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Air Compressor Takes Flight

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Man, I spent an hour trying to find the answer to how much potential energy is stored in a compressor. Not easy to find!

But I stumbled on a pdf from the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory that discussed the issue and had this in a table:

Standard Air Compressor,= 50 gal
Volume in cubic ft = 6.68
Gas = Air
Pressure = 125 PSI

Ft/lbs of stored energy = 159,000; N/m of stored energy = 215,575

Holy ****!
 
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I’m betting that a compressed gas cylinder was involved. Some clown tried to charge this tank with Nitrogen or CO2 or even Oxygen.
Hook up a hose with no regulator, and BANG!


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I've told the story before:
30 years ago, a vertical blew up, put the top up through the roof, flattened the round sheet steel flinging it across the room, blew splinters out of the wall a 100 feet out into the yard! Farmer running a Haybine 1/2 mile away heard the Boom, We were building a road 200 yards away and looked in time to see the Top starting to head back to earth. Fellow had just left the building a couple of minutes prior after filling a tire!
Old Tank, Failed Pressure Relief, Stuck Contacts on the Switch?
Maintenance and regular Inspection!
 

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The motor and pump don't just separate from a tank cleanly on their own, so clearly this was an old tank being used solely for storage.


Yep, something was jury rigged. He better have a large liability policy!!
 
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Since this in no longer "interesting" local news I doubt there will be any more information come out. I thought it was odd that there wasn't any comment from the owner of the tank in the story, surely there was a similar sized hole in his roof and it would have been easy to find the launch site. :lol:
 

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Again using Poncho's screen shot.





The large plug on compressors . . . I always figure were an inspection plug. :dunno:


Does anybody have one that is tapped with a smaller bushing in it ?

Yes. In fact, I've never seen an inspection plug that was not also a bushing. The tanks need a certain number of bulkheads, and why add one that is dedicated to inspection when you could also use it for other purposes.

Oh, and on that note, inspection plugs are always found on ASME tanks, but are not as often found on smaller tanks. Between that, and the metal plate I see welded on in that picture, I'm thinking this was an ASME tank, which would make it IIRC 60 gallons or larger.
 
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...surely there was a similar sized hole in his roof and it would have been easy to find the launch site. :lol:

Maybe it launched from his back yard. Maybe he just did an adult version of what I'm about to post. I mean what kid in the 70s didn't lose theirs on the neighbor's roof.


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Somewhere in the text of the news article, it is stated that it originated from a backyard a few houses away.
I also find it bizarre that the owner of the tank is not mentioned , named, questioned at all, nor is his address called out (as far as the news articles cover).
 

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The news article does illustrate how there's a lot of kinetic energy in a compressed air tank.

There is a lot of POTENTIAL energy stored in the compressed air in a tank.

When the tank fails suddenly and launches the tank airborne, then the moving piece(s) have kinetic energy.

:evil:

Oh, and on that note, inspection plugs are always found on ASME tanks, but are not as often found on smaller tanks. Between that, and the metal plate I see welded on in that picture, I'm thinking this was an ASME tank, which would make it IIRC 60 gallons or larger.

ASME rated/certified pressure vessel can be pretty much any size.

I happen to have two 15 gallon ASME-certified air compressors.

:beer:

The energy stored in compressed air (or any gas) can be rather large for even a 'moderately' sized tank.

Let's say we have a true 3 hp motor that takes 5 minutes to 'fill' our tank.

That motor running for that time used approximately

3 hp x 550 ft-lb/sec x 5 minutes x 60 sec/min = 495,000 ft-lb of energy

Let's say the the electric motor was only 80% efficient and the compressor pump was also only 80% efficient, that means that approximately

495,000 x 0.8 x 0.8 = 316,800 ft-lb of energy went into the compressed air.

How much potential energy is that?

The same energy as 316,800 lb raised one foot off the ground.

Or 158,400 lb raised two feet off the ground.

