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Shopping for a 4 post lift for my shop. I know there's tons of threads on here about lifts, but I am looking for a little more specific info / feedback.

I've been looking at a lot of lifts, but seem honing in on the below lifts. Also plan to get the rolling bridge jack option (manual jack if available).

Advantage Lifts 9000-XLT = (outside-outside runway 75" - 79")
Advantage Lifts 11000-DW = (outside-outside runway 85")
Wildfire 9000-XLT = (outside-outside runway 76")

Will use the lift for general maintenance on my F-250 crew cab short bed, sons 2500HD extended cab short bed, wife’s Tahoe, Yukon, and both my boys project cars, a ‘70 Duster and a ‘79 Corvette. I could maybe see parking one of the project cars under the lift if needed, but prob never one of the trucks / SUVs. The lift will be in our 40x60 shop (not the home garage) and there's plenty room in there. I don’t own a diesel and no plans to, so I think 9000# should be fine. I suspect my truck is the heaviest of our vehicles at 6,640#.

What's rubbing me is the outside-outside runway widths. Our tucks / SUV's are 77-78" track widths and I can't wrap my head around having the tires hang off the edge of the runways. Due to that, the Wildfire is likely off the table as an option. The Advantage 9000-XLT would need to have the one runway moved to the wider holes, but that shifts the truck over to one side of the lift.

Sounds like I’ll have to fold the mirrors in to get on/off all the lifts. They all 3 go to 82” high clearance, so should be able to get any of the vehicles under it, if ever needed.

For those of you on here that own either of these three lifts, and use them with similar trucks / SUV's, what's been your experience with the track width concerns I have? Also, how well do the 9000 lifts do with big trucks? For those of you who may have the runway moved out to wider position, how's that working out?

Disclaimer - I don't have any interest in a 2 post lift. The fact my teen boys will be using it, makes a hard no on a 2 post.
 
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Shopping for a 4 post lift for my shop. I know there's tons of threads on here about lifts, but I am looking for a little more specific info / feedback.

I've been looking at a lot of lifts, but seem honing in on the below lifts. Also plan to get the rolling bridge jack option (manual jack if available).

Advantage Lifts 9000-XLT = (outside-outside runway 75" - 79")
Advantage Lifts 11000-DW = (outside-outside runway 85")
Wildfire 9000-XLT = (outside-outside runway 76")

Will use the lift for general maintenance on my F-250 crew cab short bed, sons 2500HD extended cab short bed, wife’s Tahoe, Yukon, and both my boys project cars, a ‘70 Duster and a ‘79 Corvette. I could maybe see parking one of the project cars under the lift if needed, but prob never one of the trucks / SUVs. The lift will be in our 40x60 shop (not the home garage) and there's plenty room in there. I don’t own a diesel and no plans to, so I think 9000# should be fine. I suspect my truck is the heaviest of our vehicles at 6,640#.

What's rubbing me is the outside-outside runway widths. Our tucks / SUV's are 77-78" track widths and I can't wrap my head around having the tires hang off the edge of the runways. Due to that, the Wildfire is likely off the table as an option. The Advantage 9000-XLT would need to have the one runway moved to the wider holes, but that shifts the truck over to one side of the lift.

Sounds like I’ll have to fold the mirrors in to get on/off all the lifts. They all 3 go to 82” high clearance, so should be able to get any of the vehicles under it, if ever needed.

For those of you on here that own either of these three lifts, and use them with similar trucks / SUV's, what's been your experience with the track width concerns I have? Also, how well do the 9000 lifts do with big trucks? For those of you who may have the runway moved out to wider position, how's that working out?

Disclaimer - I don't have any interest in a 2 post lift. The fact my teen boys will be using it, makes a hard no on a 2 post.
I bought the 9k xlt biggest vehicle i put on it is my crew cab Silverado I dont have to fold mirrors but did move ramp to outer specs, Don't see any issues with that.tires are at the edge but don't hang over. It is a well-built unit. If you use the wider position the drip trays are too narrow, you have to widen them, my only complaint. Depending where you live you can save quite a bit on shipping picking up at a warehouse/
 

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I have both the 9000 xlt and the 11000 Lb Advantage lifts. Bought the 11000 specifically to fit my crew cab lab dually and the 9000 xlt for the extra height for a long term project car.

THE 9000 XLT is set wide, and I have no issues with that.

The runway ramps and aluminum approach ramps are heavier and more robust on the 11 k, and it’s heavier so harder to handle during assembly. The 9000 motor is 120v but can be reconfiinured to 240v. The 11k motor is 240v.

The 11k isn’t certified if that’s important to you. Ramp stops aren’t as nice on the 11k, but that’s not an issue. The footprint of the 11k is obviously larger.

