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Adding dehumidifier drain to existing a/c condensate drain

mike93lx

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I need a dehumidifier for my crawl space and would like to tie into the condensate line from one of my a/c units so I can avoid adding another penetration in the wall. Can I just tee into it? Anything special to consider?
 
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Not that I can imagine. You'll, of course, want to add a 'P' trap upstream of the DH Tee.
 

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Serious question, why? The drain just pops out the wall and drips on the ground. No odor to worry about
The AC drain pan should already have a P-trap associated with it. That's because there's a pressure difference between the inside of the AC unit and the conditioned space. Just tee in downstream of that trap and you'll be fine using that pipe as a path for your condensate that avoids a new wall penetration. I don't see why your dehumidifier itself would need its own trap.

However, do not tap into the upstream side of the AC P-trap, and don't drip directly into the AC pan.
 
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The AC drain pan should already have a P-trap associated with it. That's because there's a pressure difference between the inside of the AC unit and the conditioned space. Just tee in downstream of that trap and you'll be fine using that pipe as a path for your condensate that avoids a new wall penetration. I don't see why your dehumidifier itself would need its own trap.

However, do not tap into the upstream side of the AC P-trap, and don't drip directly into the AC pan.
Got it. I'll definitely be downstream of any trap on the a/c system.
I need to check elevation anyway. My hope is to use the a/c drain, but I'd rather not have to buy a pump to get up to it.
 
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The AC drain pan should already have a P-trap associated with it. That's because there's a pressure difference between the inside of the AC unit and the conditioned space. Just tee in downstream of that trap and you'll be fine using that pipe as a path for your condensate that avoids a new wall penetration. I don't see why your dehumidifier itself would need its own trap.

However, do not tap into the upstream side of the AC P-trap, and don't drip directly into the AC pan.
It's all up and running. I did have to use a pump to get up about 18" and across the crawl, but I tee-d into the condensate drain about a foot inside the crawl and used a threaded barb fitting.

I also noticed that the condensate drain for my 1st floor a/c has a big belly in it, but I don't see a great way to fix it without totally rerouting it. I may just change that to drain into this condensate pump as well and call it good.

The aprilaire dehumidifier I installed has a pump cut out, so that won't run if the pump fails, but I don't know if I can do anything about the a/c
 
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check it often, ours which drains into the ac condensate pump stops up with slime time to time
My intention is to clean the pump annually when I clean the filter in the dehumidifier . Hopefully that happens.

At least the dehumidifier has a float input that I have tied to the pump, so if the pump fails, the dehumidifier shouldn't run
 

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When u need to trap a condensate line. Only if the evaporator is on the suction side of the blower like on most air handlers. Residential units only need 1.5" difference between the in and out to overcome the suction pressure. Tie two drains together either put a tee after the trap one side open to atmosphere or drill a 1/4" hole top of pipe after each trap When evaporator is on the positive side of a blower doesn't need one.
 
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When u need to trap a condensate line. Only if the evaporator is on the suction side of the blower like on most air handlers. Residential units only need 1.5" difference between the in and out to overcome the suction pressure. Tie two drains together either put a tee after the trap one side open to atmosphere or drill a 1/4" hole top of pipe after each trap When evaporator is on the positive side of a blower doesn't need one.
Venting the pipe after the trap would eliminate its purpose, no?
 

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Venting the pipe after eliminates any type of pressure that the other unit might make. Then gravity lets the water flow.
 
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