Way more than enough energy to launch a 500 or 1000 lb tank through a roof and a pretty far distance, even after using some of that stored energy to rip apart the steel tank itself.

No joke, most folks never think about the LARGE amount of potential energy that is stored in that compressed air.

Which is why I have said multiple times here on GJ (and other places), one does NOT-NOT-NOT 'repair' a pressure vessel (of ANY type or size) unless

you KNOW exactly what you are doing.

Which pretty much means you are an ASME R-certified shop. Full certification, full paper trail, full required inspections.

Because when things go wrong with a pressure vessel, they can go really wrong.

Which is why ASME was first formed back in the late 19th century, when there were over 2000 boiler explosions between 1880 and 1890 in the US alone, and the adoption of boiler and pressure vessel codes in the early 20th century. Notably after the catastrophic boiler explosion in the Grover Shoe Factory in Brockton, MA in 1905

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Shoe_Factory_disaster
 

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Okay, so I was bored and decided to do a little detective work. The news article stated that the house that received the wayward receiver was located in the 2000 block of South Fox St...Google mapped it and found the house...directly across the street is an auto body shop & storage yard...hummm.
 

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Maybe it launched from his back yard. Maybe he just did an adult version of what I'm about to post. I mean what kid in the 70s didn't lose theirs on the neighbor's roof.


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When I read this story this was the first thing I thought of. ooh to be a kid again.
 

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Again using Poncho's screen shot.





The large plug on compressors . . . I always figure were an inspection plug. :dunno:


Does anybody have one that is tapped with a smaller bushing in it ?

My 80 gallon Quincy originally had smaller tapped holes in both inspection plugs. The lower one was a dip-tube drain the other was for a relief valve.

Bill
 

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Maybe it launched from his back yard. Maybe he just did an adult version of what I'm about to post. I mean what kid in the 70s didn't lose theirs on the neighbor's roof.


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Loved those things!
 

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Yes. In fact, I've never seen an inspection plug that was not also a bushing. The tanks need a certain number of bulkheads, and why add one that is dedicated to inspection when you could also use it for other purposes.

Oh, and on that note, inspection plugs are always found on ASME tanks, but are not as often found on smaller tanks. Between that, and the metal plate I see welded on in that picture, I'm thinking this was an ASME tank, which would make it IIRC 60 gallons or larger.

My 80 gallon Quincy originally had smaller tapped holes in both inspection plugs. The lower one was a dip-tube drain the other was for a relief valve.

Bill



I was at work the other night when I made that post. I just went out and checked my compressor to see what it had.

Wait, what, my doesn't have one. WTH ? Oh yeah, there it is, like Bill's it's on the bottom and doubles as the drain too.
 

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I owned a small welding shop and can't count the number of times someone brought a compressor tank in to be repaired. "I got it for free" I convinced most of them to leave it with me to throw in the scrap bin. I wonder what became of the ones who told me they could find someone else who would fix it.
 
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I remember pressure testing a fuel oil tank once when I was younger. We decided to pop the top at 4PSI. I couldnt believe how far it flew. I learned a valuable lesson that day.
 

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I saw a post on LinkedIn a while back where some maintenance was being done on a BIG gearbox at a steel mill.

To speed up the oil-draining process (many many gallons of oil), the guys decided to plug the vents and pressurize the case with a little air pressure to force the oil out faster.

As I say the case was "big" and whatever pressure they put on it was enough to explode the case. It stayed in one piece but burst in a SERIOUS way.

To their credit, they drained the oil in record time. LOL.
 

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Calculate how much energy a SCBA tank has at 4500psi! Scary stuff...
 

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Calculate how much energy a SCBA tank has at 4500psi! Scary stuff...