Both of mine are 18 months old and have performed flawlessly.
 
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I have the exact situation as you. 40x60, F250, Advantage lift. I did have to move the runway, however no issues with the truck or the lift. As stated your drip pans and the aluminum inserts will no longer work without modifications. My truck has different front coils and shocks and now is over the height to be able to park it fully underneath the lift. The lift is built like a tank and could not be happier with the choice to go with advantage.

I have a dedicated circuit for the lift, I did this to previous owners having issues.

I have automatic mirrors and yes they need to be folded in to use the lift. I installed a mirror and it is a great addition and works perfectly when I need to drive any vehicle on or off the lift.

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I have the Advantage DX 9000 XLT and an F250 reg cab long bed. The runways are in the narrow position, and so putting the truck on it requires precision, as each tire will overhang by 1”. I had originally planned to widen the ramps using 2-1/2” angle bolted to each runway, but then steel prices shot up and I had other priorities. (This modification is described in a thread here on GJ).

I did once drive my truck off the side of the runway while putting it on. It was really no big deal, as the runways sit only about 3-1/2” off the floor. I simply took the ramp from that side and positioned it next to the runway facing “backwards” so as I backed up, turning the wheels slightly, the tire that slipped off rose back up onto the runway. I then replaced the ramp to its original position and drove forward again.

I couldn’t be happier with the stability, performance, and usefulness of the lift. I have considered shifting the runway to widen it, but am concerned that it’d then be more challenging to use for our other vehicles, including my Model A and our John Deere Gator.
 

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I have the exact situation as you. 40x60, F250, Advantage lift. I did have to move the runway, however no issues with the truck or the lift. As stated your drip pans and the aluminum inserts will no longer work without modifications. My truck has different front coils and shocks and now is over the height to be able to park it fully underneath the lift. The lift is built like a tank and could not be happier with the choice to go with advantage.

I have a dedicated circuit for the lift, I did this to previous owners having issues.

I have automatic mirrors and yes they need to be folded in to use the lift. I installed a mirror and it is a great addition and works perfectly when I need to drive any vehicle on or off the lift.

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I need to install a mirror, what size did you install?
 
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You guys that have the runway shifted to the widest position, did you do it on driver or passenger side, and does it make for a tighter squeeze on that side of the truck and post / cables?
 

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Right side. The wide position just makes clearance between the runway and column equal on both sides.

My 36 Ford coupe is up there now with the runways set to wide. The tires crowd the inner edge a little, but it’s not an issue with that small car. It does have circa 1965 aluminum wheels that undoubtedly have more offset than the 4“ or 5” wide 1936 wheels, though.
 

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Don't have a Gator but have 3 street rod vehicles all fairly narrow width wise, no issues with the wider setting, also wife's Pacifica fits fine
 
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You can only move the runway on one side. The side with no cylinders or cables running under it.
Yeah, that’s what I was trying to understand.
(I’ve not seen the lift in person so could be wrong)

Normal the runways are 75”. The truck pulls onto the lift, and the trucks tires hang over the edges of each runway.

The “dead” runway is moved to the wide position to make the runways 79”. The truck pulls onto the lift 2” to that side so the tires are centered on the runways without hanging over the edge.

I would think that puts the truck 2” closer to the posts / cables on that side (?). Does that make getting on/off the lift a little tight clearance on that side (?) and if so, do guys orient the lift so that tight clearance is on the driver or passenger side?
 

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Here are some measurements I just did.

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The runway that was adjusted to the outside holes
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Thanks for those pics!!!!! Really helps to "see" it.

So the right side on your lift looks like a tighter clearance between your truck (if it was on the lift) and the posts / cables. Does it present any issues removing the tires on that side?
 

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Thanks for those pics!!!!! Really helps to "see" it.

So the right side on your lift looks like a tighter clearance between your truck (if it was on the lift) and the posts / cables. Does it present any issues removing the tires on that side?
I haven't done a tire rotation yet, but I can't see where it would be a problem.....................plenty of clearance once the truck is up on the runways. There is a ton of room on the sides for access.

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THANK YOU guys!!!!!! for all those pics. That’s great.

Think the 9000-XLT will fit the bill. Me and the boys are gonna have to reconfigure the shop to make a dedicated bay for the lift.
 

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Another XLT-9000 owner here.

My K2500 big block powered Suburban (it's heavy) fits just fine with the ramps on the narrower configuration. I have 14' sidewalls in my building and can lift my '49 GMC all the way to the top locks and park my Suburban underneath. I'm 6'3" and can walk under the entire lift including the aluminum ramps at droop.

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Another XLT-9000 owner here.

