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Adding sink to detached garage - Plumbing advice

TShee

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Hi all, I just built a garage at the rear of my property and want to run water and drain plumbing for a slop sink. I have a few questions and for reference I'm in VA and on city water and sewer:

I'll be trenching my supply and drain line to my basement about 70'. The 3" DWV pipe will go through the foundation wall in the corner and run along a wall with a "chimney", wrapping around that to tie into my house's main drain/vent stack which is 4".

First Q: Where the drain (and water line) penetrate the brick foundation wall, do I need to sleeve those penetrations the way you do for a slab (pipe thru pipe 2 sizes larger)? Or can that be sealed with something like plumber's putty or mortar?

Second Q: Is there a code requirement for height of a connection to a house's stack from the floor? I'll be dropping 1/8" per foot in my trench since I'm using 3" pipe but it's still probably going to come in between 10-18" from the basement slab where it meets the stack.

In the basement, I'll have to cut the slab and bring the pipes under the footer here, they'll be sleeved in larger pipes. From my drain riser, I'll use a tee with a clean-out plug, and just above that, a sanitary tee going to 1.5" PVC for my sink drain.

Third Q:
Can I use an AAV (air-admittance valve) on the sink drain just after the P-trap or do I need to make a vent from my 3" riser out the roof? I'd like to avoid that if I can, and I don't plan on adding more plumbing fixtures in the future. If I had to I'd have a 2" PVC vent come off the drain riser with a wye fitting or reducer.

Fourth Q: Any code issues with running water supply in the same trench as the drain? The plan is side by side min. 24" below grade (6" below frost line). Electrical conduit will be above it at min. 18" below grade, and fiber/Cat6 and detectable tape above that.

Fifth Q: Any required clearances between PVC DWV and water heaters? My natural gas heater is currently against the wall I'd need to run my drain in the basement, so I'm planning on moving it a few inches off the wall so I can run the drain behind it.

I've attached a pencil sketch to help illustrate my plan. I can provide pictures if it helps.

P.S. I've heard of people tying their garage drains to their house's sewer line out in the yard, but the house is old and has a terracotta main line located god knows where or how deep. At a future point in time I'd like to pipe-burst it anyways with an HDPE line.

Thanks in advance for any help!!
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larry4406

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I have done what you are contemplating. Did it at my last house.

What type of foundation do you have? Block or poured foundation? Mine was poured. I core drilled thru the foundation and used a link seal. There are several brands of link seals. The pipe OD and core drill size determine the type of link seal and number of links needed. Link to typical example.

My sewer lateral from the detached shop tied into a basement stack about 16" above the concrete slab.

My core drill was so close to footing level (20"), I dug down to the draintile, filled the excavation with #57 gravel to above the elevation of the core drill/link seal, covered with filter fabric, then backfilled. I had to install a cleanout in the run from the shop because of the distance; I think the Code is every 50' but don't quote me.

Water line I did like this

I would think you are fine with using an air admittance valve (Studer vent) but others may claim otherwise.

Here in northern VA we have to bury our waterlines 36" below grade to pass inspection. We run sewer and waterlines in the same trench. We have to add a tracer wire with the waterline when it connects to a water meter.
 
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TShee

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Thanks for sharing your process and good tip on the link seal!

I don't appear to have any drain tile. The basement floor is concrete graded to a central floor drain. When it rains heavily I get little streams from holes in the mortar down to the drain. I may still take your approach so that rainwater at least reaches soil near the base of the basement wall rather than midway.

I'm thinking I should be okay with just one clean-out where it comes into the garage based on Virginia Plumbing Code 708.1.1 "Building drains shall have cleanouts located at intervals of not more than 100 feet".
 
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