Alternatives to the usual impacts...

[Ruger_556]

I have a 2135TiMAX... It's worn out. I have to say I'm not exactly blown away. Yeah, I know working torque and bolt size etc... but come on, it needs to do better than I can with a breaker bar. The "nut busting torque" well, ahaha, right guys My snub nose CP 450 ft-lb gun is so close in reverse it's not even funny.

Looking at old school industrial impacts that I know will actually last. Anyone have this CP? http://www.cp.com/usen/whatwedo/powertools/ecatalogue/?family=1&filterby=all

I like my Proto 3/4 but the reverse lever/trigger is annoying and I don't want it on my go to gun.

I despise SO guns. Probably the most awkward gun to use, ever...

I've been having to get out the flame wrench for changing brake chambers. No bueno, and very irritating. So time for a new gun, any other industrial grade guns out there?

 

[Ruger_556]

I see my link isn't going to work but its the CP 6500-RSR

 

[Wamsutta]

Have you thought about rebuilding your 2135TiMAX instead of buying a new one? A lot of times all they need is new air vanes.

 

[Danglerb]

I'd try a rebuild kit before buying a new one, but I have a quality HF that still works fine.

Loss of power could be needs cleaning maybe.

 

[MattPersman]

You don't like the snap on mg725? I like it other than full retail price but that why there are options out there. You could always trade your TI in on one to try

Perhaps stickman56 can chime in, he seems to have taken many of the guns apart fixed them and used them, knows strong and week points. I thought he was some aircat employee at first but he seems to know his stuff and is valuable here.

I have heard good things about the napa/cornwell gun made by PTP. It's napa part number 6-1123 http://propowerseries.com/products.html

I bought the top CP probably 5 or so years ago at the time, it wasn't a bad gun at all. I liked my 2135 better that I had so I never used it much, I used it as a back up and loaner to other co workers for a while now it sits in my basement never had any complaints about it being a POS or weak.

Also if you really like IR you probably know they have the new one coming out.

 

[komobu]

Personally, I love my IR 2135qti.It has worked great for me for the last 4 or 5 years. I am also ashamed to say that I very rarely oil it. What I like most about it is the noise level. The snap on mg 725 is definitely more powerful, but it seems twice as heavy and after taking a few wheels off you cant hear yourself think!

One solution you may want to consider is to rebuild your IR and use it for common stuff and get a 3/4 gun when you really need the torque...like on those honda crankshaft bolts.

 

[joedodge]

I'd give a rebuild a shot man. Befor blowing money on another gun. I've got the same gun you have and do everything from cars to tractor trailer daily and rarely have an issues. But I have had Impacts take a **** quickly and then rebuild and there great

 

[rlebroke51]

Cornwell 4150, if you have a dealer that is the gun to have. I have one and it hits harder than my 1" snap on.

 

[RedneckWelder]

Cornwell 4150, if you have a dealer that is the gun to have. I have one and it hits harder than my 1" snap on.

I'm pretty sure the 4150 has the same switch style as his Proto 3/4 impact.


All I can say is I've been doing good work with a Nitrocat 1200k. You may want to try the rebuild suggestion or you may want to hold out for Ingersoll's new gun that's coming out to replace the 2135.

 

[bobcatdan]

I wonder if you are over estimating the power of a 1/2" gun. I know once I got a 3/4" gun, 1/2" guns in general seam weak.

 

[Ruger_556]

I wonder if you are over estimating the power of a 1/2" gun. I know once I got a 3/4" gun, 1/2" guns in general seam weak.

It was okay when it was new. Lately every other bolt it won't break loose. I'll probably rebuild it and take it home but I want something that will last awhile at work. My 3/4 just oozes power but a lot of places a 1/2 gun is all that will fit so it needs to hang on for a beating.

I know what killed it, we have a bunch of screw type presses for kingpins, anchor pins, etc... It just doesn't seem to hold up to the constant hammering. I use the 3/4 for that duty when I can but you get inside frame rails and a lot of the time you just can't get in.

 

[jmm]

I use the 3/4 for that duty when I can but you get inside frame rails and a lot of the time you just can't get in.

I feel your pain!

I can't speak from personal experience, since I use an Aircat. It's nice and incredibly powerful, but they're not known for longevity. That's okay with me, considering the price tag.