My K2500 big block powered Suburban (it's heavy) fits just fine with the ramps on the narrower configuration. I have 14' sidewalls in my building and can lift my '49 GMC all the way to the top locks and park my Suburban underneath. I'm 6'3" and can walk under the entire lift including the aluminum ramps at droop.

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Looks like the tires are hanging over the edge of the ramps, though, which is the concern some posters have voiced, and which is why there Is an optional wide position.
 

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I need to install a mirror, what size did you install?
That's interesting, though I'd bet after using the lift a few times you wouldn't need it.

When I worked in a shop, it didn't take many days on the job to be able to get cars on the 4 posts and 2 posts lifts in teh right spot without needing a spotter or having to get out.
 

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Looks like the tires are hanging over the edge of the ramps, though, which is the concern some posters have voiced, and which is why there Is an optional wide position.

Maybe an inch, nothing that is concerning. It fits all of my vehicles just fine as it is. We are talking less than half of the outer tread block. It's not going anywhere.
 

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That's interesting, though I'd bet after using the lift a few times you wouldn't need it.

When I worked in a shop, it didn't take many days on the job to be able to get cars on the 4 posts and 2 posts lifts in teh right spot without needing a spotter or having to get out.
If nothing else, it's reassuring. I use mine every time I pull a on/off the lift, even though I have a pretty good feel for where the runways are. Us home-users aren't pulling 10+ cars on/off every day of the week, too.

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If nothing else, it's reassuring. I use mine every time I pull a on/off the lift, even though I have a pretty good feel for where the runways are. Us home-users aren't pulling 10+ cars on/off every day of the week, too.

True, though you are probably pulling in the same half dozen vehicles more often than not, vs 10 a day that range from Ford Festiva with wheel barrow sized tires to crew cab ******* bed duallies... with campers on them.
 

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That's interesting, though I'd bet after using the lift a few times you wouldn't need it.

When I worked in a shop, it didn't take many days on the job to be able to get cars on the 4 posts and 2 posts lifts in teh right spot without needing a spotter or having to get out.
I pretty much pick a reference and drive up, just thinking would be good to see if I am squared up on a wider stance
 
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Anyone know if Advantage Lifts do Black Friday discounts? Kinda hoping they do.....
 
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Got the Black Friday email from them…..and it’s the same $1,000 - $1,500 off 2-post lifts deal that has been popping up on their webpage for several weeks now. LAME
 

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Looking at this lift as well, or an HD-9. Left my Direct Lift in the last house, and now I'm setting a new garage. Anyway, is the "sale" price listed on Advantage's site a special for this weekend only, or is that price ordinarily available?

BTW, thanks to those that posted up the detailed pictures; really helpful!
 
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Called to order a lift today but they don’t have the manual rolling jack in stock. Should be in stock within 2 weeks he said. Looking forward my next oil change. Hoping I can have the lift to undercoat our vehicles with fluid film before weather turns and they start salting / spraying the roads around here. Doing that while laying under the truck *****.
 
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Got a text today that they got the jacks in stock. Called and placed the order. Said I should get the shipping info next week, hopefully it doesn’t jack up Christmas plans / travel.

Been working for a couple weeks on rearranging my shop to make room for the lift. Looking forward to using it.
 
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I know it’s Christmas Eve and all, but if one of you guys get a chance the next few days, could you tell me the measurements of the two items in the pic?

1) the width of the power unit arm
2) the mounting bolt spread

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My lift isn’t here yet, but I’d like to be able to order parts to have when I am putting the lift together.

Basically I want the ability to rotate the power unit to either side of the column as needed.

Two ideas I have are either mounting a swivel plate between the post cap and the power unit arm, like below

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Or drilling a center hole in both pieces (red circles in pic), bolt them together with a singe 1/2” (?) bolt, with sheet of UHMV sandwiched between them for the power unit arm to pivot on.

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I’m a couple thousand miles away from my lifts now, so I can’t help, but the power head and tank full of oil are fairly heavy, so there would be quite a moment when mounted to that bearing.

Not sure the relatively stiff hoses will have enough slack to move through an arc without loading the hose ends, either.

Good luck anyway.
 
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Picked the lift up this evening. Hope to put it together this weekend. The trailer I rented was not ideal, WAY too little tongue weight, I’d definitely recommend to anyone a trailer with the wheels farther to the rear. Got off the interstate soon as I could for the back roads.

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Yup. Trailer axles are too far forward. I recall that the cg of the lift isn’t exactly in the center of the packaging either. The large, light weight reservoir is towards the front.

it would have helped your weight distribution issue with that trailer had you flipped the load end for end.

At least you made it home safely.
 
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