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Conductor562

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Haha, well damn Conductor562... Ya converted me!

I'm beginning to think you patented the clik-stop and are receiving royalties!


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No patent royalties here. The Clik-Stop first appeared in the latter part of the Pendleton era (around 1959). Way before Conductor's time. I bought a set a couple years ago and after laying under a sink a few times and not having to re-adjust, I found myself wishing I'd gotten them years ago.

ChevyEFI: It works by way or small teeth at the base of the knurled wheel that lock into place against perforations on the wrench body. They're pretty slick.

You could identify the old Clik-Stops by a gold knurled wheel, but they haven't done that for years.
 
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No. If "good enough" is for you, rock on man. And plus, a cheap tool doesn't last.
A GOOD tool takes a beating, and although it may not LOOK good it functions fine. You can be hard on a tool, and still not ABUSE it
I know what I think but am always interested in what others think and how we come to the conclusions we do and at what point the sale is made.
I came here looking at a hoist and to glean a few ideas and in the end really found the hand tools the most fascinating. I don't have a single question about what wrench or what plier to outfit a journeyman gang box for one of the trades, I got a Proro I started with when I was 18 and didn't have several to split the maintenance load like I do today so it got used hard in several states. Its probably committed felonies.
I cant tell it from the others anymore but it works just like it always did just like that cheap china in one of the pics abo0ve over the big nut. That one survived a couple tours in Ironworker gang boxes and comes back just like it left.
The constant worry about wear and breakage is pitiful. Its great for marketing. Its a ********* and smart tool companies are doing well. These opinions are often drastically different than actual reality and magnified to the extreme by this bunch of polishers.
My real expertise in life is using this tool, its telling others to use it, beating the **** out of it on oilfield and hi rise and Jonny aviation comes along and has to ask,,,, which wrench cause he is such a hard *** on a couple airplane parts validates a lot of my own opinion,, everyone thinks they are a hard *** golden arm.
What I can say from actually owning a couple boxes of stuff in what is probably only slightly less brutal than oil patch that all this don't mean a pinch of sheet. I boiught one or 2 things that didn't work as good as they should, I went down all the best route too but reality hadnt proved out that it was the best choice. I got 1$ cheap screwdriver from 30 yrs still in the works every day and some Kliens seen their better days.
Broke a HF breaker bar,,, one of my guys did with a pipe taller than he is, we replace at the time a few sockets with sk and warrant a couple dozen Sears out of 500 or more and the new ones have been great.
A Snappy might be stress tested,,,???,, but a good share of the Sears were right out of the box faulty.
 
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I know what I think but am always interested in what others think and how we come to the conclusions we do and at what point the sale is made.

I came here looking at a hoist and to glean a few ideas and in the end really found the hand tools the most fascinating. I don't have a single question about what wrench or what plier to outfit a journeyman gang box for one of the trades, I got a Proro I started with when I was 18 and didn't have several to split the maintenance load like I do today so it got used hard in several states. Its probably committed felonies.

I cant tell it from the others anymore but it works just like it always did just like that cheap china in one of the pics abo0ve over the big nut. That one survived a couple tours in Ironworker gang boxes and comes back just like it left.

The constant worry about wear and breakage is pitiful. Its great for marketing. Its a ********* and smart tool companies are doing well. These opinions are often drastically different than actual reality and magnified to the extreme by this bunch of polishers.

My real expertise in life is using this tool, its telling others to use it, beating the **** out of it on oilfield and hi rise and Jonny aviation comes along and has to ask,,,, which wrench cause he is such a hard *** on a couple airplane parts validates a lot of my own opinion,, everyone thinks they are a hard *** golden arm.

What I can say from actually owning a couple boxes of stuff in what is probably only slightly less brutal than oil patch that all this don't mean a pinch of sheet. I boiught one or 2 things that didn't work as good as they should, I went down all the best route too but reality hadnt proved out that it was the best choice. I got 1$ cheap screwdriver from 30 yrs still in the works every day and some Kliens seen their better days.

