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erik a

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I am looking for brand/type recomendations for air compressor oil ...
Manual says non detergent, 30w.
Synthetic or mineral make any difference?
Erik A
 
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If the owners manual doesn't make a recommendation about synthetic or dino, I usually use synthetic.

Brand? Whatever I can buy from amazon or the big box store.
 

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Air comp;ressors make pretty low demands on lubricating oil. They don't get really hot but they DO run the risk of a lot of water condensing in the oil from air that bypasses the rings, so anti-wear and demulsifiers in additive package. When it comes to the base oil, I have seen compressors go decades on mineral oil fills. IMHO as with anything else I would rank Group II oils as bottom of bucket, Group III as the middle and a competent Group IV/V blend as the best....but be aware that very old compressors may have seal materials not compatible with modern base stocks and additive packages.
 

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I've been running Mobil Rarus 427 for a few years now. It's a mineral base and I haven't had any issues with the temperature swings here in MD.
 

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And what is the difference between running a motor oil (detergent) vs. a non det oil?
Detergent oils are known to foam in splash lubricated crank cases, which can lead to too much oil up top at the valves, which leads to carbon buildup in compressor valves (which don't burn off carbon like engine valves).

A good synthetic oil doesn't have these foaming issues.
 

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Detergent oils keep particulates in suspension so when the oil pump pumps it through the filter the particulates can be filtered out.
Non detergent oils let the crud settle to the bottom of the crankcase under the assumption there is no pump or filter.
 

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Detergent oils are known to foam in splash lubricated crank cases, which can lead to too much oil up top at the valves, which leads to carbon buildup in compressor valves (which don't burn off carbon like engine valves).

A good synthetic oil doesn't have these foaming issues.
Thank you. I knew you had the answer.
 

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Detergent oils keep particulates in suspension so when the oil pump pumps it through the filter the particulates can be filtered out.
Non detergent oils let the crud settle to the bottom of the crankcase under the assumption there is no pump or filter.
I've always understood that I should use non-detergent oil, but this is the best explanation I've ever seen about why. Thank you.
 
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Last time I was wondering this t went to Ace hardware and they had “air Compressor oil”
 

rlitman

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"air compressor oil" is so they can charge more.
That's what I feel about piston air compressor oil. As for other types of compressors (scroll comes to mind first, but there are many types), they may indeed need special oils.

So far as I'm aware, hardware store conventional air compressor oil is just ND30 at triple the price, and the markup on synthetic is even crazier.

Detergent oils keep particulates in suspension so when the oil pump pumps it through the filter the particulates can be filtered out.
Non detergent oils let the crud settle to the bottom of the crankcase under the assumption there is no pump or filter.
Very true. I've seen pump lubricated air compressors, but haven't seen ones with oil filters (except a pickup screen), so detergent isn't doing a compressor any favors.
 

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It's simply risk vs. reward...

Is your compressor worth $50, or $1500(or more)

Is the oil you're going to put in it worth $3, or $13(or more)

Are you going to change it once a year, or once a lifetime? If you are a moderate to low user and you put a good oil in you are probably covered for a very long time, so do you want to put in an oil that is rated for a very long time? Or one that's designed to be changed out 2x a year & filtered with every circulation?

Everybody's compressor usage will vary, so just because 1 guy says he uses x oil and changes it every 50 years, but leaves out that it was at the air compressor at his summer cottage which gets 1 hour of work per 2 years doesn't mean you should treat your big expensive compressor you hooked up to the blast cabinet and run up to duty cycle(or more) 3 days a week.

Whatever you use make sure it stays full, I choose amsoil because I use their fluids in all my diffs/tcases etc and I can get the compressor oil delivered much cheaper then the box store stuff.
 

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I use Schaeffer 158 synthetic compressor oil

I don't recommend Royal Purple compressor oil due to issues I had using it in the winter (though it might not give you any issues being in Maryland).

I would rather use an oil with a compressor additive package over one without it.
 

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It depends on many factors, piston vs. scroll/rotary, splash vs. pressure/filter lubrication, ambient temperature/humidity, run time, etc. A standard reciprocating using mineral oil, the typical change interval oil is around 200 hours. Switch that to a full synthetic and the interval is in the range of 2,000 hours. A scroll is around 8,000 hours with synthetic. If you put on low hours per year, then standard mineral oil is fine, and the factor of oil changes is more because of water in the oil as opposed to the oil wearing out. If you are using your compressor frequently with longer run times, then synthetic would be the way to go. If you operate the compressor at temperature extremes, a synthetic would be a better choice. In either case I would change the oil at least annually. I have a dual stage rotary compressor which gets infrequent use I Mobil Rarus 427, Compressor, 1 qt., ISO100, SAE Grade 3, it is 2 qts per oil change. A synthetic would be a waste of money, as I would still need to change the oil annually. I did put an hour meter on my compressor, the actual tun time is a lot less than one thinks. I primarily use Mobil and Miles oils, the latter usually in a 5 gal pail for my other machines. Typically use Zoro for the free shipping. Also note that some compressor manufactures will only extend their warranties if you buy their oil kit. Manuals indicate oil recommendations and frequency, I usually stick with mainstream manufactures as the cost difference is small at the quantity that I use.
 

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I never put much thought into it. I just picked up a bottle of compressor oil and at HD that was sitting next to the compressors. My compressor uses so little of it that even changing it yearly it will last a long time.
 
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