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gamp945

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For those who have purchased the Starrett punches: is the Starrett name etched or stamped on the tool? From looking through photos, it appears that some of the reviews on Amazon that show broken or defective punches have an etched name. It might be the case that the etched name indicates a fake. It also might be the case that the etched name may be a result of Starrett changing production from USA to China.

The problem with buying this kind of thing from Amazon is that they co-mingle stock from all sellers that pay Amazon to fulfill orders. If seller "A" sends a shipment of 100 authentic punches to Amazon and seller "B" sends a shipment of 100 fake punches to Amazon, the authentic and fake punches both simply get thrown (co-mingled) in the same bin labelled "Starrett 18A Punches" in an Amazon warehouse. Your order is randomly pulled from that mixed bin of mixed authentic and fake punches when you place an order from any seller, at any price, when it is listed as "ships from Amazon". You might get an authentic punch, but you also might get a fake punch.

This can sometimes work in your favor. Sometimes Amazon creates a listing at a typical retail price for a specific item (e.g., a Starrett caliper) and Amazon obtains their own authentic stock directly from Starrett. But then some small-time sellers with access to fake Starrett calipers are added to the listing as additional sellers but for 75% less than Amazon's price. Regardless of whether the bogus sellers send in fake inventory to Amazon (which is then co-mingled with Amazon's authentic inventory) or if the bogus sellers fulfill orders themselves (ships directly from the bogus seller), the favorable result can be that Amazon dramaticaly drops their own price to compete with the bogus sellers. So, you can place an order fulfilled by Amazon for 75% off typical retail price and possibly receive an authentic Starrett caliper.
 
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Well, that sounds like a pretty awful business practice. Would probably take a massive lawsuit to get that changed.

Mike
 

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Got the punch today and I dunno COS, but it takes a LOT of pressure for it to fire. I tested it in a 2x4 and had quite a hole before it fired.

Is this normal? I have an inexpensive punch and it requires much less effort.
 

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Got the punch today and I dunno COS, but it takes a LOT of pressure for it to fire. I tested it in a 2x4 and had quite a hole before it fired.

Is this normal? I have an inexpensive punch and it requires much less effort.

Wind in the handle end clockwise all the way makes a heavier dent, counter clockwise progressively lightens the dent impression created. I have never used mine on wood, on 1/4" mild steel it leaves an impression that a bit can find and not walk away. I usually leave it set on the heaviest setting, it does take a bit of effort to trigger.

 
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Wind in the handle end clockwise all the way makes a heavier dent, counter clockwise progressively lightens the dent impression created. I have never used mine on wood, on 1/4" mild steel it leaves an impression that a bit can find and not walk away. I usually leave it set on the heaviest setting, it does take a bit of effort to trigger.

Thanks! No instructions in the box and I hadn't done any research (obviously).
 

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PB Swiss ratcheting stubby for less then $50 bucks:


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I too see it at $60, I paid $80 July of last year. Includes a PH1, PH2, SL3, T15, T20, and T25.

If you want a really small stubby, I love this Wera for $56

If you want stubby and very inexpensive, give the milwaukee for $19 a try

The 48-22-2913 comes with a magnetic extension as shown in the images, but that can be removed which makes it even more stubby, but not as stubby as the Wera. I bought mine at Ace for $20

 

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For those who have purchased the Starrett punches: is the Starrett name etched or stamped on the tool? From looking through photos, it appears that some of the reviews on Amazon that show broken or defective punches have an etched name. It might be the case that the etched name indicates a fake. It also might be the case that the etched name may be a result of Starrett changing production from USA to China.

The problem with buying this kind of thing from Amazon is that they co-mingle stock from all sellers that pay Amazon to fulfill orders. If seller "A" sends a shipment of 100 authentic punches to Amazon and seller "B" sends a shipment of 100 fake punches to Amazon, the authentic and fake punches both simply get thrown (co-mingled) in the same bin labelled "Starrett 18A Punches" in an Amazon warehouse. Your order is randomly pulled from that mixed bin of mixed authentic and fake punches when you place an order from any seller, at any price, when it is listed as "ships from Amazon". You might get an authentic punch, but you also might get a fake punch.

