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Alright, I'm stumped. What is it?

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This came up on one of the local auctions I watch, along with a bunch of other woodshop equipment. The only description it had for the item is "Shop Equipment", which tells me the person who listed it for sale isn't quite sure what it is either.

Anyone know what it does?

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I've never seen one of those before. If I were you, I would buy it for a couple of reasons. Its cheap and it would be a great conversation piece since not many people know what it is.

If you've got room for it, buy it.
 

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I just think it's awesome that a Texan is using the term “I’m stumped”. Did you grow up in England, Australia, India or another cricket-playing colony?

Really not an uncommon phrase here in the states. I've heard it often, never really gave much thought to the origin.
 

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666: i'd probably buy it too for $25 cause even if you don't have the room for it for a conversation piece i bet the motor might be worth a lot more than that if it works. or maybe you can use the heavier gauge steel cabinet for storage? or turn it into a grinder?

Hag: we use STUMPED all the time here in the states, but i'm curious how it's used in England or Down Under. does it mean you haven't a clue like it does here?
 

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I'll draw an analogy to baseball. The stumps are three wooden posts in the ground (hence the terms 'stump') are essentially the bases in baseball. A batter needs to be inside the crease (a line about 1 yard from the stumps) to be the equivalent of being 'on base' or 'safe'. If when batting you swing and miss but move outside the crease you can be tagged at home base and be out. It is the equivalent of getting sucked in by the bowler of spin (pitcher of a curve ball) and getting from a single strike. The point being you are confused. Easiest demonstrated in a video.

 

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I'll draw an analogy to baseball. The stumps are three wooden posts in the ground (hence the terms 'stump') are essentially the bases in baseball. A batter needs to be inside the crease (a line about 1 yard from the stumps) to be the equivalent of being 'on base' or 'safe'. If when batting you swing and miss but move outside the crease you can be tagged at home base and be out. It is the equivalent of getting sucked in by the bowler of spin (pitcher of a curve ball) and getting from a single strike. The point being you are confused. Easiest demonstrated in a video.


Yup. I'm confused!
I'd never considered where the term "I'm stumped" came from. Thanks for the insight.
 

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HAG: that last one really shows it, but i got the idea on the first one. now learning how the scoring and rules of Cricket you've STUMPED me good cause i really don't have a clue.

i actually started a thread in FREE PARKING on Australian rules football i think a few months ago and i'm still learning that game. we were talking about how NFL football barely allows tackling anymore and Aussie's football they don't barely wear any pads and fly at each other's heads.

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666: if you look at the top of the item we are calling a windings tool if you go into the vintage grinder's thread you'll see a lot of similarities there. it's probably got a motor with a belt driving the upper unit from below.

also those cabinets are usually built like tanks hence the value in maybe just the cabinet for storage or a base for another machine or tool. or make it a bench? i'm betting there might even be decent casters under the cabinet too so you can roll it into a corner.

HAG: thanks for the STUMPING STUFF!!
 

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I just think it's awesome that a Texan is using the term “I’m stumped”. Did you grow up in England, Australia, India or another cricket-playing colony?

A common figure of speech here in the Colonies (the American ones), though I had no idea it had anything to do with cricket. We also use "cricket" as a synonym for correct, equitable, proper. Usually in the negative like, regarding a deceptive deal, "That ain't cricket".

I recently tried to read up on cricket to gain some understanding of the game. After a couple of hours of reading, the ONLY understanding I achieved was the reason the bowler throws in such a peculiar manner.:lol_hitti
 

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I would have guessed it was some special-purpose component to a lathe. What a great site!

