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Air Compressor Size and CFM

motofool33

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So i need the first air compressor for my shop thats not gas powered =)

im looking for one that is quiet and can keep up with me if i want to use a die grinders for 30-45mins without me having to wait on the air compressor all the time. Also will be using my 40amp plasma cutter at times.

Ive been looking at 5hp units in the 1000+ dollar range and reading about CFM ratings. but im sure you guys have some real world experience on this stuff.

im looking to get a compressor that will last me 10 years or better with occasional use.

Vertical style is likely that im looking for.

Any suggestions?
 
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Darn, for $1k you should get a plenty big unit to do just about anything...look at lowes, Grainger, Tractor supply, Sears....dual cylinder oiled.
 

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I/R are great units, for occasional used you will have this for 10+ years! just make sure you keep it drained of moisture and lubricated.
 
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motofool33

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Mostly looking for some advice on CFM consumption of air tools and Plasma cutters, compared to the stated specifications on the labels.

brand and where to buy i have time to look around.
 

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I have a 60 gallon with 14 CFM at 90 psi and I want over 20 CFM to handle the load. I added a 80 gallon reserve tank to help ,and it does, but as has been said by many others, there is no substitute for CFM. So get as much as your budget will allow. I found a chart at Rapidair.com (I think) that shows the CFM draw from various tools. Just Google it and go. That will help with your decision.
 

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Using air to power a die grinder is an incredibly inefficient solution. If I was personally going to be doing that much grinding I would look into an electric one.
 
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IR is garbage, its an indian pump with a chinese motor. By the way i dont think that the compressor you posted is even 2 stage meaning two pistons and much faster refill.

I dont mean to be rude but there are so many threads like this you could really just search and find all the info you need. Thats what i did.

I bought a quincy QT-54 with a magnetic starter and wired it in with 8 gauge.

The box stores do not carry anything that is worth buying, find yourself a local industrial compressor dealer. If you pay cash the price is actually cheaper because you dont have to pay out the *** for freight and also the lift gate fee (which is ******** - read the fine print at northern tool)

If you decided you dont want to spend more than 1000 i recommend the harbor freight 60 gallon. Its an italian pump stamped made in the EU (european union) and a chinese AO smith motor (AO smith used to be american). It is the exact same unit as the belair compressors (search) which are a medium grade compressor.

I saw 3 IR 80 gallons smoke the motors at my old workplace within months, they warrantied every time but what a pain in the ***.

Champion is another good brand

Not sure why people are talking about die grinders vs electric grinders, (which are both a necessity in and shop) Compressed air is a necessity for automotive work - leak down tests, impacts, pneumatic drills, air hammers, are all tools that once you use you cannot live without.

As for cfm my quincy is around 16 cfm @175 and 21ish@90

Also down the road dont forget you are going to need real air filters and a decent plumbing system. I ran mine for a year without a decent setup then bit the bullet and put about 400 into plumbing and filters.
 
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5hp should be your minimum. Get one that has a cast iron pump.

Quincy is a good brand. You might luck out and find a used Quincy 3ph cheap. Swap in a new 240V motor and sell the old motor (you might even make money on that).
 
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8man I just spent 6months working out of Willis, my garage I purchased is in spring near vintage Park.

To be clear I do have a making 18volt die grinder that I use a lot. But if that fails or I can't fit it I still want my compressor to keep up with me.

And also keep up with the plasma cutter operation.

I plan on getting a real filter or dryer setup gotta research that too.


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IR is garbage, its an indian pump with a chinese motor. By the way i dont think that the compressor you posted is even 2 stage meaning two pistons and much faster refill.

I dont mean to be rude but there are so many threads like this you could really just search and find all the info you need. Thats what i did.

I bought a quincy QT-54 with a magnetic starter and wired it in with 8 gauge.

The box stores do not carry anything that is worth buying, find yourself a local industrial compressor dealer. If you pay cash the price is actually cheaper because you dont have to pay out the *** for freight and also the lift gate fee (which is ******** - read the fine print at northern tool)

If you decided you dont want to spend more than 1000 i recommend the harbor freight 60 gallon. Its an italian pump stamped made in the EU (european union) and a chinese AO smith motor (AO smith used to be american). It is the exact same unit as the belair compressors (search) which are a medium grade compressor.