However, when I worked in industry all of our air tools were supplied. The production area had a mix of older CP which were being replaced with baseline model IRs (when the CPs were so beat they couldn't be rebuilt anymore). Those old CPs were tough! No telling how many years they had on them. In our department moisture was pretty low, and the temp was pretty constant. In other departments conditions were a lot worse, which would beat up equipment and create RUST like you wouldn't believe. Those guys got Sioux air tools. I didn't get to use them very often since they weren't in my department, but man those things were seriously NICE. I've heard Sioux makes impacts for a certain tool truck brand, but I can't confirm that...

 

[May Pop]

How long did the TiMAX last?

 

[joedodge]

I think these something wrong or your overestimating what it can do man. It should work ball joint presses all day

 

[merbie]

Are cp impacts any good?


Sent from the sticks

 

[dfreeman616]

I have the same it and have found it to be pretty good for the 1/2" class. I rebuilt it awhile back cause of low power, huge difference for I think 40 bucks

 

[Ruger_556]

How long did the TiMAX last?

8 months... I'd just send it in and warranty it but I only have one gun and it's not technically broken

I think these something wrong or your overestimating what it can do man. It should work ball joint presses all day

That's what I'm sayin' Actually it's main duty is a couple Tiger Tool presses. Ball joint presses are toys by comparison. Maybe more than a year is just too much to expect In any case I'll rebuild it and use it at home.

Are cp impacts any good?


Sent from the sticks

Not usually the highest power guns on the market but they seem to last forever. Probably what my next gun is going to be.

 

[Skin]

New IR should be out any week now.

 

[shiftdrift]

Mg725

 

[stikman56]

I have a 2135TiMAX... It's worn out. I have to say I'm not exactly blown away. Yeah, I know working torque and bolt size etc... but come on, it needs to do better than I can with a breaker bar. The "nut busting torque" well, ahaha, right guys My snub nose CP 450 ft-lb gun is so close in reverse it's not even funny.

Looking at old school industrial impacts that I know will actually last. Anyone have this CP? http://www.cp.com/usen/whatwedo/powertools/ecatalogue/?family=1&filterby=all

I like my Proto 3/4 but the reverse lever/trigger is annoying and I don't want it on my go to gun.

I despise SO guns. Probably the most awkward gun to use, ever...

I've been having to get out the flame wrench for changing brake chambers. No bueno, and very irritating. So time for a new gun, any other industrial grade guns out there?

CAT4150 is one of my favorites for sure. Really strong. Great wrench IMO. Can't say on the CP's, haven't owned any, but I know people swear by them. I fully agree with you on SO impacts, I'll never own one. The weakest point I've found with the Nitrocat 1200K is the pins for the hammers, like all pins they don't last as long as twin hammers do. They are strong and smooth though. The Aircat's do have twin hammers though, and I hear the 1150K is a monster too. I gotta say, I'd like to try the Husky H4480, it looks to be the Mac AWQP120 and Sunex SX4345 that were made by PTP and good strong wrenches. That Husky could be the best bang for the buck at 800 torques. I think about 80 bucks gets a new one on ebay. And I almost forgot the ATD2102, it's sold under many different names, like the Nesco NP745XLT, I even have two of them from back when Harbor Freight sold them as US General composite impacts. They have been flat out tough as nails, they are strong too. I use one all the time at work, have for several years.
Anyway, a few thoughts on the low power, as I've seen this before on used wrenches. Check the inlet, there's a screen at the bottom, I've seen them clogged up with teflon tape, etc. Check the back where the direction buttons are, when you pull the trigger, you don't want any air coming out there, if it is, it blew an o-ring on the direction valve and that makes them weak. If that checks out ,if you have time, take it apart and take a look on the inside. I've also seen them with the motors gummed up and losing power because of that, and also a big one there can be wear of the motor end plate, sometimes a lot, and if they do they lose power from that. Really, the most important part of the vanes I've found is end to end, they need to seal well between the motor end plates, they slide out when the rotor rotates and touch the cylinder walls, even when they wear down some. I've honestly never had a weak wrench that was that way because of the vanes or bearings. It's always an air leak problem somewhere , worn end plate, an air supply problem or worn hammers and anvil where they contact each other.

 

[Kent_B]

Are cp impacts any good?


Sent from the sticks

I have a CP-745 that's at least 25 years old. It works like a champ and thrives on Marvel Mystery Oil. I don't turn wrenches for a living anymore, but glad I kept all that old ****.