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Curious more then any real plans, does NEC currently allow for overhead exterior feeds?

What wire for a simple 120v circuit or maybe a small sub? Looks like #6 is the smallest common overhead drop cable
 
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Curious more then any real plans, does NEC currently allow for overhead exterior feeds?
Yes, it's done on farms everywhere.
What wire for a simple 110v circuit
Triplex
or maybe a small sub? Looks like #6 is the smallest common overhead drop cable
Quadplex

In both cases, the messenger can be used as a ground, but unlike the POCO, not a neutral.

Size will be determined by what's available and if I were to guess, #6 is as small as it will get.
 
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****, I wrote 110v and no one called me out...

I wasn't questioning wire size/amperage, I was questioning size/type as I didn't see any immediately available appropriate wire in smaller size.
 
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What size 110v circuit?

Or what size 110/220v sub?
Again, not really relevant as this was more of a "could I do that?" Then anything else

#12 would be perfectly fine, but I didn't see anything smaller then #6
 
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You won't find any smaller than #6. There might be #8 duplex made but I don't think I've ever laid hands on it. Even #6 OH is tiny.
Thanks.

Would be stupid to run 6 if I did this, so back to UF and a trencher or solar and just lights
 

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Thanks.

Would be stupid to run 6 if I did this, so back to UF and a trencher or solar and just lights

Why do you call it stupid? What you described is exactly what #6 is usually used for.

If I'm feeding more than a light and a cattle water, I usually run at least #4
 
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Why do you call it stupid? What you described is exactly what #6 is usually used for.

If I'm feeding more than a light and a cattle water, I usually run at least #4

Massively oversized and really not that far of a run. Trenching there is just going to be a PITA and I really don't need lights and an outlet out there.

Like I said in the OP, just a thought exercise this morning and all I saw was #6.

How far are you running #4 for the cows?
 
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Massively oversized and really not that far of a run. Trenching there is just going to be a PITA and I really don't need lights and an outlet out there.

Like I said in the OP, just a thought exercise this morning and all I saw was #6.

How far are you running #4 for the cows?

Sometimes less than 100' sometimes much further. Load from a light and a water is about 5 or 6 amps.

#6 is what street lights are usually fed with. Maybe #8 sometimes. We are talking about a 1-2 amp load.

Anything smaller is going to be copper so costs more
 

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Reminds me of the days when I ran 2 of Dad's extension cords out the back window of the garage and out thru the trees to my treehouse.

Voltage drop 200' away? Pfft.
And I am sure that these were two wire (no ground) cords……… Those were the days when the only "ground" we knew had grass growing on it.
We had 120v electric in our forts and tree houses plus we used white gas burners, drank out of hoses, had BB guns for "protection" and camped out for days.
 
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And I am sure that these were two wire (no ground) cords……… Those were the days when the only "ground" we knew had grass growing on it.

C'mon, I ain't THAT old. Cord had a ground.

I do remember the radio in the garage would make you tingle when you plugged it in though

We had 120v electric in our forts and tree houses plus we used white gas burners, drank out of hoses, had BB guns for "protection" and camped out for days.
Yep
 

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Your choices will depend on your location, as an example my house in Spain was fed with 10 AWG installed by the local electrician who was also the Lineman for the utility.


He ran two conductors with a steel span wire.
 
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youre gonna spend more time and money on UF and a trencher than #6 OH

Probably.

Right now I either use the tractor LED bar or a headlamp. Maybe I'll spring for a $20 solar light this year...

Again, thread was just a thought experiment to get a light out in the back 40, that I really don't need.
 
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