Broke a HF breaker bar,,, one of my guys did with a pipe taller than he is, we replace at the time a few sockets with sk and warrant a couple dozen Sears out of 500 or more and the new ones have been great.

A Snappy might be stress tested,,,???,, but a good share of the Sears were right out of the box faulty.


Check it out man...

Your opinion is valued by plenty I'm sure, myself included. No one is doubting your experience or competence in tool usage, and no one is going to object to the tools you select to do your job.

The fact of the matter is you came to MY thread, where I was asking about recommendations for what current choices there are for a UNITED STATES made adjustable wrenches with additional criteria.

You recommended a non-US made product. I clearly stated that is not an option.

Lastly, "Johnny Aviation" here ain't working on a Piper or a Cessna. I don't question your trade expertise, so maybe don't try and pretend you understand aviation.

I'm a rotorcraft guy - specifically military rotorcraft. If you had an ounce of experience with that, you'd understand the type of tooling required to install a "Jesus Nut" on an AH-64, a non-rotating swash plate on a CH-47, or a bifilar on a UH-60.

You mentioned my reference to "long hour" workdays earlier... Well brother I'll tell you that I LIVED with my tools 24/7 for 12-15 months at a time... And I did that 5 times. 14-16 hours a day easily, and "going home" was pushing my toolbox under my cot and going to sleep on that same hanger floor.

In my line of work, tool breakage and wear worry are EVERYTHING... Maintaining a heavy battalions worth of helicopters at an 80% operational readiness rate in a combat zone is the difference between ground pounders having air support within minutes, having a medevac/dustoff bird able to get a boy off the field and to a field hospital, or getting food and ammunition to a desolate outpost when the convoy routes are shut down for long periods of time waiting for engineers to clear IEDs.

I've seen what happens first hand when the tools break. The bird can't fly until we get replacements.TICs (Troops In Contact) are the ones that pay the price.

I'm glad that your tool choices work for you in your journeyman/iron workers gangbox. But in this case, what works for you, doesn't fit the bill for me.

"Polisher" - no sir. In the place that I cut my teeth, YOUR the one considered to be doing the mundane maintenance.

Thanks for your input. I hope to learn something from you on another thread.


~Tejaas~

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for the record i am fundamentally opposed to adjustable wrenches.


Haha, I can understand that completely.

I view them as a "guilty pleasure"... Try and prevent using them, but sometimes they can't be beat!

My repair manuals will spell to the LETTER what manufacturers adhesive is to be used on a velcro strip on a seat cushion, and in-detail specify tool platings required for certain task....

But then will RECOMMEND a one-size-fits-all adjustable wrench to completely remove a directional servo linked to a tail rotor gearbox!

Damn you, Boeing and Sikorsky!




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I was in a class 8 truck shop a while back, half a dozen young guys driving out a paycheck. About 2 yrs ago they got together and pressured the boss to get some tools or pay up and he went to HF and spent a couple grand a couple years ago and it doesn't look like a pile of broke tools everywhere, the guy commented,,, almost nothing. Worked like moist other wrenches and sockets.
That is proof for lack of better wording so when I hear busted knuckles every time I turn a wrench I can pretty much assume its an operator error until really proven otherwise.
 
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Check it out man...

Your opinion is valued by plenty I'm sure, myself included. No one is doubting your experience or competence in tool usage, and no one is going to object to the tools you select to do your job.

The fact of the matter is you came to MY thread, where I was asking about recommendations for what current choices there are for a UNITED STATES made adjustable wrenches with additional criteria.

You recommended a non-US made product. I clearly stated that is not an option.

Lastly, "Johnny Aviation" here ain't working on a Piper or a Cessna. I don't question your trade expertise, so maybe don't try and pretend you understand aviation.

I'm a rotorcraft guy - specifically military rotorcraft. If you had an ounce of experience with that, you'd understand the type of tooling required to install a "Jesus Nut" on an AH-64, a non-rotating swash plate on a CH-47, or a bifilar on a UH-60.

You mentioned my reference to "long hour" workdays earlier... Well brother I'll tell you that I LIVED with my tools 24/7 for 12-15 months at a time... And I did that 5 times. 14-16 hours a day easily, and "going home" was pushing my toolbox under my cot and going to sleep on that same hanger floor.

