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mzing

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I picked up a yost vise a while ago and havent gotten around to fixing it up yet. Aside from the obvious rust in the pic, there is a bit of rust where the screw passes through. The white is just a little wax (tried to keep it from getting any worse). Im deciding between having the whole thing sandblasted and using vinegar. I was worried that I wouldnt be able to get into the recessed areas to scrub after I used the vinegar. Also, the tightening screws for the swivel that are chrome coated are pretty rusted. Will those clean up well with a sandblasting or is there a better way?

Any suggestions on which method to go with?

Also, what color have you guys used to repaint yost vises? What brand/type of paint does everyone go with?
 

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I sandblasted mine originally before I painted it about twenty years ago. A few years back I hand sanded it and gave it a fresh coat.

I actually like that blue you have on it now.
 

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did the sandblasting remove the rust leaving a nice finish to paint/wax and did you have issues with rust after? Your vise looks great!
That should be the original yost blue. No idea what paint to grab that would be close to that color though
 

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Yes, I had a nice clean surface to paint and haven't had any rust issues since.

I've repainted several vises and with time spent prepping them correctly, they've all come out well. Attached pics are of a Columbian vise.
 

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I put all my vises in a caustic dunk tank for a couple days at my friends machine shop. It strips everything real well. Is that a military Yost? Ive seen some like that in the past and they were being sold off in bunches from military surplus.
 

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I just use a twisted wire cup on a right angle grinder. It strips paint and rust off very neatly.
On smaller parts like the swivel clamps, I'll use the wire wheel on my bench grinder.

I completely disassemble the whole vise, strip it with the wire, degrease it with brake kleen, mask and paint it, then re-assemble.

Start to finish, it never takes me more than a few hours to get it into paint, and half an hour the next day to reassemble after the paint is dried overnight.

-Brad
 

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I just use a twisted wire cup on a right angle grinder. It strips paint and rust off very neatly.
On smaller parts like the swivel clamps, I'll use the wire wheel on my bench grinder.

I completely disassemble the whole vise, strip it with the wire, degrease it with brake kleen, mask and paint it, then re-assemble.

Start to finish, it never takes me more than a few hours to get it into paint, and half an hour the next day to reassemble after the paint is dried overnight.

-Brad

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I was thinking of taking a wire wheel or a stripping disc to it, but I'm worried about the area where the screw travels. I cant get any tools in there to strip the rust. That's why I was considering sandblasting. If I didn't sandblast it (or could have someone just sandblast the rusty areas), i would just take care of the rust, wax it, and leave whatever original paint remained.

What do you guys to do protect the area under the slide where the screw goes?

bczygan...what is the least damaging method??

Lookin4'67Galaxieconv ...looks great! what color did you use on the vise in the last pic? Also, is the second pic post sandblasting??

I'm not sure if its a military vise. I picked it up on craigslist.
 

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I'm inside the actual slide? Hose it down with WD40 and don't worry about it. It won't be thick, scaly rust, it'll be light surface rust.
If you really don't like it, you should be able to work a Scotchbrite pad into it without much difficulty.

-Brad
 
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Short update...I went at it with an orbital sander and wire brush instead, since the sandblasting shop was closed today. Attached a few pics of the progress. I cant seem to do anything about the slight black discoloration (pitting?) where the rust used to be on the slide. Ill wax it when Im done getting all the rust off and lube up the screw.
What type of lube do you guys use for the screw?

Also, any ideas on the rust on the neck of the vise? I took a softish wire wheel to it and that's what it looks like after. Im thinking about taking a stronger wire wheel or sanding it down to get rid of the rust and just waxing the unpainted surface after. Thoughts??
 

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Lookin4'67Galaxieconv ...looks great! what color did you use on the vise in the last pic? Also, is the second pic post sandblasting??

The color was a Krylon blue I bought at Lowe's IIRC. I really like it, I should get some more cans of that stuff. :)

I did not sandblast the Columbia, that was wet sanded by hand.
 

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Mzing, nice 5 inch Yost.---Looks hardly used.---I have a 6'', looks just like yours.---I'm pretty sure yours is original color.---That is what I would go back with, regardless of how you strip it.---And if you don't change colors you don't have to be so particular and thorough in your stripping.;)
 
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Where would i get original colored paint?? Most of the paint on the vise is in great shape. There are a few bare spots and those large spots on the neck in my last pic. Would it be possible to strip those rough areas and do more of a touch-up or would the paints not match that well??
 
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Naval Jelly will get that discoloration out of the slide. Wear gloves. Respirator is good, if not open doors and fan.
 

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I have used a lot of different methods to remove rust over the years. If you want to attack the slides and hard to reach areas on a vise, I would recommend doing an immersion in liquid. Personally I don't like using abrasives as it removes good metal with the rust ( as Bill mentioned, the least damaging method). A sandblasting shop should be able to use walnut shells or baking soda which is less damaging to the metal, if you go that route.

I've used electrolysis for rust removal most commonly as it's cheap and effective. My vises have been cleaned with this method.

Evaporust is also very effective, but can be expensive to get enough to completely cover the vise. I put the smaller parts in evaporust (nuts/bolts/rings/etc)

I have had mixed results with the molasses & water technique - I've found it can take weeks and seems to be temperature dependent (has to stay warm).

Citric acid & vinegar are effective, but I have also had funny results with both methods. I used to use vinegar for cleaning cast iron cookware; some pieces started to clean up within 15 minutes, other pieces had to be repeatedly soaked. I do not understand what variables seem to cause this.

I do not use hydrochloric acid anymore. I attempted to remove rust from a Miller's Falls hacksaw years ago - after an hour it had reduced most of the visible rust but unknowingly chewed the threads on all the screws to an unusable state. Some of the old timers suggested that some of the older steels were mixed with pot metal and other steel grades, making them more/less reactive than other steels used on the same tools.

After the rust removal is complete you'll have to scrub the residue off the pieces. I give stuff a good scrub and then dry everything as quickly as possible in front of a fan. You will get some flash rusting, but a wipe down with BLO will take that right off. I like Boeshield T9 spray for getting into those tight places; it will dry and seems to last longer than WD40.
 
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So i ended up just cleaning it up, putting some johnsons wax on it, and a thin layer of grease on the screw. The angle grinder with the cupped wire wheel helped with the residual black, but the black coloration came back after I put wax on it.

Thanks for the help guys! :thumbup:
 

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DON'T DO IT!!!:wtf:
YOU'LL END UP LIKE ME!!!!!:shocking:

Take Care!:thumbup:
ZOOM
 

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So i ended up just cleaning it up, putting some johnsons wax on it, and a thin layer of grease on the screw. The angle grinder with the cupped wire wheel helped with the residual black, but the black coloration came back after I put wax on it.

Thanks for the help guys! :thumbup:

Looks great, good decision.
 

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So i ended up just cleaning it up, putting some johnsons wax on it, and a thin layer of grease on the screw. The angle grinder with the cupped wire wheel helped with the residual black, but the black coloration came back after I put wax on it.

Thanks for the help guys! :thumbup:

That looks great the way it is.
 
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Lol zoomieport...let me know if you need to free up some space over there! Id definitely be willing to buy one of your smaller wiltons that needs some work!!

Thanks guys!
 

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Yea Zoom, how are you going to get the insurance Co. to pay for your cracked foundation, and cracked floors, and cracked walls.---They are going to take one look at your museum and say "we're not paying for that":D
 
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