Adhering rubber to steel

[BgBmBoo]

Hello all,

I'm looking for product suggests for a super strength adhesive to glue rubber mats to the sides of my horse trailer. Mats will be 3/8 to 1/2 thick (think rubber truck mat texture) and the trailer is galvanneal steel painted with automotive grade polyurethane paint.

Any thoughts on a good products that will permanently adhere the mats to the walls?

Appreciate any suggestions!

 

[rlitman]

If it were me, I would be rolling on a contact adhesive to both surfaces, and using a piece of metal trim screwed down at the edges of the mats to prevent the edges from lifting.

 

[chaosracing]

Find a commercial roofer or roofing supply place. Get the contact adhesive they use for EPDM (rubber) roofing. Commercial roofers always have left overs lying around. You could always go to Home Depot or Lowes and buy the contact adhesive for laminate tops, but that wasnt meant for outdoor use.

 

[kd3pc]

I would be looking at other trailers...the featherlites and excess(sp) we see here for horses, use mechanical fasteners every so often, but you have to make sure they are flush with the pads and in good repair. Chemicals to attach need to be animal safe, in case they crib or chew.

Horses are hard on things like this and any trim can be a cut or puncture hazard if the horse kicks it loose. We used strong bolts and cup washers to hold our rubber mats up and in place.

Again - ANY trim that can be kicked, cribbed or jarred loose will be a hazard to your animals.

 

[BgBmBoo]

kd3pc - Man I would LOVE to pick up a featherlite. Unfortunately those are a little outside our budget and the used market in my area is none virtually existent.

Rubber mats on the bottom 1/2 of the walls are a factory option on the trailer we are looking at and after a discussion with the mfg I learned they use an adhesive to glue the mats on the walls. For what they want to charge to do this I figured it was worth looking into the DIY option if the adhesives are somewhat affordable and available.

I'll look into the roofing EPDM adhesives. Appreciate the suggestions. It definitely gives me a direction to start researching.

 

[MarlynOC]

Rivets with large washers

 

[AJ.]

Contact Adhesive or Silicone, I have used both with good success sticking rubber mat to metal in the past.

Cheers Andrew

 

[Z2V]

Look at Sikaflex 291

 

[My Old Tools]

We use an epoxy to bond rubber bandsaw tires to steel wheels, so I went to Google and found this....
http://www.masterbond.com/tds/ep21tdc-7

 

[rlitman]

Contact Adhesive or Silicone, I have used both with good success sticking rubber mat to metal in the past.

Cheers Andrew

Beware of silicone. Since both the rubber and the metal are impermeable, it will only cure around the edges. 2-part silicones are potentially an option, but many will not cure in the presence of all sorts of chemicals present in the rubber.

In other words, silicone may hold a small patch of rubber down, but not a large sheet.

 

[PWC Repair]

Dap Weldwood with the red label. Best I've found for permanent waterproof adhesion of all types of material.

 

[gnpenning]

Trailer and stall mats are very heavy along with road vibration, and maybe horse's kicking them require more than a little adhesive to make them stay on a vertical plane. Don't forget the hot and cold cycles with dissimilar materials.

As KD3 mentioned take your lead from horse trailer manufactures since they have to warranty what they install. That's what I did and 20 years later they have survived horse's and cattle and are still up. You will need a mechanical fastener along with sealing the edge to water or urine.

 

[vtcat]

Sikaflex makes excellent products,Z2V recommended the 291.Or you could call/email the company for recommendations

 

[nine4gmc]

Contact adhesive or if you have an upholstery supply place nearby, Landau Top and Trim Adhesive.

 

[jubilee]

3M black weather strip adhesive. That's what we use to glue fender liners on Peterbilt aluminum fenders.

 

[pancho400cid]

SCOTCH WELD 1300:

http://www.rshughes.com/p/3M-Neoprene-High-Performance-1300-Rubber-Gasket-Adhesive-Yellow-Liquid-1-Qt-Can-19871/021200_19871/?gclid=Cj0KEQiA25rFBRC8rfyX1vjeg7YBEiQAFIb3b5CQLiP1KVLdGv4EtVcqWo0Sb9lDNav2uD4SnOss7wIaAs8b8P8HAQ&utm_source=rshgs&utm_campaign=gs_021200-19871&s_kwcid=AL!4414!3!163902854283!!!s!275007360852!&ef_id=VSKSSQAABDOFXXii:20170217230211:s


DATASHEET:

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/66251O/neoprene-hi-perf-rubber-gasket-adh-1300-1300l.pdf

 

[four.cycle]

I had to effect a repair to a running board on a van that had been driven into a curb and tore the rubber "skin" away from the extruded aluminum running board.
After a failed attempt using "PlioBond" ( http://www.acehardware.com/product/..._clickid=109c892d-f004-4d02-abb5-7162fadb166a ) which was formulated by Goodyear for the US Army during the Korean War, and has never failed for me yet gluing rubber to metal or cloth to cloth (repairing lawnmower bags), I was directed to a product made by 3M for installing windshields, 08609 Black Urethane Windshield Adhesive ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FW61EW/?tag=atomicindus08-20 )
After sanding the aluminum running board to put a tooth on it, I wiped it (and the back side of the rubber skin) down with lacquer thinner and glued it back into place with the 3M adhesive.
It did hold it in place, until the van owner drove the van into a bigger curb at a higher rate of speed, which required replacement of the running board.

I am not sure if it would hold under a load. The rubber skin on that running board was just window dressing.
It took a full month before I finally got the last of it off my hands and out from underneath my fingernails (after washing them several times with lacquer thinner.)

YMMV.

 

[rockettgpw]

See if you can locate some Rema Tip Top SC 2000 ( same people that make tyre patches) it is used to bond rubber surface to conveyor belt drive drums and join conveyor belt. Its a two pack industrial grade compound. Not likely to fail until the walls of the trailer rust away.

 

[Hybridss]

SCOTCH WELD 1300:

http://www.rshughes.com/p/3M-Neoprene-High-Performance-1300-Rubber-Gasket-Adhesive-Yellow-Liquid-1-Qt-Can-19871/021200_19871/?gclid=Cj0KEQiA25rFBRC8rfyX1vjeg7YBEiQAFIb3b5CQLiP1KVLdGv4EtVcqWo0Sb9lDNav2uD4SnOss7wIaAs8b8P8HAQ&utm_source=rshgs&utm_campaign=gs_021200-19871&s_kwcid=AL!4414!3!163902854283!!!s!275007360852!&ef_id=VSKSSQAABDOFXXii:20170217230211:s


DATASHEET:

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/66251O/neoprene-hi-perf-rubber-gasket-adh-1300-1300l.pdf

yes 1300L

 

[ard]

I'd call Loctite or Sika and have a conversation, get a recommendation.

The technical app guys do this day in and day out, and probably have a dozen "rubber mats bonded to steel" projects under their belts...

I will need to redo my mats on the walls of our 3 horse Exiss... At least in the forward position where the idiot is loaded...

 

[Socket Pounder]

When I worked at Kenworth we used 3M spray adhesive to stick rubber to metal. They make different types depending on how permanent you want it to be, it's basically a spray contact cement. Anyway we'd spray both surfaces and when they got tacky, slap 'em together. Never seen one come off.