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Air Compressor Build Questions

sld961

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I have been picking up pieces to build a larger compressor for many months now. I started with a small US Air compressor that I got for free along the side of the road (just had to add oil to the pump).

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Then I found a nice vertical tank for $15. I liked the vertical tank better, so I put my pump and motor on this new tank.

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Then I found an Emglo L pump on craigslist for $50 and a 3hp GE motor for $50.

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The motor is 3475rpm, so I had a hard time finding the right pulley with the right bore, but I ended up finding a pulley that gives me about 870 rpm at the pump.

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Hooked it up to the breaker box for a test run. I only had one belt, so it started to slip when it started to build pressure, plus the plywood flexed a little and lost tension on the belt. Should be good with 2 belts.

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Cleaned the pump and motor up and gave them some paint.

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Now I just need to mount them to the tank and plumb them up. The tank is only 30 gallons. I will keep my eye out for a larger tank on CL, but the smaller tank is good enough for my basement workshop for now.

My questions so far:

The check valve on the tank has a 3/8" ID compression connection. The discharge pipe from the pump is 1/2" ID. Will I lose a lot through the smaller check valve and adapter fittings? Should I up size it?

The data sheet for the pump shows that I should have around 19 cfm at 150 psi with a 3hp motor. Does this seem realistic? That seems high for 3hp, but that's what the paper says.
 
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jallyn

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Nice project. Love the paint.

19 cfm at 150 psi does seem high for 3hp. I would expect it to be in the range of 6 to 10 cfm. And at that flow rate I think your 3/8" ID check valve won't be a noticeable restriction.

Should be a nice setup when you are done.
 
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sld961

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Nice project. Love the paint.

19 cfm at 150 psi does seem high for 3hp. I would expect it to be in the range of 6 to 10 cfm. And at that flow rate I think your 3/8" ID check valve won't be a noticeable restriction.

Should be a nice setup when you are done.
Thanks.

6 to 10 would be disappointing. I would have to get a different pulley to drop some pressure and gain some flow, then keep an eye out for a 5hp motor.
 

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3HP is in the 10-14 CFM range.

Based on the table above I'd guess yours is on the high end, 13-14 CFM. If you run the compressor and do some math you can figure it out.

That's plenty for most people but if you have some real air hog tools you may find yourself leap frogging 5HP all together.
 
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3HP is in the 10-14 CFM range.

Based on the table above I'd guess yours is on the high end, 13-14 CFM. If you run the compressor and do some math you can figure it out.

That's plenty for most people but if you have some real air hog tools you may find yourself leap frogging 5HP all together.
I'll hope for the 14 cfm.

Once I get everything hooked up, is this formula accurate for calculating CFM?

TANK GALLONS x .536* x PSIG divided by SECONDS
 

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That should work, where PSIG is the (stop - start) pressure and seconds is the time it took. I would measure the time between 100-115 psi to determine delivered CFM to your air tools after the compressor has been running 15 minutes. Single stage pumps drop off in efficiency as pressures go higher and at least my Emglo K pumps generate more CFM cold than hot.
 
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sld961

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Does anybody else have an Emglo L pump? There doesn't seem to be a lot of info out there about them.
 
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Then I found a nice vertical tank for $15. I liked the vertical tank better, so I put my pump and motor on this new tank.
$15 is an absolute steal ! I'll give you double when you want to sell it !

I concur with the others. To get the pressure and volume you want you are going to need at least 5hp.
 
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sld961

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$15 is an absolute steal ! I'll give you double when you want to sell it !

I concur with the others. To get the pressure and volume you want you are going to need at least 5hp.
It came with all the piping, valves and a pressure regulator (Norgren 11-002-061 I believe) too. The 3/4" brass ball valve was worth the $15, the rest was basically free!
 

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It came with all the piping, valves and a pressure regulator (Norgren 11-002-061 I believe) too. The 3/4" brass ball valve was worth the $15, the rest was basically free!

Where do you live ? When can I pick it up ?
 
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sld961

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Got the pump and motor mounted, and started to plumb it in.

I think I'll have to paint the tank when it warms up outside.

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sld961

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I got it plumbed and temporarily wired up. Did a quick test. Pumped from 0 to 130 psi in 2min 44sec. That comes out to 12.7 cfm. Not the 19 that I was hoping for, but better than what I had. I'll get it buttoned up and take it to 150psi.
 

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Just a thing to watch. From my industrial experience, 3600 rpm electrical motors eat up their bearings fast. I would turn it off when I wasn't around.
 
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sld961

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It'll only be run when I'm using it. Thanks for the heads up.
 
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