This can sometimes work in your favor. Sometimes Amazon creates a listing at a typical retail price for a specific item (e.g., a Starrett caliper) and Amazon obtains their own authentic stock directly from Starrett. But then some small-time sellers with access to fake Starrett calipers are added to the listing as additional sellers but for 75% less than Amazon's price. Regardless of whether the bogus sellers send in fake inventory to Amazon (which is then co-mingled with Amazon's authentic inventory) or if the bogus sellers fulfill orders themselves (ships directly from the bogus seller), the favorable result can be that Amazon dramaticaly drops their own price to compete with the bogus sellers. So, you can place an order fulfilled by Amazon for 75% off typical retail price and possibly receive an authentic Starrett caliper.
I've have had one for more than 20 years and I looked at it yesterday when I used it being that it was being discussed, it has no markings on it.
 

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For those who have purchased the Starrett punches: is the Starrett name etched or stamped on the tool? From looking through photos, it appears that some of the reviews on Amazon that show broken or defective punches have an etched name. It might be the case that the etched name indicates a fake. It also might be the case that the etched name may be a result of Starrett changing production from USA to China.

The problem with buying this kind of thing from Amazon is that they co-mingle stock from all sellers that pay Amazon to fulfill orders. If seller "A" sends a shipment of 100 authentic punches to Amazon and seller "B" sends a shipment of 100 fake punches to Amazon, the authentic and fake punches both simply get thrown (co-mingled) in the same bin labelled "Starrett 18A Punches" in an Amazon warehouse. Your order is randomly pulled from that mixed bin of mixed authentic and fake punches when you place an order from any seller, at any price, when it is listed as "ships from Amazon". You might get an authentic punch, but you also might get a fake punch.

This can sometimes work in your favor. Sometimes Amazon creates a listing at a typical retail price for a specific item (e.g., a Starrett caliper) and Amazon obtains their own authentic stock directly from Starrett. But then some small-time sellers with access to fake Starrett calipers are added to the listing as additional sellers but for 75% less than Amazon's price. Regardless of whether the bogus sellers send in fake inventory to Amazon (which is then co-mingled with Amazon's authentic inventory) or if the bogus sellers fulfill orders themselves (ships directly from the bogus seller), the favorable result can be that Amazon dramaticaly drops their own price to compete with the bogus sellers. So, you can place an order fulfilled by Amazon for 75% off typical retail price and possibly receive an authentic Starrett caliper.
Got mine today and can confirm the name is etched on the tool. I haven't had any time to test her out in the garage but I will report back in the next day or two to see how it works. From the looks of it - it appears to be the real deal
 

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For those who have purchased the Starrett punches: is the Starrett name etched or stamped on the tool? From looking through photos, it appears that some of the reviews on Amazon that show broken or defective punches have an etched name. It might be the case that the etched name indicates a fake. It also might be the case that the etched name may be a result of Starrett changing production from USA to China.

The problem with buying this kind of thing from Amazon is that they co-mingle stock from all sellers that pay Amazon to fulfill orders. If seller "A" sends a shipment of 100 authentic punches to Amazon and seller "B" sends a shipment of 100 fake punches to Amazon, the authentic and fake punches both simply get thrown (co-mingled) in the same bin labelled "Starrett 18A Punches" in an Amazon warehouse. Your order is randomly pulled from that mixed bin of mixed authentic and fake punches when you place an order from any seller, at any price, when it is listed as "ships from Amazon". You might get an authentic punch, but you also might get a fake punch.

