Are you sure that there is gas available at the street ??I wonder why the house across the street didn't go with a gas line. Sounds like its not that much to run the line.
Not sure where this would be allowed? I guess if the gas company sets the meter at the streets maybe. However, there is no way a gas company will let a customer install piping themselves between the main and the meter. By code, that's the service line and the gas co. has about 1000 rules they have to follow with it. Construction of natural gas facilities is regulated through DOT-PHMSA and they have lots of requirements. I could start listing them, but I'll leave at that. The gas co or their trained, qualified, etc. subcontractor has to do that.the thing about propane is a supplier will want to put in a tank that is not oversized…for them. Our supplier wants to have twice the annual load of the capacity of the tank. They want to avoid having to much steel in the yard. The annual rental fee may be adjusted or tank changed out depending upon usage. Rent an excavator and dig the trench to the gas co/towns Specs. Buy the poly pipe and lay it in with backfill, again to local specs and be done with it. Taht way you have nice NG supply without the worry, well unless it is really cold and the system freezes up. How about a mini-split?
Generally the gas supplier is responsible from the main the the meter. The OP is in Texas and I assumed the meter is at the street the the homeowner is responsible to get the piping to the meter.Not sure where this would be allowed? I guess if the gas company sets the meter at the streets maybe. However, there is no way a gas company will let a customer install piping themselves between the main and the meter. By code, that's the service line and the gas co. has about 1000 rules they have to follow with it. Construction of natural gas facilities is regulated through DOT-PHMSA and they have lots of requirements. I could start listing them, but I'll leave at that. The gas co or their trained, qualified, etc. subcontractor has to do that.
depends, now a days they want you to pay from the street to your meter. i have ppl calling me all the time because the gas company wants 2500 to put in a line and meter set to the houseGenerally the gas supplier is responsible from the main the the meter. The OP is in Texas and I assumed the meter is at the street the the homeowner is responsible to get the piping to the meter.
Up here in the north country the meter is always along the building so the gas company will bore it in then the hook up is the homeowner' responsibility.
Why are they calling you? Not to tap the gas company's main and run a service line, I hope.depends, now a days they want you to pay from the street to your meter. i have ppl calling me all the time because the gas company wants 2500 to put in a line and meter set to the house
to set a propane tank and hook up lp, it was cheaper for us to set tank and run gas lines then the natural gas company to run a meter setWhy are they calling you? Not to tap the gas company's main and run a service line, I hope.
Cheaper up front or in the long run? The former seems likely, but not the latterto set a propane tank and hook up lp, it was cheaper for us to set tank and run gas lines then the natural gas company to run a meter set
up front, some ppl only see the upfront cost and really wont think of the long run.Cheaper up front or in the long run? The former seems likely, but not the latter
most likely because anything above 120 asm tanks need to be 10 ft away from the house and 10 ft from a property line, however if you have a 100 gallon tank set i do not see how they can tell you no, unless you are in an HOA?Around here if natural gas is available the city will not let you set a larger LPG tank, except for temporay heat, construction heat for example. you can use the BBQ sized tanks, but nobody has a 500 gallon in the yard.
wouldn't let me edit the ASME part lolmost likely because anything above 120 asme tanks need to be 10 ft away from the house and 10 ft from a property line, however if you have a 100 gallon tank set i do not see how they can tell you no, unless you are in an HOA?
Well, I suppose they can't stop you if they don't know about it. But they will prevent it. When the city finds something that doesn't meet code they will letter you to death for a few months, then the last letters warn that if it isn't corrected by a certain date the city will remove it and send you a bill. And they will!most likely because anything above 120 asm tanks need to be 10 ft away from the house and 10 ft from a property line, however if you have a 100 gallon tank set i do not see how they can tell you no, unless you are in an HOA?
yeah, i get it. local code will always trump the gas code and national code. no need to give your self a headache if you have the option for naturalWell, I suppose they can't stop you if they don't know about it. But they will prevent it. When the city finds something that doesn't meet code they will letter you to death for a few months, then the last letters warn that if it isn't corrected by a certain date the city will remove it and send you a bill. And they will!
20 years ago the gas co quoted me $20/ft to run a line from the street, and there was no option to dig the trench myself.
The house we purchased had a HP and was basically all electric. Although NG was available at the end of our street. To extend the NG 1,500 ft was going to cost $27K as they would have to install a 2 inch main to our houseWhen I built my house 4 years ago, I called the natural gas company up about extending service to my house. The house 2 lots away already had service. There was an empty lot between him and I. He is on a corner and I am about 300 feet East of him. I learned that the gas main ran on the other side of the street from him and he was tapped into the main with a 1 inch line(I think, might be larger, but not much) So I asked the gas company to do the same thing, tap in and run me a small line. They said the would not do that, the I needed to pay them to extend the 3 inch main line from the corner, past the existing house, past the empty lot, past my lot, and two the unoccupied modular home in the lost to the East of my house. And they wanted about $8000 to do it. And they wanted me to pay the whole amount and then go to the people who owned the empty lot and the unoccupied modular(which might have been bank owned at the time) and ask them to reimburse me for their third of the project.
Now, I was already planning an all electric geo-thermal heat pump for my HVAC. All I wanted for NG was the water heater and cooktop. So I went all electric. Maybe once I build my garage, I'll have the propane company out to hide a tank behind it and convert my cooktop.
Funny think is, when my neighbor finally built a house on the empty lot last summer, the gas company said they would run me the 1 inch line for $2500, but do nothing about my almost new electric appliances. No thanks. The water heater usage alone would have paid for the line in 4 years.
Must be significantly larger than a standard house to require a 2” line. From what I recall, 1” or about that is more typical.The house we purchased had a HP and was basically all electric. Although NG was available at the end of our street. To extend the NG 1,500 ft was going to cost $27K as they would have to install a 2 inch main to our house
Had LP installed and we replaced the kit. Stove, hooked up the gas fireplace, and added a 30K wall heater in the large game room. Done. Cost to install LP 1K.
Distance and pressure are also factorsMust be significantly larger than a standard house to require a 2” line. From what I recall, 1” or about that is more typical.
The gas company wouldn't run the standard 1" gas line that distance. As the developer hadn't installed gas lines in some areas, over time the gas companies wouldn't install a new 2 inch main gas line to serve a single house!Must be significantly larger than a standard house to require a 2” line. From what I recall, 1” or about that is more typical.