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The best safety coupler in the world is PREVOST. I have used them for a number of years and they will outlast your standard metal sleeve sytle 10 to 1.Prevost couplers are light weight and the black body type are the safety style that bleed of downstream pressure in your air hose before releasing, so you don't get dangerous "hose whip". They are more expensive than the Milton or Amflo but they will outlast them by far.

If you can't find a distributor call 800-845-7220 they can tell you. I know Mac Tool, Matco, Snap-On & lawson Products does carry them.
 
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What is the purpose of the safety valve?

I am very new to air tools so I want to make sure my setup is correct.

I have a 30gallon oil air compressor that I am getting in a week. What should be the setup of it via lines?

I was thinking this? From the air tank, have an on/off valve before the quick disconnect. Then it goes to the hose via one male end fitting. The other end of the hose would be a quick disconnect. Then the tool would have a male fitting on it?

If I wanted to change tools would I then use the shut off valve, close it, remove tool, put new tool on the line, and open the valve so air goes back into the hose?

Or is there a better way?

I work on my own cars and motorcycles so I am eager to get into the air world of tools... just want to make sure I have it setup properly/correct...

Thanks,
-Nigel
 

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another vote for Prevost:

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Nigel,

No, you don't have to turn off the air to swap tools, regardless of the quick-disconnect coupler (unless the coupler freezes in the open position). Just make sure you've got a decent grip on the tool and the hose coupler when you disconnect. The air stops when the coupler is removed from the tool.

I'm with Monte and others... I love the Prevost couplers. Before I started using them many years ago, I didn't fully appreciate the myriad of cases where I like leaving the tool connected to the hose but free of air pressure. Some are obvious... old framing nailer with bump nailing (and no safety), for example. Any nailer where a small child might pick it up unexpectedly. Some are less obvious until you use them or have a laziness-induced mishap. I can't be the only one here who has slung a bunch of compound on themselves and the walls by bumping the palm switch when putting compound on the pad of a polisher with the air on. Or tipping the sander over on a workbench, having the palm switch get tripped by something next to it and watching the sander dance off the bench. Or activated the die grinder when its hanging in my tool belt. With the Prevost it quickly becomes habit to release the air pressure before setting the tool down or hanging it in my belt.

In 2010 I bought some of the Milton copies of the Prevost. They worked OK for a while but one of them has started failing miserably (doesn't close on release). They were half the price, but appear to be less than half the quality. None of my Prevost have failed and I've used and abused them for a long time.
 

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another vote for Prevost:

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How does this differ from a normal quick disconnect? Please excuse my ignorance, I'm trying to learn as much about this as possible...lol

Nigel,

No, you don't have to turn off the air to swap tools, regardless of the quick-disconnect coupler (unless the coupler freezes in the open position). Just make sure you've got a decent grip on the tool and the hose coupler when you disconnect. The air stops when the coupler is removed from the tool.

Good to know then because that's what I was hoping for but rather than assume I figured I'd ask or worse yet set everything up and it be unsafe/improper..etc.

How does the safety valve though in the above video differ from a milton quick disconnect.. normal M, or V valve?

Thanks for the help so far!

-Nigel
 

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@Nigel. I use industrial. It's common for my application. Truflate and the ARO are two others.

I've used the CEJN and Prevost. I have mostly Cejn but kind of like the Prevost. The Prevost have more sizes for what I need than the Cejn for air reels that have the 3/8" fitting on the hose, but where I have a 1/4" opening for air tools.

If you need to learn about all this, the McMaster-Carr catalog has some good introductory, simple explanations for everything you'll need to know.

PS. M=Milton=Industrial, I think.
 

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the push button release connectors bleed off the air on the line before you remove the tool. in a traditional connector-- if you were to just release the connector off the tool w/o holding the hose it should "whip" around. this whipping action is bad because you can scratch paint or hit things you do not want to. whereas these push button deals basically are 2 stage. meaning 1st stage locks it to the hose, 2nd stage engages it w/ the air. so when you hit the button, you disconnect it form the air but not from the line.

as for what style to get-- that is up to you. all companies make their own style connectors. here is a link to help describe connector styles--

https://miltonindustries.com/uploads/Page_36_Milton_Catalog.pdf
 
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I use the high flow ones from milton (V style) on my impacts and air hoses. They flow 85% more air then the standard M style which is nice on the high air flow tools, and they work with the regular M style fittings that everybody seems to have.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200319823_200319823

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200323681_200323681

I stick to name brand ones no matter what style I am buying, the cheapies just leak too much.