"Stumped", I grew up hearing and using in the context of guessing games (20 questions, riddles, etc) specifically describing the condition of being unable to guess the answer, nor being able to think of another question. No one I knew ever betrayed any knowledge it was derived from cricket. I imagined a simpler metaphor of being stranded atop the stump of a tree (common enough where I grew up), unable to ascend to further height. (Probably influenced by "treed", as "the dogs treed a raccoon, cat, 'possum, etc.)
Checking Trickypedia, it seems the game of cricket would have been familiar enough to English-speaking American colonists, and the use of "stumped" in the given sense could have persisted, even as immigrants from other cultures and the emergence of other games left us without a memory of its origin.
Similarly, British nautical terms persist in American English, despite most speakers not recognizing them as such. (Like "stranded" as used above. Or "taken aback", "three sheets to the wind", "throw me a line", etc.)
 
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A common figure of speech here in the Colonies (the American ones), though I had no idea it had anything to do with cricket. We also use "cricket" as a synonym for correct, equitable, proper. Usually in the negative like, regarding a deceptive deal, "That ain't cricket".

"That's not cricket" means you are operating within the rules of the game/law but not in the spirit of it. Your deceptive deal example is right - the deal probably wasn't illegal but still shady.

Cricket is supposed to be a gentlemanly sport and a lot of emphasis is placed on playing by the spirit of that. For example, more so in than baseball, there are times where is it unclear if a batter is out - lets say the ball just nicks the bat by the slightest edge and the ball is caught. In this example the batsman is actually best-placed to make the judgement on whether he is out or not and the umpire places significant weight on the batsman's opinion of whether he the bat touched the ball or not. You can see the ethical dilemma here. There have been many occasions where an umpire has judged a batsman out who has subsequently refused to walk so the umpire reverses their decision.

So when you are operating within the rules of the game but not the spirit of it you'll hear "that's just not cricket". He's completely in his rights to stand his ground irrespective of whether he's out or not but its's considered bad sportsmanship.

Similarly if a fielder takes a catch as the ball about to hit the ground it might not be clear if it bounced first. The umpire will probably just asked the fielder 'did you catch that?' and takes his word on the matter. Again there is a strong motivation for the fielder to lie about this.
 

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There have been many occasions where an umpire has judged a batsman out who has subsequently refused to walk so the umpire reverses their decision.

Seriously? :wtf:

Umpires in baseball never reverse decisions. In is in. Over the plate is over the plate. Out is out.
 
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666: i'd probably buy it too for $25 cause even if you don't have the room for it for a conversation piece i bet the motor might be worth a lot more than that if it works. or maybe you can use the heavier gauge steel cabinet for storage? or turn it into a grinder?

Hag: we use STUMPED all the time here in the states, but i'm curious how it's used in England or Down Under. does it mean you haven't a clue like it does here?
I would if it was 120miles away (I like to play a game called lets see how big of an item my sister, who goes to this university, can move and store for a while) and if they didn't have...

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6" wilton vise that is currently at $50 bid...

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panther air compressor currently at $25 bid...

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Bench grinder currently at a $35 bid (would be a lot easier to make this into a working grinder than it would be to make the coil winder into one too lol)

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powermatic planer currently at $375 bid (my sister probably won't be able to fit this into her car, but I'm sure I'll make it work on the off chance it stays low enough I can afford this lol)

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3 electric lifts and a hose reel currently at a $45 bid

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3 shop vacs currently at a $5 bid

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Gorton Mastermil Milling Machine currently at $75 (missing parts it looks like, but if I can somehow get this moved I can probably fix it!)

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Rockwell Delta lathe currently at $25 bid

They will all surely increase a ton in price before ending, but on the off chance they don't there's some good items. If I had more money and more space for it these would all be great deals.

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They also have this cool old international harvester refrigerator for auction, which seems kind of unusual for them to hold onto for so long.

I just think it's awesome that a Texan is using the term “I’m stumped”. Did you grow up in England, Australia, India or another cricket-playing colony?

Nope, I didn't have any idea about the origin of that either. Thanks for the knowledge lol
 
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I just think it's awesome that a Texan is using the term “I’m stumped”. Did you grow up in England, Australia, India or another cricket-playing colony?

A buddy moved to Oz for a job. His wife said "I'm stuffed" after a big dinner at a new friends house.

Oh, and you don't "root" for a team !
 
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