Advice on a quote for my floor
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strength_and_power
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Warranty and warranty specifics. Is the warranty on the material alone or does it include the labor as well.
How many coats will be applied? Total thickness?
I’d be comfortable with a quote along the lines of
Description of work:
Diamond grind / prep floor for expo y coating
Apply epoxy coating to a thickness of X.
Clean up and removal of trash etc.
Responsibility of shop owner:
Provide free and clear access. All items must be removed from floor ( or specific area)
Floor May not be walked on for X amount of time
Warranty: materials covered for X
Labor is included/ not included under warranty
Payment terms
How many coats will be applied? Total thickness?
I’d be comfortable with a quote along the lines of
Description of work:
Diamond grind / prep floor for expo y coating
Apply epoxy coating to a thickness of X.
Clean up and removal of trash etc.
Responsibility of shop owner:
Provide free and clear access. All items must be removed from floor ( or specific area)
Floor May not be walked on for X amount of time
Warranty: materials covered for X
Labor is included/ not included under warranty
Payment terms
gatewaysysop
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Based purely on the number of horror stories on this board, and availability heuristic aside, you might want to have them clearly spell out what happens if they royally @#$% up. If it still reeks and off-gasses months later, or any number of other things that commonly go wrong, what's the resolution and their responsibility? Sorry but I wouldn't want to be stuck in the middle of "I installed it right, the product is to blame," vs. "My product is fine, the installer just @#$%ed up," and be left holding the bag and unable to use the space. If people aren't willing to spell out their obligations in such a scenario, maybe find more accountable people to work with.
For 1600 square feet, you are getting one heck of a deal, about $3 a square foot. I agree that the invoice looks very light on the details, but in my experience with home services has little to do with the quality of work. Some of the best work at times is no paperwork. Too much glossy paperwork and over detailed invoices usually means not the best work for me.
Have you seen the guys previous work? Also at that price I'd like to understand how much actual product they will be applying.
Also, I don't think Macropoxy 646 is a floor coating, is it?
Have you seen the guys previous work? Also at that price I'd like to understand how much actual product they will be applying.
Also, I don't think Macropoxy 646 is a floor coating, is it?
Andy Smith Jr.
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That's way too cheap for a quality floor. If its solid color they need to use pigmented urethane on top. Clear urethanes will allow UV to pass through and change color. This looks like a quote from someone who is desperate to make a quick $. I'd get at least 2-3 more quotes.
Macropoxy can be used on floors but i'd never use it as a standalone coating.
paulsomlo
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Do yourself a favor - just slap some more paint on it. It's amazing how many of these fancy garage floor installs go bad.
gatewaysysop
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Yep. I know there's bias in how often we hear horror stories rather than success stories. I'm sure that for every botched install there's tons that go off without a hitch. Even so, these things can go sideways too easily even with professionals doing the install. There's also a common theme of everyone blaming everybody else involved when that happens. For the hassle involved in mitigating a @#$% up with a floor coating install, there's no way I would touch it with a failure rate like this.
Call me crazy, but even a 1% chance that it stinks for several months and/or has to be ripped out and re-installed (assuming anyone takes responsibility, which they might not) is a hard pass as far as I'm concerned. The money is better spent elsewhere and life is too short for that **** and the stress that goes with it.
I thought it was cheap also. I have about 1600 ft.² and I paid $8000 last year.
As others have rightfully pointed out your quote is seriously lacking in detail. At the low end 1,600sf2 a professionally applied coating should be closer to $10K especially given that there are three coats of paint (as opposed to epoxy) which will need to be completely removed.
I also need to mention that we've been supplying Wolverine Coatings and instruction her on GJ for 10 years now and my brother did so for 5 years before that. We've serviced hundreds of DIY customers and I have not had any situations where a floor coating had to be ripped out and replaced nor had a floor stink for several months (one of the many benefits of going with a 100% solids epoxy). I read the posts and have seen the horror stories but just have to say, if you pick a quality product (there are many here), are able to read and follow directions AND you take the time to contact us with any questions that you may have, you will NOT have any issues. I'm guesstimating here but I'd say 90% of the issues reported had to do with "professionally" installed polyurea/polyaspartic coatings that ended up NOT being "professionally" installed. That's not to say we've never had a customer make a mistake in applying our products, that has happened, but we've always been able to get them straightened out and on their way. Again, IF you are able to read and follow directions....
I also need to mention that we've been supplying Wolverine Coatings and instruction her on GJ for 10 years now and my brother did so for 5 years before that. We've serviced hundreds of DIY customers and I have not had any situations where a floor coating had to be ripped out and replaced nor had a floor stink for several months (one of the many benefits of going with a 100% solids epoxy). I read the posts and have seen the horror stories but just have to say, if you pick a quality product (there are many here), are able to read and follow directions AND you take the time to contact us with any questions that you may have, you will NOT have any issues. I'm guesstimating here but I'd say 90% of the issues reported had to do with "professionally" installed polyurea/polyaspartic coatings that ended up NOT being "professionally" installed. That's not to say we've never had a customer make a mistake in applying our products, that has happened, but we've always been able to get them straightened out and on their way. Again, IF you are able to read and follow directions....
I concur with AlphaGarage... if you can follow instructions you can do it yourself.
The one mistake I made was my floor is fairly large (not 1600 sq feet) and by the time I went to throw down flakes on the part I started the topcoat on it had dried... which sucked.. had to go back after everything cured and hand spread some areas.
Other than that it's not that complicated.
The horror stories you are reading about, I would be willing to bet those contractors are using thinning agents to get more floors out of the product which causes curing issues... which is what you usually read about here.
Either that or they literally can't follow step-by-step instructions which doesn't seem likely.
The one mistake I made was my floor is fairly large (not 1600 sq feet) and by the time I went to throw down flakes on the part I started the topcoat on it had dried... which sucked.. had to go back after everything cured and hand spread some areas.
Other than that it's not that complicated.
The horror stories you are reading about, I would be willing to bet those contractors are using thinning agents to get more floors out of the product which causes curing issues... which is what you usually read about here.
Either that or they literally can't follow step-by-step instructions which doesn't seem likely.
benwah
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Which topcoat is it getting? Why isn't that in the quote? How many coats of 646? 646 is like 72% solids, concrete floors should be coated with 100% solids epoxy. 646 is okay as a primer, but you would need 2-3 coats to get rid of grinder marks and concrete anomalies. I would not suggest going forward with this quote.