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Wilboud

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I need a well torqued Impact gun for use in the 75lb / 125lb range.

Removing tire rims, changing blades on a Scag Cheetah ZTR .... and what ever else may pop up

I feel that an Electric unit would be very convenient, but I do have a five gallon compressor that is mobile .......

What's the word here ....

YES, new kid on the block .......

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Milwaukee fuel impact gun, portalble and as powerful as an air impact.
 

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Go with a battery-driven impact wrench and don't look back.

Milwaukee, Bosch, Dewalt, Makita


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Milwaukee fuel impact gun, portalble and as powerful as an air impact.

I hope youre not recommending the full size fuel gun because that is overkill and unecessary for 75-125 ftlb.

A Craftsman C3 has plenty of power to do the job for only $160.
 

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I think either way would be ok except for your compressor is a 5 gallon. The impact will drain that too fast and the compressor will always be trying to build air pressure. Probably go cordless in this case.
 

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I vote electric. Even the cheap guns can handle 75-125lb range and as benzoni said, 5 gal is a little small. That and the sound of a small compressor running at full speed is one of the most annoying sounds ever.
 
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I bought an electric one from HF for $50. No problems when rotating tires, suspension and brake work etc. I also have a pneumatic one but its still new in the box, too much trouble to fire up the compressor and hook the hose up I guess.
 

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I hope youre not recommending the full size fuel gun because that is overkill and unecessary for 75-125 ftlb.

A Craftsman C3 has plenty of power to do the job for only $160.

A craftsmen wont take off car wheels torqued to 75 ft-lbs on a damn toyota, I cant imagine it will work very well for the OP purposes either. Why spend 160 dollars on a hunk of garbage, craftsmen is junk..no pro would ever bother with such items ever and there is a reason for it.

I was merely suggesting the fuel line, the 3/8 gun will do everything he wants and more. 1/2 gun will do the 100 ft-lbs he needs and then have the 700 ft-lbs he might need to tackle another job if need be. Once you have a tool like that, you find more uses for it all the time.
 

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There's a newer Craftsman C3 impact rated at 300 ft lb, the older one was rated at 200. For $159 you get the impact, charger and large li ion battery. However, Id personally go with an air impact. Just take care of it and it'll last you for the rest of your life.
 

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A craftsmen wont take off car wheels torqued to 75 ft-lbs on a damn toyota, I cant imagine it will work very well for the OP purposes either. Why spend 160 dollars on a hunk of garbage, craftsmen is junk..no pro would ever bother with such items ever and there is a reason for it.
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75 ftlbs is nothing for the Craftsman. I know because I had no issues with lugs torqued to 120 ftlbs, and thats with the older 200ftlbs model. The OP is not using it in a pro environment. Besides, most of the craftsman problem came from the old Nicad battery. The lithium battery delivers a much more consistent performance, and the newer model is rated for 50% more torque.
 

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bought a corded electric Milwaukee impact on CL for $45. Works great, and no need to mess with batteries- its always ready to go!
 

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We bought the same one for a guy at work cause he complained about using a tire iron (tow truck). Stupid thing wouldnt take off tires on a toyota camry and several other sedans. Just was used for tire changes..thats it. Now a mower isnt a car, but a modern import cars lugnuts are only torqued to maybe 100ft-lbs unless the tire monkey rapped them home like crazy.

I dont like craftsmen power tools, they are worse than black and decker. I always go with the notion-buy once and cry once. I rather have a professional tool I know I can get parts for, wont break easily, is well built and will last. 3-4 years from now that sears impact gun wont even be made.

Why does everyone always tout craftsmen being the supreme, most awesome tools? I find them cheap and crappy vs anything else. Maybe Im biased cause I want my stuff to last and not be obsolete and no longer made in a few years.
 
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The CM C3 1/2" impact wrench with a Li-Ion battery will easily remove lug nuts torqued to 100 lb-ft. It's not the best impact tool but it will do the job that the OP wants done.
 
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ANY 18v impact wrench or impact driver will do what your looking for.. or you can get crazy and buy the $20 air impact and ratchet set from husky if you can find one left in HD.. the impact was rated for 300 ftlbs..
 