My current gf is a scuba instructor and the running joke that I have alway when I move tanks (witch are all over the place it seems like) I’m wait for that day I finally get to see one go flying across the room and through the walls across the parking lot. I really want to see it happen yet I also don’t really want to see it happen. Btw they work great when use brad guns airing up tires basically using them for tools that are not air hogs they work great and easy to transport and when on a job doing trim work easy set up easy load up


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I'm not saying it's fake, but the pics don't add up. The video of the FD taking it down, the pics of it sticking out of the roof and hanging into the room show both end bells intact. The pic of the receiver laying on the floor shows no feet or bottom end bell...

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I'm not saying it's fake, but the pics don't add up. The video of the FD taking it down, the pics of it sticking out of the roof and hanging into the room show both end bells intact. The pic of the receiver laying on the floor shows no feet or bottom end bell...

Post #22 by 67Carl has a pic (click the pic to enlarge) that shows there is a portion of the bottom tank end that did not blow off. I think that portion is toward the photographer in the pic with the firemen lowering the tank down so it looks intact in that pic but is in fact "blowed the $%^& up".



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Post #22 by 67Carl has a pic (click the pic to enlarge) that shows there is a portion of the bottom tank end that did not blow off. I think that portion is toward the photographer in the pic with the firemen lowering the tank down so it looks intact in that pic but is in fact "blowed the $%^& up".



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Good point. I'm looking at it on my phone. I'll have to look closer later.

Tommy
 

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That doesn't happen. Mythbusters blew that one out of the water.

Tommy

Pretty sure I saw the movie around 1978-79 on Showtime, Mom worked for the cable company and we got it and cable for free...Anyways, good luck convincing 9 year old me about the Mythbusters conclusion...Or that Mork wasn't from Ork.
 

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That doesn't happen. Mythbusters blew that one out of the water.

Tommy

They do (or did ) some cool stuff but I think there were times, they were off on their experiments.


I believe it was Chicago when carbon fiber SCBA bottles came into existence. They are a thin aluminum bottle wrapped with carbon fiber. According to the article in Fire House (or other fire mag) the driver used one as a wheel chock and ended up running it over. It looked fine and was put in a SCBA frame and back in the officer's seat. Hours later, it ruptured and destroyed that corner of the cab.


Also keep in mind, that SCUBA bottle is 2216psi while the CF SCBA bottle is 4500.
 

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Love the scene with the Garand - true or not.... But I must remind Chief Brody that the "close your eyes and yank the trigger" technique is not conducive to maximum accuracy LOL.

(PS - Roy Scheider was a badass IMO)
 

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I would not argue with the 100 gallon claim without a tape measure. From the photos the tank may well be 24 inch diameter and 48 inches tall.


Given it failed at the weld it must have been way over pressurized.

The tank looks to have a welded on tag making likely to be an older US made tank.

I would guess it was rated for 150 PSI and that weld was factory tested to 300 PSI. That begs the question where did a home shop get 400 PSI air to blow the tank? Very wild guess is someone got hold of a scuba tank compressor and was fitting this tank to it.

Can anyone make up a better story?


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Not me. I agree. Old tank, quality construction, not rusty. Overpressurized in some use to be revealed.
 

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Pretty sure I saw the movie around 1978-79 on Showtime, Mom worked for the cable company and we got it and cable for free...Anyways, good luck convincing 9 year old me about the Mythbusters conclusion...Or that Mork wasn't from Ork.

:lol:

I remember seeing the movie in the theater and laughing my azz off when you could see the metal hinges in the corners of the sharks mouth on some of the close up shots. Years later I noticed right behind the dorsal fin, you can see the wire they used to pull the shark up onto the back of the boat.



Tommy
 
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I remember the documentary on the film...The crew called the POS mechanical shark 'Bruce" because someone higher up (Named Bruce) wouldn't let them make a better one. Luckily they had film format, the fear of water and a great score to make the shark terrifying enough to make a great movie for the time.

They sure ran the franchise through the toilet with each sequel, one more comical than the next. 2 wasn't bad, but then again I also saw it when I was like 9.
 
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