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Allen Wrench Cheater Bar

ekk33

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I am looking for a Allen Wrench Cheater Bar.
I used to work with some toolmakers who had a brass hammer with an aluminium handle.
The back of the hammer head had a groove that a Allen Wrench fit into to use it for a cheater bar.
Does anyone have one or know who made them?
I tried Google but, so far no luck.
I would like to get one for myself
Thanks

Eric
 
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Sounds like he had a Saf-Kee. They were made by P.X. Industries Inc. sold in sets of 3 for $49.95
I have been on the hunt for a set of these since I first saw them here on garage journal. Currently there is a set on letgo in Plympton


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Ummm- we just use an appropriate sized piece of pipe. I made a set of different diameters and lengths, and even knurled a grip on one end. Those hammers are cool, though.
 

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I just have a small piece of pipe with mine as well that way it can work on either end of the wrench. It’s worked well work me. Especially if it’s a spot I can’t use a hex socket on a ratchet.
 

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This is one area where simple is best. A couple pieces of pipe with different inside diameters would be the best solution. I have a bunch of different ones of various sizes that I use when needed. Most of the time a socket/extension/ratchet combo will work but sometimes an allen wrench and a piece of pipe is the best for the job.
 

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I use various hex bits as it's just another drive type that works with my drivers and ratchets.

If you must use these cereal box toys ;) then I suggest sliding a box end wrench over the key.
 

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I can twist most of my hex keys noticeably without a cheater. For larger sizes I usually use a socket on a ratchet or breaker bar. A box end, adjustable wrench or even pliers work as a cheater if necessary.
 
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ekk33

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Thanks all
Safe-kee was what I was looking for
I just use pipes at home , but work is eliminating cheater bars, so I need an alternative
Thanks
 

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If I need a cheater on an Allen wrench, I just use a six point socket the same size on an extension. Then I can vary the length as needed. That Saf-kee is really cool, will have to keep my eyes open for one.
 
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I'd like to know more about this. Can that handle accept the long side of an 'L' hex wrench also, or just the short? What's the range of sizes it works well with?

edit: I like the "Product description" at that Amazon link.



:lol:

They sell it with a allen wrench set that goes up to 10mm. Judging from the photos, it looks like it should for the 10mm wrench.

A bit more data on it:

https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/mutsuura/item/10128341/
 

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Sounds like a bad idea to me. Neither the Allen key nor the hex fastener is particularly strong. You'll probably break one or the other.
 

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I have an older husky set that came with a really nice plastic block thing with different sized holes in it. You put the hex key in there and then a collar slides over locking it in
 

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We use them all day, every day. If you use a decent hex key (I use Wera) they'll hold up. I've had my current SAE set for years without replacing one. The molds we work on have high grade socket head cap screws, and they get tight. Hold a hex key in your hand, and they let go with a SNAP and you get a handful of bees. A cheater is pretty much a necessity.
 

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We use them all day, every day. If you use a decent hex key (I use Wera) they'll hold up. I've had my current SAE set for years without replacing one. The molds we work on have high grade socket head cap screws, and they get tight. Hold a hex key in your hand, and they let go with a SNAP and you get a handful of bees. A cheater is pretty much a necessity.

Same here. Mold hardware can get pretty tight after all the heating and cooling cycles. Toss in a little water and the rust can add a little more to it. A three foot pipe on a 19mm hex key is a common occurrence where I'm at. I use Bondhus.
 

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Sounds like a bad idea to me. Neither the Allen key nor the hex fastener is particularly strong. You'll probably break one or the other.

??? I work on CNC machines and many have ZERO hex head bolts, all Allen head cap screws. Mostly grade 8 or metric 12.9.

They are just as strong as any hex head bolt. Smaller sizes such as 3 and 4 mm can wear but those are the common size of panel screws which you may remove and install a 100 or more in a day. We use shop made cheater pipes very similar to the wise listed above. We just cut some tubing, fish mouth the long piece and tig (at an angle like the wise) the short piece on.

It's insane the torque some times yet I can count on one hand the number of bondhus keys I have broken, mostly the ball ends off putting to much torque in odd angles.

I am using hex sockets/ratchets/impact more as my carpal tunnel is causing my hands to go numb when holding Allen keys for long periods of time.
 

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I've used a hollow-shafted 5/16" VACO nutdriver as a "cheater" on allen L-wrenches for years.

Though now I'm on the look-out for a set of those Saf-Kee's!:drool:
 

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I have a set of KD hex keys, from the 70's, in a plastic fitted case. It came with a cheater bar, solid rod probably about 5/8" diameter, with holes in the very ends. 1 end has a 7/16" hole or so, other end has 2 holes, maybe 1/8" and 1/4". works slick.

Nice project if you have a lathe, requires a 4 jaw chuck to offset the rod on the 2 hole end.
 
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I picked up a pair of safe-kees in an auction lot last year (and thank the GJ brain trust for helping me figure out what they were). I can't remember the last time I used an Allen wrench, I'd let them go for a reasonable offer to redirect funds to more Milwaukee tools if someone is interested.a78f2d9dc2892c6deac1a01b7c7314b6.jpg

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I've had these for near 10 years now and sadly they hardly ever get any use since I rarely deal with in-hex fasteners.

The red one is the original 'Triple Handle' and the yellow one is their newer 'Return Handle'

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