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Good I've loved their latest designs. The 8C was a pricey masterpiece and I've loved the looks of the Brera ever since I glanced at one online.
 
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Nice. I'll bet that the Euro market tanking finally motivated them to US certify it.
A little blurb I read the other day said Chrysler is carrying Fiat on its back rather than Fiat "saving" Chrysler anymore. Funny how things change in 3 short years. Of course, if they gut Chrysler's finances to prop themselves up, it sounds like Daimler all over again.
 
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I would buy a modern version of this.

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I had a 1957 Spyder when I was a young, stupid kid and sold it for next to nothing. 30 plus years later....I'm still kicking myself in the ***.. :(
 
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bazzateer said:
Then you have no appreciation of automotive beauty. The Cayman is a great car but this Alfa is a beautiful car. Different strokes and all that......
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I can appreciate a nice looking car, but only 235hp after the benefit of forced induction just isn't enough at that price point.
 
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With Fiat back over here I'm glad to see Alfa back in the game. Europe as such a neat and varied array of cars, it just puts the **** we have here in America to shame.

It's pretty obvious the detractors here view cars as an appliance...or, at the very least, have no appreciation for the passion in Italian design.
 
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marlinspike said:
I can appreciate a nice looking car, but only 235hp after the benefit of forced induction just isn't enough at that price point.
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That "only" is for a four cylinder 1.8 liter engine, not a six cylinder 3.4 liter engine. And the Cayman weighs a half ton more. The Alfa has a better weight to power ratio. It does have the disadvantage of not being developed for years like the Porsche -- decades if you include much of the 911 engineering preceding it.
 
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Air_Cooled_Nut said:
That "only" is for a four cylinder 1.8 liter engine, not a six cylinder 3.4 liter engine. And the Cayman weighs a half ton more. The Alfa has a better weight to power ratio. It does have the disadvantage of not being developed for years like the Porsche -- decades if you include much of the 911 engineering preceding it.
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Being a 1.8 liter is no better an excuse than saying the handling of a car is bad because it's heavy. That's not an excuse, it's a problem.

I didn't realize how light it is. That's great, BUT at the end of the day that light weight will do nothing for top speed, and there are some of us who care about/utilize that sort of thing. Still though, now that I know how light it is, I'm excited, though I still wouldn't buy it.
 
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I like Alfas, I've owned two Alfasuds, the 4C looks like it will be a real hoot. In the UK its supposed to be priced to compete with the Boxter not the Cayman, I'm guessing good old US import taxes wil be hitting the price for you guys.
 
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Being a 1.8 liter is no better an excuse than saying the handling of a car is bad because it's heavy. That's not an excuse, it's a problem.
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You lost me then. That much power from a four banger isn't bad. Case in point: My wife's 1.8 turbo Passat is rated at 170hp stock (I have it chipped to Euro-spec so it's got more umph than stock). Heck, the Audi A3 has a turbo'd 2.0L that 'only' puts out 200hp. So what I'm saying is that 230+hp from that engine is dang good for a sub-two liter OEM engine!

marlinspike said:
I didn't realize how light it is. That's great, BUT at the end of the day that light weight will do nothing for top speed, and there are some of us who care about/utilize that sort of thing. Still though, now that I know how light it is, I'm excited, though I still wouldn't buy it.
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Top speed is necessary for track guys, yes, but daily driver or nice weather cruiser [here in the USA], I find that a weak argument...acceleration becomes the more dominant factor then.

I don't know what the acceleration stats are but that light body will keep it nimble and if they get the suspension right then it's gonna eat up curves -- if you like Porsches then you know that's where the real drivers are.

BTW, I am a Porsche lover ever since middle school; my walls and ceiling in my bedroom were almost wall-papered in Porsche posters. Love German engineering! But that beautiful Alfa bodywork and on-paper power (don't know how usable it is) makes the car look pretty appealing.
 
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Air_Cooled_Nut said:
You lost me then. That much power from a four banger isn't bad. Case in point: My wife's 1.8 turbo Passat is rated at 170hp stock (I have it chipped to Euro-spec so it's got more umph than stock). Heck, the Audi A3 has a turbo'd 2.0L that 'only' puts out 200hp. So what I'm saying is that 230+hp from that engine is dang good for a sub-two liter OEM engine!


Top speed is necessary for track guys, yes, but daily driver or nice weather cruiser [here in the USA], I find that a weak argument.

I don't know what the acceleration stats are but that light body will keep it nimble and if they get the suspension right then it's gonna eat up curves -- if you like Porsches then you know that's where the real drivers are.

BTW, I am a Porsche lover ever since middle school; my walls and ceiling in my bedroom were almost wall-papered in Porsche posters. Love German engineering! But that beautiful Alfa bodywork and on-paper power (don't know how usable it is) makes the car look pretty appealing.
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Don't get me wrong, now that I know how light the car is, I think that 4C is awesome, but for $60k they should have found a way to get a 2.5 in there and got some more power. The 4C reportedly tops at 155. I've got an old Benz S-Class that has seen more than that. Then again, I'm probably one of the few people who complains that the 155mph limiter on his 540i causing radio interference when you're hitting it.

That Alfa seems to be what the BR-Z should have been, which would be great for $40k, but $60k just seems too steep.
 
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marlinspike said:
Don't get me wrong, now that I know how light the car is, I think that 4C is awesome, but for $60k they should have found a way to get a 2.5 in there and got some more power. The 4C reportedly tops at 155. I've got an old Benz S-Class that has seen more than that. Then again, I'm probably one of the few people who complains that the 155mph limiter on his 540i causing radio interference when you're hitting it.
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That Alfa seems to be what the BR-Z should have been, which would be great for $40k, but $60k just seems too steep.
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Okay, I understand where you're coming from.
 
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