-Dan

Just to make sure I understand...I can put the V fittings on my tools at work (impacts, buffer, air hammer, cut off wheel, etc), and the fitting will be compatible with the "standard 1/4 NPT fitting" that the shop uses on their lines? I don't know for sure what fitting the shop has...it's the super common one, as I've used fittings from Lowe's, HD, Wal Mart, Harbor Freight, etc. It's my understanding that the "M" fitting is the ultra common fitting.

If I can put V fittings on my tools, and connect to the shop's (most likely M female receptacles), and gain a performance increase in my tools...I'm going that route!
 

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No that won't work, both the male and female connectors must be the V type to get the added air flow. The V type female coupler will accept M, V and A male ends but a M female coupler will not be able to a V male coupler.
 

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I'm in the middle of cleaning an older Speedaire compressor. Thanks for the tip on NorthernTools, good price & good performance. This will help me get the most of the unit.
 

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the push button release connectors bleed off the air on the line before you remove the tool. in a traditional connector-- if you were to just release the connector off the tool w/o holding the hose it should "whip" around. this whipping action is bad because you can scratch paint or hit things you do not want to. whereas these push button deals basically are 2 stage. meaning 1st stage locks it to the hose, 2nd stage engages it w/ the air. so when you hit the button, you disconnect it form the air but not from the line.
I just want to clarify what was written here when it comes to Prevost couplings, if they are black-bodied they are two-stage safety couplings, if they are blue the are regular quick couplings. I use black where I'm coupling and uncoupling 50 feet of hose, blue for the tool end of things.

BTW, the push-buttons are also color coded:
Blue = Industrial profile
Red = URP Truflate
Green = ERP High flow
Yellow = ARP aro 210
 

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the push button release connectors bleed off the air on the line before you remove the tool. in a traditional connector-- if you were to just release the connector off the tool w/o holding the hose it should "whip" around. this whipping action is bad because you can scratch paint or hit things you do not want to. whereas these push button deals basically are 2 stage. meaning 1st stage locks it to the hose, 2nd stage engages it w/ the air. so when you hit the button, you disconnect it form the air but not from the line.

as for what style to get-- that is up to you. all companies make their own style connectors. here is a link to help describe connector styles--

https://miltonindustries.com/uploads/Page_36_Milton_Catalog.pdf

That page helps! Unreal why there are 10 different ones out there... makes you wonder why the just didn't make an industry standard...lol

I just want to clarify what was written here when it comes to Prevost couplings, if they are black-bodied they are two-stage safety couplings, if they are blue the are regular quick couplings. I use black where I'm coupling and uncoupling 50 feet of hose, blue for the tool end of things.

BTW, the push-buttons are also color coded:
Blue = Industrial profile
Red = URP Truflate
Green = ERP High flow
Yellow = ARP aro 210



That helps with trying to figure out what fitting to get with the other fittings..

As noted above Milton is Industrial Profile?

so I could get the Prevost that is blue and use it with the high flow Milton V series high flow male/female fittings?

-Nigel
 

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I wonder about the V fittings. An all purpose fitting? Seems like there'd be a compromise somewhere if it fit M, V, and A male.
 

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That helps with trying to figure out what fitting to get with the other fittings..

As noted above Milton is Industrial Profile?

so I could get the Prevost that is blue and use it with the high flow Milton V series high flow male/female fittings?
The way I read it, there are three industrial profiles M, H and G. Milton makes multi-fit couplers. My Milton quick coupler fits both my Milton M and Milton V fittings, but my Prevost V coupler will not work with the Milton M style fittings. So I would not count on multi-fit with Prevost unless they are specific that they do support it.
 

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+1 for Milton "V" couplers and fittings. I just changed over all of the fittings in my shop...Can notice the improved flow on the die grinder and impact driver right away.

Worth every penny.

The Milton "V" female couplers will accept all of the regular male "generic" fittings when plugged into them.

However, Milton "V" male fittings will not connect up with regular "generic" female couplers.
 
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