I did the GF update. Trying hard to get everything in order, before the new year hits, and life starts the dead run again.

That looks normal to me.
It's too out of control for my likings. I need to get it down to some semblence of a dull roar, before I pull in the Old Mule and the new cab for the GF.
Better hurry and work on the She Shed now that you dont have to worry about looking for the dropped nails/screws in the snow!
You'll see the latest when I upload the pic tonight. I'm slowly inching forward, but there is progress. But as for looking for nails in the snow, there really isn't any left here, just the plowed banks and deep ditches. Not even any in the woods.
 
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xtremek

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So you will be done by lunch?
Kind of drizzly here, some I'm going to just lay around and be a bum. Or make shelf brackets to help clear up the mess in the shop. I guess it's going to be brackets.
Are you putting those trusses up by hand? I can't remember your plan of attack here.
I'm using the same "brackets" I used to put the headers up. That will get them up on the headers, upside down. I haven't figured out how I'm going to flip them by myself, yet.
 

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I'm all for DIY, but to an extent....

Do you not have some level of access to some lift equipment? Some type of loader with a boom on it? I.e. skid steer or tractor with a long boom rigged to a bucket? Or go first class and rent an all terrain forklift?

Weld a vertical tube to the dozer bucket and hook the hoist to the top of it?

Just some way to work a bit more efficiently to get this done?

Fyi, when my brother and I had a building put up in SD for our first shop, the crew came in and put the whole shell up in three days. Crew of four guys with a front end loader. Boom for the on the bucket and a larger platform for either the front of the machine or to rig on the side. Then they could just drive along work on the tall sides, etc. This was a 50x96, with 16' side walls.
After the shell was up, my bro and I worked on the inside to prep for concrete, floor heat, and later the wall insulation and electrical.

Hopefully that sparks some ideas!

Happy new year!
 
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xtremek

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I'm all for DIY, but to an extent....

Do you not have some level of access to some lift equipment? Some type of loader with a boom on it? I.e. skid steer or tractor with a long boom rigged to a bucket? Or go first class and rent an all terrain forklift?

Weld a vertical tube to the dozer bucket and hook the hoist to the top of it?

Just some way to work a bit more efficiently to get this done?

Fyi, when my brother and I had a building put up in SD for our first shop, the crew came in and put the whole shell up in three days. Crew of four guys with a front end loader. Boom for the on the bucket and a larger platform for either the front of the machine or to rig on the side. Then they could just drive along work on the tall sides, etc. This was a 50x96, with 16' side walls.
After the shell was up, my bro and I worked on the inside to prep for concrete, floor heat, and later the wall insulation and electrical.

Hopefully that sparks some ideas!

Happy new year!
Since I'm so slow, (I don't know what the heck I'm doing, AND I'm an old fart), rentals are out.

I do have access to my neighbor's tractor, but I haven't figured out how to fix anything to the bucket without altering it in any way, and do it for a reasonable price. But I do appreciate the thought starters.
 

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Since I'm so slow, (I don't know what the heck I'm doing, AND I'm an old fart), rentals are out.

I do have access to my neighbor's tractor, but I haven't figured out how to fix anything to the bucket without altering it in any way, and do it for a reasonable price. But I do appreciate the thought starters.

For the size of trusses your working with I'd forget the loader mounted boom and look at something to mount on the back of it. You can lift a lot more from the back than you can from the loader. I know many years ago when my grandfather built his shop, he got an old telephone pole and mounted it to the 3 point hitch, and ran a couple supporting cables from the top of the pole to the front of the tractor. Then you just have to add a winch on the bottom of the pole and a pulley on the top and you have your own crane.

I know this probably doesn't help you very much since it will take more time to put something like this together. But I just cringe at the thought of how much work it's going to be to put those trusses up by hand.
 
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xtremek

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JG, do you really think the trusses will be that heavy to flip? Getting them up on the headers won't be the issue, that's the easy part. I've proven that.
 

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Kind of drizzly here, some I'm going to just lay around and be a bum. Or make shelf brackets to help clear up the mess in the shop. I guess it's going to be brackets.

I'm using the same "brackets" I used to put the headers up. That will get them up on the headers, upside down. I haven't figured out how I'm going to flip them by myself, yet.
rope and pulley from the top of your Gabel end?
 

jollygreengiant

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JG, do you really think the trusses will be that heavy to flip? Getting them up on the headers won't be the issue, that's the easy part. I've proven that.
rope and pulley from the top of your Gabel end?

I don't think they would be overly heavy. My bigger concern would be how awkward it would be to do that from ladders and from the walls, especially in snow and ice. IMO that's just asking for something/someone to reach to far or to slip. Though sublime68charger may be on to something. You could get a piece of 2x wood at least as long as your walls are tall with a U shape/saddle on the end of it. Put the saddle against the truss peak while its upside down and then push until you can stand the 2x upright. That should get the truss horizontal. From there you could use a rope and pulley from the gable/last erected truss to pull the horizontal truss to standing up. Though I'd maybe add a couple braces so that it can't come back over center while you are raising it.
 

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I don't think that the flipping is going to be the issue, getting them to stop before they flip all the way over might be. You might want to screw some stops on either side of the bottom chord, that way the bottom can't slip too far, then I guess a rope tied to a truck to keep the top from going all the way over while you try and flip it upright? I have been spoiled with equipment, never set trusses without a crane, but I have done plenty of weird stuff with towers.
 

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Since I missed the holidays before playing catchup, I'm hoping you had an excellent Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year's day! It's been raining here for the last few days, but nothing like you have to play in while putting up the she-shed. i hate to say it, but for us old guys, it's almost embarassing how quickly pros put rectangular structures up, at least compared to me, haha.
 
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xtremek

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Since I missed the holidays before playing catchup, I'm hoping you had an excellent Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year's day! It's been raining here for the last few days, but nothing like you have to play in while putting up the she-shed. i hate to say it, but for us old guys, it's almost embarassing how quickly pros put rectangular structures up, at least compared to me, haha.

Preach that, that last sentence.
 
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