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I would go with more torque from the start, I know you do not need it for installing those items and in theory removing them but if you ever choose to work on something else OR someone else over tightened it you will be glad you have the extra power.
 

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Break away torque is not the same as tightening torque for lug nuts. 150 ft-lb may get the lugs loose, but expect to work for it. I would get something at least 300 ft-lb. I have two Makita impacts, 175 ft-lb and 325, guess which one I go for tire lugs?
 

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really?

ever use a corded electric 1/4" porting tool like a Dumore???
and then a Dotco air tool???

ever use a Makita, Bosch or Hitachi electric jack hammer?????
and then a CP or IR 90lb class air one?????
the electric POS have NO OATS period

ever see an electric rivet gun?????
tell you anything????

my CP 734H 1/2", CP 3/8" impacts, SO Far70 air ratchet, Dotco 90* die grinder, Dotco 90* sander and Dotco 1/4" long shank porting tool ALL fit in a 9 1/2" x 10 1/2" x 3" space....

and 150 years from now they will still work:thumbup:

your choice

now ask the wife/girlfriend........corded or battery powered ?

9 out of 10 .........corded Hitachi........makes them scream:thumbup::thumbup:

Google Swench Wrench........Mechanical Impact wrench 500-7,000 lb/ft of Impact...... FAA

certified for TORQUING BOLTS...........Made by Curtiss Wright the people that made a few

aircraft engines
 
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ANY 18v impact wrench or impact driver will do what your looking for.. or you can get crazy and buy the $20 air impact and ratchet set from husky if you can find one left in HD.. the impact was rated for 300 ftlbs..

I saw that set last week; it's a crazy deal for anyone that has a compressor but no air tools!

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My 2 cents. I use impact wrenches for removing stuff only. Never for installing stuff. I have an older electric B and D that is fairly heavily built (for a B&D) that is rated 230 lb-ft. It is barely adequate at best. Does tires OK but forget about anything that is a bit difficult. I have a CH air rated at 375 lb-ft. It is OK and generally does the job but nothing to write home about. Too me, when it comes to impact guns I wouldn't get too hung up worrying about whether the tool was "overkill"
 

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Need to keep in mind that torque specs are all over the place. There are no standard method and I find majority of the impact guns on the market have more than optimistic numbers. There is really no need to go with an expensive high-power gun for a mower, unless you need it later on. But if future-proofing is the goal, then you might as well get a 1" drive air impact of overkill isn't an issue. :eyecrazy:
 

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We bought the same one for a guy at work cause he complained about using a tire iron (tow truck). Stupid thing wouldnt take off tires on a toyota camry and several other sedans. Just was used for tire changes..thats it. Now a mower isnt a car, but a modern import cars lugnuts are only torqued to maybe 100ft-lbs unless the tire monkey rapped them home like crazy.

Proof that he had the latest model? Otherwise I think you're just fueling your own fire. Like I said, 100 ft-lbs, or even 125 ft-lbs is nothing for the Craftsman gun, and that's with the older weaker gun.

I dont like craftsmen power tools, they are worse than black and decker. I always go with the notion-buy once and cry once. I rather have a professional tool I know I can get parts for, wont break easily, is well built and will last. 3-4 years from now that sears impact gun wont even be made.

Why does everyone always tout craftsmen being the supreme, most awesome tools? I find them cheap and crappy vs anything else. Maybe Im biased cause I want my stuff to last and not be obsolete and no longer made in a few years.

I don't thinking anyone mentioned in this thread that Craftsman is the end of all things. Everyone (except maybe you?) realizes Craftsman has a marketplace and it's catered more to the homeowners than the full-time auto mechanic. Not everyone can afford 'the best' and not everyone cares to spend $400+ on an impact gun either.
 

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I have a HF corded one I bought it to run all the bolts for my 40x60 steel building, its found a lot of use since, impressed for a 50.00 impact gun
 

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ANY 18v impact wrench or impact driver will do what your looking for.. or you can get crazy and buy the $20 air impact and ratchet set from husky if you can find one left in HD.. the impact was rated for 300 ftlbs..

^^ this may work, but I would not recommend a impact driver for what the op is wanting to do. any compact battery powered impact would seem more suitable for his needs, I would prefer a full size impact myself. almost always guaranteeing enough tool for the job.
 
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