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diggerrick

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Are the "Allen" brand tools any good?

Menards has been having some great sales on them, currently a 5 pc pliers set or 18 pc screwdriver set for $8.88, also a 22 pc combination wrench set with pouch for $9.99.
 
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i have an allen 3/8 ratchet i really like. funny thing is i have no idea where it came from, it just appeared in one of my boxes and now its one of my favorites lol
 

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A lot of those deals are China stuff while Allen had historically been USA.
 

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diggerrick,

When you go to Menard's, check the COO on the back of the packaging of the on sale Allen brand tools. A number of the new hand tool models are made in China (especially their hex keys). The older Allens were 100% made in the USA.


Dave
 
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From my own experience using them, the USA made Allen tools are excellent. Great quality tools for the money. I also have some of the China made Allen tools. They are also good tools, but I wonder how well they will stand up to long-term use. So far they have been good though. I've used the US made Allen tools for a few years and have had no issues.


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i have a number of allen branded end wrenches and what not, they are stamped made in usa and i have yet to break one. hard to keep on top of who is taking there products offshore anymore. if its usa im not scared of them.
 

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are these sales on their website or local? that's a slammin' deal if they're the USA ALLEN brand.

The Allen screwdriver and pliers sets I have seen on sale recently at Menards have been from china. I havent' seen the wrench sets that were mentioned by the OP, so I don't know about them.

Scott
 

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The old USA-made Allen tools were Danaher's "light industrial" tool line, the little brother to Armstrong tools. Allen was analagous to Proto's Blackhawk line and Wright's Cougar line (FWIW, Wright Cougar is produced by Danaher and in many cases the tools are the same as Allen tools). Allen tools are also identical to some Craftsman, Kobalt, and K-D tools. This is especially noticeable in the ubiquitous Danaher pear-head ratchets, a staple of the Allen line.

I use a couple Allen (and K-D) 3/8"-drive metric socket sets, a 1/4"-drive metric socket set, a metric combination wrench set, a ton of hex keys, and some random screwdrivers, chisels and punches, and pliers. They are my "driveway" tools, the ones I don't mind using out in the rain or at the junkyard. They lead a tough life - I just today beat on one of the socket sets while replacing a pinion seal and disassembling and regreasing some rear brake calipers. I've never had a problem with any of them, they are tough tools. Their hex keys are, as one would imagine, just as good if not better than anyone else's. Even the pear head ratchets, which so many seem to dislike, have served me well.

That being said, I think the Allen line (and K-D line, apart from automotive specialty tools) has been discontinued. Some of the Allen metal-box socket sets ended up in the Armstrong catalog, but the rest of the brand as we knew it is finished and has been replaced with very cheap Chinese import tools - probably specifically targeted at places like Menards. Some of the old USA Allen is still available from closeout vendors such as cripedistributing.com, where it is very cheap and is a bargain. I think I paid something like $18 each for my two 3/8"-drive metric socket sets (10-19mm, 3" and 6" extensions, 5/8" spark plug socket, and pear-head ratchet, all in a metal box) - cheap enough to keep one in the trunk of both my classic cars.

It's sad to see another American-made brand die off, but it's clear that Allen was in fact redundant within Danaher's brand portfolio. The full list prices weren't really much lower than Armstrong anyway. At least the tools they did make will still be working for years to come.
 

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I have a set of the Allen branded USA made hex keys. How could you not...they were the inventor of them!! I got them from Cripe.

http://www.cripedistributing.com/al....html?osCsid=44e50a017d238d66ad866b33429dd482

Be careful though, I did search for Allen on Cripe and a lot of the stuff like their current chrome sockets listed look like they are Chinese.

I agree with the above, very industrial, no non-sense tools that don't look great but get the job done. Kinda like a cheap JH Williams.
 

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I have a set of the Allen branded USA made hex keys. How could you not...they were the inventor of them!! I got them from Cripe.

http://www.cripedistributing.com/al....html?osCsid=44e50a017d238d66ad866b33429dd482

Be careful though, I did search for Allen on Cripe and a lot of the stuff like their current chrome sockets listed look like they are Chinese.

I agree with the above, very industrial, no non-sense tools that don't look great but get the job done. Kinda like a cheap JH Williams.

I grabbed a set of those Chinese Allen wrenches from cripe. I like them better than my USA Cman RP. These would be really good road tools for anyone. Those prices are a steal, even if they are Chinese, which I'm sure they are. I might have to go find a Menards tomorrow.

Edit: just looked for the closest store. It's like 80 miles away. Probably a good thing.
 