I saw 3 IR 80 gallons smoke the motors at my old workplace within months, they warrantied every time but what a pain in the ***.

Champion is another good brand

Not sure why people are talking about die grinders vs electric grinders, (which are both a necessity in and shop) Compressed air is a necessity for automotive work - leak down tests, impacts, pneumatic drills, air hammers, are all tools that once you use you cannot live without.

As for cfm my quincy is around 16 cfm @175 and 21ish@90

Also down the road dont forget you are going to need real air filters and a decent plumbing system. I ran mine for a year without a decent setup then bit the bullet and put about 400 into plumbing and filters.

I call BS on that IR info. Clearly bias, for other reasons.

I've owned two IR's in the last 11 years. Not one issue here. Sure , if you spend twice as much and go with a Quincy or Champion you'll get a better compressor.

1. IR Pumps are made India.

2. The Motors they use are NOT made in China. Not the units I've had experience with. = USA motor co, - assembled in Mexico.

They are far from garbage.
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OP, - as said earlier, an electric grinder for allot of grinding is a better choice. There are times when you might need a small air grinder for the job or a cut off. Most likely, the machines your being refereed to should handle that without much difficulty. 5 horse 15-20 CFM machines can handle that comfortable when the need arises. If you run DA's, I would think about stepping up the CFMs.

I would suggest a 5 hp compressor , 80 gallon 2 stage unit at the least. When browsing, you'll find that the nicer units will produce more CFM's at lower motor rpm's, which make them quieter as well.

Good Luck. :thumbup:
 

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If you’re looking for a home garage unit for light duty work, the compressors you’ve been looking at should be fine. If at some point you’re going to push that threshold and demand more from it, you will need to add an extra $1000+ to the amount you’re planning on spending now.
 

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IR is garbage, its an indian pump with a chinese motor. By the way i dont think that the compressor you posted is even 2 stage meaning two pistons and much faster refill.

I dont mean to be rude but there are so many threads like this you could really just search and find all the info you need. Thats what i did.

I bought a quincy QT-54 with a magnetic starter and wired it in with 8 gauge.

The box stores do not carry anything that is worth buying, find yourself a local industrial compressor dealer. If you pay cash the price is actually cheaper because you dont have to pay out the *** for freight and also the lift gate fee (which is ******** - read the fine print at northern tool)

If you decided you dont want to spend more than 1000 i recommend the harbor freight 60 gallon. Its an italian pump stamped made in the EU (european union) and a chinese AO smith motor (AO smith used to be american). It is the exact same unit as the belair compressors (search) which are a medium grade compressor.

I saw 3 IR 80 gallons smoke the motors at my old workplace within months, they warrantied every time but what a pain in the ***.

Champion is another good brand

Not sure why people are talking about die grinders vs electric grinders, (which are both a necessity in and shop) Compressed air is a necessity for automotive work - leak down tests, impacts, pneumatic drills, air hammers, are all tools that once you use you cannot live without.

As for cfm my quincy is around 16 cfm @175 and 21ish@90

Also down the road dont forget you are going to need real air filters and a decent plumbing system. I ran mine for a year without a decent setup then bit the bullet and put about 400 into plumbing and filters.

I do not believe your numbers are correct for the model you referenced.
 

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I think they are pretty close - dont have the manual here.

And there is no bs about the 80 gallon that blew up three times. It was the motor 3 times in a row, burned out. The shop should have bought a better unit not a home consumer grade.

Either way it just not worth the hassle IMO. Go look at the '5' HP motor on the IR and then the baldor on the quincy it is literally twice the size.
 

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And there is no bs about the 80 gallon that blew up three times. It was the motor 3 times in a row, burned out. The shop should have bought a better unit not a home consumer grade.

Either way it just not worth the hassle IMO. Go look at the '5' HP motor on the IR and then the baldor on the quincy it is literally twice the size.

Which motor ? Can you get a pic of the motor plate by chance ? Dang! I really want to know lol.. Was it the Emerson or a USA motors motor ?
 
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