This can sometimes work in your favor. Sometimes Amazon creates a listing at a typical retail price for a specific item (e.g., a Starrett caliper) and Amazon obtains their own authentic stock directly from Starrett. But then some small-time sellers with access to fake Starrett calipers are added to the listing as additional sellers but for 75% less than Amazon's price. Regardless of whether the bogus sellers send in fake inventory to Amazon (which is then co-mingled with Amazon's authentic inventory) or if the bogus sellers fulfill orders themselves (ships directly from the bogus seller), the favorable result can be that Amazon dramaticaly drops their own price to compete with the bogus sellers. So, you can place an order fulfilled by Amazon for 75% off typical retail price and possibly receive an authentic Starrett caliper.
Mine is marked.
 
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The proto wrenches are still showing $24 for me. I ordered a set this morning, we’ll see what happens. Also I’ve never really had a problem with eBay, they’ve always made things right for me when there was a problem.
 

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The proto wrenches are still showing $24 for me. I ordered a set this morning, we’ll see what happens. Also I’ve never really had a problem with eBay, they’ve always made things right for me when there was a problem.
Wanna order me a set?! I'll pay ya double! Hah.

I see $617 on my end, can never figure out of these Amazon prices are somehow regional or account based.
 

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For those who have purchased the Starrett punches: is the Starrett name etched or stamped on the tool? From looking through photos, it appears that some of the reviews on Amazon that show broken or defective punches have an etched name. It might be the case that the etched name indicates a fake. It also might be the case that the etched name may be a result of Starrett changing production from USA to China.

The problem with buying this kind of thing from Amazon is that they co-mingle stock from all sellers that pay Amazon to fulfill orders. If seller "A" sends a shipment of 100 authentic punches to Amazon and seller "B" sends a shipment of 100 fake punches to Amazon, the authentic and fake punches both simply get thrown (co-mingled) in the same bin labelled "Starrett 18A Punches" in an Amazon warehouse. Your order is randomly pulled from that mixed bin of mixed authentic and fake punches when you place an order from any seller, at any price, when it is listed as "ships from Amazon". You might get an authentic punch, but you also might get a fake punch.

This can sometimes work in your favor. Sometimes Amazon creates a listing at a typical retail price for a specific item (e.g., a Starrett caliper) and Amazon obtains their own authentic stock directly from Starrett. But then some small-time sellers with access to fake Starrett calipers are added to the listing as additional sellers but for 75% less than Amazon's price. Regardless of whether the bogus sellers send in fake inventory to Amazon (which is then co-mingled with Amazon's authentic inventory) or if the bogus sellers fulfill orders themselves (ships directly from the bogus seller), the favorable result can be that Amazon dramaticaly drops their own price to compete with the bogus sellers. So, you can place an order fulfilled by Amazon for 75% off typical retail price and possibly receive an authentic Starrett caliper.
Just read this article about Amazon stopping commingling of products. Thought I’d pass it along. https://apple.news/AjPmWwgeiQHeetZbrDS8Ixw
 

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Just read this article about Amazon stopping commingling of products. Thought I’d pass it along. https://apple.news/AjPmWwgeiQHeetZbrDS8Ixw
That would be nice, if and when it ever actually happens.

That said, if any organization on the planet has the resources, reach, and market power to end counterfeiting and become a trustworthy supplier, it's Amazon.

Counterfeiting, commingling, ratings scams, product listing scams, and all the rest of the bizarre bazaar nonsense on Amazon is 1,000% a choice on Amazon's part.

If enabling fraud makes them one more penny than stopping it, so far they have always chosen that extra penny. But we're at the point where no one who has any clue will order anything that matters on Amazon, and so maybe they're finally catching on that trust actually matters. Not that I personally particularly want Amazon to get bigger or Bezos & Co. to get even more disgustingly wealthy, but it's always seemed very weird to me that they continued to facilitate so much fraud with no regard for reputation.

Interesting how Amazon and the article never once mentioned consumers or buyers, only suppliers unhappy that their goods were mixed with counterfeits.





As to the actual topic of this thread, my favorite buy so far from much earlier in the thread is this set of wood composite handled Vessel screwdrivers, still a deal at $50. Ridiculous quality, and pure luxury to use. Plus, the shaft goes all the way through and they have a metal cap, so you can beat on 'em if you need to. It feels very wrong to hammer on something so pretty, but they really can take it!