In my line of work, tool breakage and wear worry are EVERYTHING... Maintaining a heavy battalions worth of helicopters at an 80% operational readiness rate in a combat zone is the difference between ground pounders having air support within minutes, having a medevac/dustoff bird able to get a boy off the field and to a field hospital, or getting food and ammunition to a desolate outpost when the convoy routes are shut down for long periods of time waiting for engineers to clear IEDs.

I've seen what happens first hand when the tools break. The bird can't fly until we get replacements.TICs (Troops In Contact) are the ones that pay the price.

I'm glad that your tool choices work for you in your journeyman/iron workers gangbox. But in this case, what works for you, doesn't fit the bill for me.

"Polisher" - no sir. In the place that I cut my teeth, YOUR the one considered to be doing the mundane maintenance.

Thanks for your input. I hope to learn something from you on another thread.


~Tejaas~

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Says the greatest post in ever :bow:
 
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I really appreciate all the input I have received here in regards to replacing my old wrenches.

I'm going to go with the Proto adjustables, and am going to give the Clik-stop models a try at Conductor562's recommendation.

Again, thanks to everyone for their guidance!




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Now we know some background vs "what is the best wrench question" But,,,, will almost bet the reason something doesn't move or fly isn't a busted hand tool.
 
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Now we know some background vs "what is the best wrench question" But,,,, will almost bet the reason something doesn't move or fly isn't a busted hand tool.


I've tried to be polite but your just being a nuisance now.

This was never about "what's the best wrench".... Read the first damned post again!

There was never a need to provide any "background" as I had placed my desired criteria.

Nobody else had any comprehension issues except you.

I have already thanked everybody for their participation, and stated that I came to a decision based on input... And your still posting asinine ****.

And on top of that, YET AGAIN... Your talking out of your ***. Your "betting" on something you have no idea about or experience with.

I don't believe in being rude... But I do believe in giving credit where it is due.

Congratulations, your an idiot.




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Sorry about hurting your feelings,,, it just sounded like a weekend warrior kind of question. Especially when we got to the chipping and hammering part. Some things you just got to find out where they go. I learned something on a couple fronts from this thread.
 

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I've tried to be polite but your just being a nuisance now.

This was never about "what's the best wrench".... Read the first damned post again!

There was never a need to provide any "background" as I had placed my desired criteria.

Nobody else had any comprehension issues except you.

I have already thanked everybody for their participation, and stated that I came to a decision based on input... And your still posting asinine ****.

And on top of that, YET AGAIN... Your talking out of your ***. Your "betting" on something you have no idea about or experience with.

I don't believe in being rude... But I do believe in giving credit where it is due.

Congratulations, your an idiot.




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He likes cheap **** and advocates cheap ****, it is what it is.

The effort and care put in by the specialists in the back shops and on the flight line plays a major part in those fixed and rotary wing aircraft being able to have an on or above target sortie rate. Which translates into men or women being able to enjoy letters from home, their next meal, a CASEVAC flight, or CSAR mission.

While a bumpkin who has apparently worked everything from iron to pipe to the oil patch may think that caring about corrosion on fasteners or quality tools isn't a big deal there are a lot of people who do appreciate your attention to detail.

(FYI, Cripe Distributing on Ebay has new old stock USA made Crescents in stock.)
 
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He likes cheap **** and advocates cheap ****, it is what it is.

The effort and care put in by the specialists in the back shops and on the flight line plays a major part in those fixed and rotary wing aircraft being able to have an on or above target sortie rate. Which translates into men or women being able to enjoy letters from home, their next meal, a CASEVAC flight, or CSAR mission.

While a bumpkin who has apparently worked everything from iron to pipe to the oil patch may think that caring about corrosion on fasteners or quality tools isn't a big deal there are a lot of people who do appreciate your attention to detail.

(FYI, Cripe Distributing on Ebay has new old stock USA made Crescents in stock.)


I like your class, sir.

Thanks for the tip on the crescent wrenches too!


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