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Anyone looking at this setup, spendy @ $6K. Youtube C&C Equipment was using one.
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Anyone looking at this setup, spendy @ $6K. Youtube C&C Equipment was using one.
Bigblue&Goldie
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Cool, glad to see something like that being made these days. I've never heard of them and they are like 4mi from me.
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After posting this I found a GJ post about them.
Interesting concept but lots of questions. How much torque can you expect from the direct drive setup? Will the motor shaft stand up to axial/side loads like a true spindle with bearings? The motor mounting plate looks like it would flex pretty easily under load.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the purpose of this drill press.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the purpose of this drill press.
four.cycle
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almost makes me wish I needed a drill press.
almost makes me wish I needed a drill press.
BTL-A4
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I think it's odd that they don't have a view of the entire DP, just close-ups. How does it stand up? How tall is it?
RMERR
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I have thought countless times about how to make or mod a drill press to do what this does. Six grand is a big chunk of dough though, I'd need a windfall of sorts to spring for it. I'm saving the link though, just in case, I do like it. For $6K I would expect a slightly larger table, suppose one could be fabbed fairly easily. For me, it's in the same catagory as a fixture welding table, the once or twice a year tool splurge category (if ever). Agree with BigB&G, glad someone's thinking about this, a spindle that stays aligned without having to get a big heavy mill.
RMERR
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I had the exact same thought looking at it, come on, you want me to spend six grand show me what it looks like!
Interesting. I'm skeptical that the column setup they use won't allow play in the motor carriage- IMO it should be on "block style" linear bearings and a rail at that price, and it doesn't appear to be. And the chain setup is questionable. And yeah, it needs more explanation of what's going on and real photos.
RMERR
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In case anyone is curious like me here's a very short video
and the mentioned video from C & C equipment (the drill press appears from the 3:30 to about the 8 min mark)
and the mentioned video from C & C equipment (the drill press appears from the 3:30 to about the 8 min mark)
Thanks for that RMERR, I take back what I said about tapping with it..that's pretty slick. Just not 6K worth of slick
CapriMikeC
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It looks the motor is a Dayton 4THX5?
MushCreek
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$6K for a drill press?!? I like the round feed handle, though. I use a cheap steering wheel on my B'Port, and I get lots of ribbing about it, but it sure is nice for drilling lots of holes.
paulsomlo
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At $2k - $3k? Maybe... but not $6k. I was doing some drilling yesterday on a 8x30" Taiwan mill that I just got up and running; I don't know what kind of a mill it's going to be, but it's looking like one hell of a drill press.
DAWrench
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It might be a good drill press but they should find a better cutting fluid than WD-40 for the drill bits
Firebrick43
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Using motor bearings directly as spindle bearing is an incredibly stupid design decision.
Firebrick43
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It’s rack a pinion for the head up/down.
The chain part of a counterbalance. There is a weight in the column that supports at least portion of the heads weight.
It’s actually one part of the machine that is designed ok. A lot of old massive vertical milling machines have a similar setup so the ball screws and. Motors don’t have to support all the weight constantly
Well I’m looking at this on my phone so I had no idea it’s a RnP set up. But I would like to know why you think utilizing motor bearings is such a poor idea. I would think they’d use an angular bearing to mitigate axial deflection, but I don’t know if they did.
Firebrick43
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It a standard C face motor frame probably a nema 145. They don’t make high thrust motors with die cast aluminum ends which it clearly is nor is there enough meat on those die cast bases to modify for a 5205 double angular contact
P base vertical pump motors that would have double row angular contacts are cast iron and start about 3 hp. Much larger than that. Much thicker end section.
Smaller vertical pumps (and some large ones, use thrust bearings in the pump chair or are special made motors from companies that make the whole shebang like grundfos.
I would bet you a Benjamin that motor has a C3 tolerance 6205 on the shaft end and a C3 6203 on the fan end.
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I wouldn’t take that bet. I don’t have any confidence in their product. I do like the tapping aspect but that real easy to replicate for penny’s on their dollar.
Firebrick43
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The tapping is easy to replicate with any vfd. I have installed it on (4) series II bridgeports I converted to vfd and my personal DP220. I use a momentary and switch but could easily be changed to a footswitch if desired.
seber
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That table is way too flimsy for vibration reduction in spite of the extra support. I do really like the infinite vertical travel but totally agree that using and off the shelf motor for the spindle is an absolute no go.