 
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Well discussed online.
Sellers can avoid it if they choose.
...pay extra.

Fixed that for you.

To avoid commingling, sellers have long had the option to apply a unique, seller-specific Amazon barcode — known as an FNSKU (Fulfillment Network Stock Keeping Unit) — to every product. This ensures their inventory is tracked and shipped separately.

But this “re-stickering,” as it’s known, is costly and time-consuming solution. Sellers had to print the FNSKU labels and apply them to all their items before shipping them to Amazon, or pay Amazon a per-item fee to do it for them. Amazon estimates that brand owners spent $600 million in the past year alone to avoid having their products commingled.
 

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For those who have purchased the Starrett punches: is the Starrett name etched or stamped on the tool? From looking through photos, it appears that some of the reviews on Amazon that show broken or defective punches have an etched name. It might be the case that the etched name indicates a fake. It also might be the case that the etched name may be a result of Starrett changing production from USA to China.

The problem with buying this kind of thing from Amazon is that they co-mingle stock from all sellers that pay Amazon to fulfill orders. If seller "A" sends a shipment of 100 authentic punches to Amazon and seller "B" sends a shipment of 100 fake punches to Amazon, the authentic and fake punches both simply get thrown (co-mingled) in the same bin labelled "Starrett 18A Punches" in an Amazon warehouse. Your order is randomly pulled from that mixed bin of mixed authentic and fake punches when you place an order from any seller, at any price, when it is listed as "ships from Amazon". You might get an authentic punch, but you also might get a fake punch.

This can sometimes work in your favor. Sometimes Amazon creates a listing at a typical retail price for a specific item (e.g., a Starrett caliper) and Amazon obtains their own authentic stock directly from Starrett. But then some small-time sellers with access to fake Starrett calipers are added to the listing as additional sellers but for 75% less than Amazon's price. Regardless of whether the bogus sellers send in fake inventory to Amazon (which is then co-mingled with Amazon's authentic inventory) or if the bogus sellers fulfill orders themselves (ships directly from the bogus seller), the favorable result can be that Amazon dramaticaly drops their own price to compete with the bogus sellers. So, you can place an order fulfilled by Amazon for 75% off typical retail price and possibly receive an authentic Starrett caliper.
unless it's usa made close out from HJE tools, i've wrote off starret after Tubal Cains\mr petes video,

EDIT: wrong video, please hold EDIT: good luck finding that video mrpete222 has too many videos to possibly search through.

ANYWAYS Starret was bought out by private equity and enshitified as PE firms do, hence the move to china.

especially amazon where the store randomly chooses different sellers based on price and whatnot
 
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That link fails for me... Try this


Williams JHWS-52EHA 1/2-Inch Drive Enclosed Head Ratchet with Chrome Finish, Single Pawl Ratchet Design, 36 Tooth Gear Engagement - 10-1/4 Inch​


Currently over 50 percent off so like $27.

If you like Williams ratchets, a good deal.
 

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unless it's usa made close out from HJE tools, i've wrote off starret after Tubal Cains\mr petes video,

EDIT: wrong video, please hold EDIT: good luck finding that video mrpete222 has too many videos to possibly search through.

ANYWAYS Starret was bought out by private equity and enshitified as PE firms do, hence the move to china.

especially amazon where the store randomly chooses different sellers based on price and whatnot

I think this is the video:

 

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The proto wrenches are still showing $24 for me. I ordered a set this morning, we’ll see what happens. Also I’ve never really had a problem with eBay, they’ve always made things right for me when there was a problem.

Order me a set and I’ll pay you double lol
 

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Good reviews for what it is:


Should be $14.99
I like this screwdriver. I discuss it here

Post in thread 'Reviewing bit sets I will start with 1/4" Chapman' https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...l-start-with-1-4-chapman.541201/post-10973915

Just search for

CMHT68129​

I see that I mixed a comment on the Williams ratcheting screwdriver in with the Craftsman stuff...
 
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