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Great mid price no frills tools. Used to be the same as K-D, Napa, or Craftsman. With expansion of Gearwrench (that killed off KD hand tools) many Allen items are now either made in Taiwan or the PRC. Some of those bargains you see on Ebay (like the fully polished wrench set) from Allen are now closer to resembling Evolve tools than the old US made Allen tools. I wouldn't buy any Allen tools sight unseen but, that's just me.:beer:
 
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At my menards they are being replaced by the made in usa mastercraft wrenchs and socket sets which are basically the same tool with a different name on them. They now are a menards store brand. They basically will say Mastercraft instead of allen on their made in the usa wrench and socket sets.
 

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I do have an older set of allen branded combo wrenchs and have yet to break one. They are nicely made for the price.
 
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are these sales on their website or local? that's a slammin' deal if they're the USA ALLEN brand.

Page 6 of the "March Madness Sale"

http://menards.inserts2online.com/customer_Frame.jsp?drpStoreID=1

I'm going to look at them tonight.

Last time I was there I noticed the Menard's brand Masterforce hand tools have the "Made In The USA" logo, but I didn't look at the power tools.

BTW - You can order online. I get "online only" specials in my email almost daily.

As much as we spend there with the rentals and our home, they also signed us up for the free Contractor's Program.
 
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I bought an Allen set from Menard's around Christmas that was metric/SAE, 1/4 & 3/8 drive with deepwells,ratchets and extensions and a 3/8 drive teardrop style ratchet. Real nice finish for a driveway set. There were 14 or so metric/SAE combo wrenches with the set as well, they were ugly, poorly finished ****. I think I paid about 45.00 for the set. I shitcanned the blowmolded box they came in, I'm pretty sure they are Chinese.
 

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Page 6 of the "March Madness Sale"

http://menards.inserts2online.com/customer_Frame.jsp?drpStoreID=1

I'm going to look at them tonight.

Last time I was there I noticed the Menard's brand Masterforce hand tools have the "Made In The USA" logo, but I didn't look at the power tools.

BTW - You can order online. I get "online only" specials in my email almost daily.

As much as we spend there with the rentals and our home, they also signed us up for the free Contractor's Program.

I bought these yesterday morning when they went on sale - the $8something screwdriver and wrench sets, and a $9something wrench set with a larger slip-joint in it.

The screwdrivers are as cheap as possible. You're better off buying the Harbor Freights. I bought both pliers sets and they are okay quality, but probably the same as Harbor Freight or Masterforce. All are made in China.

If I had known, I wouldn't have wasted my time on them. The socket sets and regular combination wrenches seem to be a much more quality tool. These are definitely a cheap consumer brand.
 

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Can't comment on the quality of the newer Asia sourced tools. But as others have said be aware that there is old stock around that was made in the USA while the fantastic price stuff will typically be Asian from what I have seen.

Ebay seems to have old stock USA wrenches with reasonable prices. With the USA wrenches you need to be aware of Satin finish versus polished.

Just need to be an informed consumer. Whether the price difference between Asia stuff and USA stuff is worth to you, you'll have to decide. Make sure you investigate to make sure you know what you are getting.
 

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i was at menards on sun, all the ALLEN brand individual sockets & wrenches i looked at were marked USA.
everything i saw masterforce (?) brand was made overseas.

if i needed extra wrenches or sockets, i wouldnt hesitate to pick them up.


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I was in 2 Menards in North Dakota over the last few weeks. I saw several Allan branded and Masterforce branded socket sets and wrench sets that were identical. Both said made in USA. Same packaging, same color, same, tools, just different label.

Yes, their screwdrivers are Chinese, don't appear to be anything special, besides a great price for a big set.

BTW, Masterforce is the Menards house brand. Mastercraft is the Canadian Tire house brand.
 
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diggerrick

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I finally made it back to Menard's today to check out the Allen tools on sale. The screwdriver and pliers sets both said "Made In China" on the back. The combination wrench set on sale was not Allen. There was a smaller set of larger Allen screwdrivers on sale also for like $12.99, but I think I'll end up getting screwdrivers and pliers with the HF coupons.

The "Made In The USA" Allen sets, and some of the Chinese Allen sets were on sale at prices I won't pay. I don't need more tools, I just like having multiple sets of stuff so I don't have to go to the garage or my shop everytime I need something.

Thanks for the input.
 

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I have been slowly buying up the Allen stuff that is made in USA at my local Menard's, which is three blocks away. I got two sets of the 18 piece combo wrench sets at $43 each. I think I paid $40 for their 1/2 inch drive socket set which is USA made also. They are nicely made for the price and I'm happy as hell with them. Going back to get some of their 1/4 and 3/8 inch sets, in the next day or so.
Jim
 

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My Allen wrenches look just like my MATCO wrenches. The ratchets and sockets look the same too. All made in USA
 

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