Zeke
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^^^What I was thinking too unless they were using a specific layout like OVE. There you have to put the studs under the trusses no matter what.
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Advice Needed on 8x8 Shed Construction
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FordTruckWench
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This sounds like a framing issue, not foundation. Easy fix to offset stud layout if the framer was paying attention.
The studs possibly needed to be in certain positions to match the sheathing edges. Anyway, the wall where I noticed this is a kitchen and there are four windows side by side. Well, correction, there are three windows side by side at minimum spacing (jack-king-jack studs I think), and a fourth with an extra two inches of spacing due to an interior wall. The window irregularity looks horrid from outside.
The roof framing on this house is all stick built. It is a crazy mix of hip and gable. And the builders got the pitch wrong on one piece.
Those are called precut studs for an 8' wall. There are also precut studs for 9' walls.Here on the west coast, studs are 92 1/4" long.
K'ledgeBldr
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Here on the west coast, studs are 92 1/4" long.
Are you sure about that?
The “industry standard” is 92-5/8” for “8 foot” walls; and 104-5/8” for “9 foot” walls.
Then again, left coast is weird about everything!
southalabama
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As a reminder stated dimensions of products are not always exact dimensions. In fact they seldom are. As mentioned above industry standards vary. The industry standard on lumber has changed over the years. A 2x4 has shrunk over time.
Don’t over think an 8x8 shed.
Don’t over think an 8x8 shed.
mike93lx
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A 2x4 hasn't shrunk over time though. We generally switched from using rough sawn to planed in construction about 80 years ago. Since then, it's been basically the same. Industry standard for a 2x4 is 1.5x3.5 and no one would argue that.As a reminder stated dimensions of products are not always exact dimensions. In fact they seldom are. As mentioned above industry standards vary. The industry standard on lumber has changed over the years. A 2x4 has shrunk over time.
Don’t over think an 8x8 shed.
The starting point for the board is basically the same. Planed makes handling and finishing nicer.
southalabama
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Standard 2x4 wasn’t agreed upon till the early 1960’s.
Perhaps a bad example but the OP is so concerned about exact dimensions on an 8x8 shed I wanted him to know trade sizes may not be actual sizes. So he needs to verify and calculate accordingly.
Perhaps a bad example but the OP is so concerned about exact dimensions on an 8x8 shed I wanted him to know trade sizes may not be actual sizes. So he needs to verify and calculate accordingly.
Zeke
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Yep, 92 1/4. Been that way all my construction life which started in the 1960's.Are you sure about that?
The “industry standard” is 92-5/8” for “8 foot” walls; and 104-5/8” for “9 foot” walls.
Then again, left coast is weird about everything!
southalabama
Well-known member
All of these posts makes the point (I think) the OP should take heed since he’s so worried about exacting dimensions. 8’ studs aren’t 8’. 2x4’s are 2x4. So he needs to plan accordingly.
mike93lx
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This mixing of terminology doesn't help. A stud isn't 8', but a 2x4x8 is 8'.All of these posts makes the point (I think) the OP should take heed since he’s so worried about exacting dimensions. 8’ studs aren’t 8’. 2x4’s are 2x4. So he needs to plan accordingly.
I don't fault him at all for being exacting. You have to experience some of this first hand to know where you can be rough and where precision matters. And trying to be as precise as possible can help errors from compounding and ending up in a spot where the error is so bad that you don't know how to correct
Sorry y'all, didn't notice notifications that people were still replying to this thread!
As stated, dimensions aren't a huge deal to me, and I'm fully aware that a 2x4 isn't actually 2"x4", and stud length lumber isn't exactly 8' long. Stud length does not matter because this shed will have 7' walls at the top of the double top plate, so I'll be cutting all of the studs to length anyway. I'm not a novice woodworker by any means, but I just haven't framed a building that requires a relatively watertight envelope. I'll admit, I know I'm overthinking things, and at the end of the day this is just a small garden shed.
As mike93lx mentioned above, I do like to be as precise as possible when cutting lumber. Tolerance stacking is a thing no matter what you're making, and it's really easy to get within 1/16" on my miter saw.
I'm going to document my shed build in this thread and continue to ask any other questions here so as not to make a bunch of new topics. I think with the ideas y'all have given me, I can now design a relatively water tight arrangement where the shed meets the slab. Thanks for all the input!
As stated, dimensions aren't a huge deal to me, and I'm fully aware that a 2x4 isn't actually 2"x4", and stud length lumber isn't exactly 8' long. Stud length does not matter because this shed will have 7' walls at the top of the double top plate, so I'll be cutting all of the studs to length anyway. I'm not a novice woodworker by any means, but I just haven't framed a building that requires a relatively watertight envelope. I'll admit, I know I'm overthinking things, and at the end of the day this is just a small garden shed.
As mike93lx mentioned above, I do like to be as precise as possible when cutting lumber. Tolerance stacking is a thing no matter what you're making, and it's really easy to get within 1/16" on my miter saw.
I'm going to document my shed build in this thread and continue to ask any other questions here so as not to make a bunch of new topics. I think with the ideas y'all have given me, I can now design a relatively water tight arrangement where the shed meets the slab. Thanks for all the input!
mike93lx
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I'd start a new thread....people don't read the whole thing and you'll get endless new comments about how you are wasting your time on precisionSorry y'all, didn't notice notifications that people were still replying to this thread!
As stated, dimensions aren't a huge deal to me, and I'm fully aware that a 2x4 isn't actually 2"x4", and stud length lumber isn't exactly 8' long. Stud length does not matter because this shed will have 7' walls at the top of the double top plate, so I'll be cutting all of the studs to length anyway. I'm not a novice woodworker by any means, but I just haven't framed a building that requires a relatively watertight envelope. I'll admit, I know I'm overthinking things, and at the end of the day this is just a small garden shed.
As mike93lx mentioned above, I do like to be as precise as possible when cutting lumber. Tolerance stacking is a thing no matter what you're making, and it's really easy to get within 1/16" on my miter saw.
I'm going to document my shed build in this thread and continue to ask any other questions here so as not to make a bunch of new topics. I think with the ideas y'all have given me, I can now design a relatively water tight arrangement where the shed meets the slab. Thanks for all the input!