Air pipeing ?

[jbdunerunner]

I have been looking at some stuff called garage pack wondering if it is any good. Also can you use threaded carbon steel for pipeing and if so what do you seal the threads with? thanks for your responses.

 

[Aahz]

Not familiar with "Garage Pack" piping, but we use Transair for every air piping job we do. (Aluminum piping with heavy plastic fittings). It's very durable and easy to install, but more expensive than threaded steel pipe. If you have the threader and can thread pipe, then Schedule 40 black is OK to use....use pipe dope for sealing the threads.

 

[riskyvt]

I almost went the black iron pipe route, but chose to install Infinity products from Patton's Air. Like the Transair products, they use blue aluminum tubing and special fittings. The fittings are nickel-coated brass with internal rubber o-rings for sealing. I start the air distribution lines in my shop this weekend (I hope... Cost-wise, you can't beat BIP and it's used in lots of applications.

 

[fattogatto]

Did you compare prices between Patton's and Transair? What was the decider? Metal versus plastic?

 

[sneezer41]

copper

all you need at the HD

 

[riskyvt]

Did you compare prices between Patton's and Transair? What was the decider? Metal versus plastic?

No, I did not compare prices between these two products. The literature sent from Patton's had nice technical drawings of the design of the Infinity fittings, air lines, wall-mount clips, etc... and I made my decision without looking back. Looks like I'll be waiting another weekend to install the lines, as my "accent" wall color of medium grey isn't laid down yet. I focused on other things today. Workbench assembly tomorrow.

 

[Dragster Racer]

I have seen pvc used..rated to 400 psi. What are the thoughts about using that?

 

[Stuart in MN]

I have seen pvc used..rated to 400 psi. What are the thoughts about using that?

It's been discussed here many times, do a search....PVC is NOT rated for use with compressed gases, only with fluids. It's not safe for compressed airlines. It can and will shatter under pressure, throwing shrapnel everywhere, whereas metal pipe will just crack.

 

[sneezer41]

Do NOT use PVC, it will get brittle over time, and if it breaks, it will shatter, with shrapnel like effects

 

[wjhpc]

does anyone use 1/2" copper or is it just too expensive now?? JIm H

 

[Industrial Concepts]

Not familiar with "Garage Pack" piping, but we use Transair for every air piping job we do. (Aluminum piping with heavy plastic fittings). It's very durable and easy to install, but more expensive than threaded steel pipe. If you have the threader and can thread pipe, then Schedule 40 black is OK to use....use pipe dope for sealing the threads.

Garage Pack is Transair Pipe. We sell & install Prevost ALR airline. All three brands of aluminum airline has their own unique feature. For 3" or Larger I like Transair. We have had a great deal of luck with Prevost. I believe the man you founded Infinity came up with the idea of using aluminum for airline. He then sold of the company. Infinity is American made & is nice looking stuff.
Prevost has more accessories than the other brands & is a bit lower lower priced.

 

[sneezer41]

I cannot imagine that these systems are less expensive than copper, no matter the current price. Anytime you need to change, no need to order anything, just cut the pipe and add in a tee. I'm thinking these systems are made for large factories or something.

 

[Industrial Concepts]

I cannot imagine that these systems are less expensive than copper, no matter the current price. Anytime you need to change, no need to order anything, just cut the pipe and add in a tee. I'm thinking these systems are made for large factories or something.

They are less money than copper. Pipe is about the same cost as galvanized, the fittings or a little higher. We have been very competive when have bid against a plumber installing black pipe . We are also able to provide couplers,double drops with a manual drain made in to the product. The pipe is epoxy coated blue. Any of the aluminum pipe mfg. make a nice product.

If you have a good local supplier of they will keep supplies in stock or can add what you need to another order to save freight costs. The aluminum pipe is put together with compression fittings. if you want to add a drop it is as simple as marking the pipe drilling a hole in the pipe & adding a clamping saddle that has an o-ring to seal the drop.

I have not been successful at posting photos to the Journal, but I have a few photos of project that we done.

 

[PAToyota]

does anyone use 1/2" copper or is it just too expensive now?? JIm H

Mine is 3/4" copper for the main runs...

 

[kvom]

Is the pipe just for the span between the compressor a wall connector or hose reel? I'm planning to mount a hose reel high up on the wall.

 

[shocksystems]

I almost went the black iron pipe route, but chose to install Infinity products from Patton's Air. Like the Transair products, they use blue aluminum tubing and special fittings. The fittings are nickel-coated brass with internal rubber o-rings for sealing. I start the air distribution lines in my shop this weekend (I hope... Cost-wise, you can't beat BIP and it's used in lots of applications.

Did you buy direct from Patton's Air?

http://www.pattonsinc.com/piping/piping.html

Or did you find a reseller?

Cheers!

Jim

 

[fattogatto]

As an update, I went the Pattons route and am extremely happy. Everything worked as advertsied, great service, easy installation.

 

[FFPL]

As an update, I went the Pattons route and am extremely happy. Everything worked as advertsied, great service, easy installation.

This is one option I'm looking at. Got some pics to share ?

 

[shocksystems]

This is one option I'm looking at. Got some pics to share ?

I am eager to see the piping as well.

Cheers!

Jim

 

[Lravey]

I installed Garage Pak in my new 30x60 shop. The price was actually a little cheaper than copper when priced at my local Lowes & Home Depot. Installation was a breeze (done by myself in 2 afternoons) & I have had no leaks!! I would definately do it again

 

[shocksystems]

I installed Garage Pak in my new 30x60 shop. The price was actually a little cheaper than copper when priced at my local Lowes & Home Depot. Installation was a breeze (done by myself in 2 afternoons) & I have had no leaks!! I would definately do it again

Did you buy directly from Garage Pak? And did you post pictures?

Cheers!

Jim

 

[fattogatto]

No pictures right now but here's their site. Looks exactly as advertised.

http://www.pattonsinc.com/piping/piping.html

 

[e-tek]

I almost went the black iron pipe route, but chose to install Infinity products from Patton's Air. Like the Transair products, they use blue aluminum tubing and special fittings. The fittings are nickel-coated brass with internal rubber o-rings for sealing. I start the air distribution lines in my shop this weekend (I hope... Cost-wise, you can't beat BIP and it's used in lots of applications.

Can we see some pics of your set up?!

 

[e-tek]

That Patton's system is slick! I'd go with that if money and time where no concern!