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Another Compressor Rebuild Project

TapperMan

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A while back I decided I wanted a bigger compressor so I could do some blasting. I'm in no rush and was looking for an interesting new project, so I decided I would piece one together.

The first piece I got was an air tank for $100 from an online surplus auction through the state university system. In the pictures, it looked like a 60 gallon horizontal tank, but when I picked it up, it turned out to be 80 gallons. It also had a vacuum pump mounted on it. Here it is cleaned up with the vacuum pump removed...

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Even though it was made in '74, there is no rust inside at all, probably due to its use as a vacuum chamber.

Last fall, I picked up a Quincy 325 compressor head off Craigslist for about $150.

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It needed a rebuild, so I started tearing it apart. I had to make some tools to remove the unloader towers and valve components. By the time it got too cold to work in my detached garage, it was completely apart. One of the valve disks was broken, and chunks of it had dinged the top of the low pressure piston, but the cylinder walls weren't damaged at all. I labeled everything and bagged it up until spring.


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I want to bead-blast the pump before reassembling, but my current compressor is way too small for the task. I checked into renting a compressor, but for the cost, I could just pick up a cheap import pump off e-bay and temporarily use it along with the 5HP motor I plan on getting.

I was about to order a $100 3HP pump, when these showed up on CL...

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... a pair of Curtis ES-20 pumps for a total of $75 from a metal scrapper. They look to be in pretty good shape, and turning the flywheels gives a good blast of air out the discharge ports. One is missing an unloader pin, but between the two, I hope to get one working.

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I still need to pick up a motor, pilot valve, safety valve, pulleys, pressure switch, motor starter, and some other miscellaneous plumbing bits. When I'm all done, I'm thinking of getting one of the Harbor Freight 212cc engines and making a portable gas-powered compressor with the Curtis.
 
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kenfain

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Congratulations Tapperman, that definitely deserves a you ****. I have that exact same tank under my Curtis compressor. What kind of cfm output from those three pumps. Mine is a two stage, but I'm thinking I might do better with a large single stage.
 

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Better check the specs of those pumps before you go too much further.

Some of the older Quincy single stage pumps are spec'd at only 90 PSI max. If you fill a tank you probably only get 80 PSI max. tank pressure given line losses.

That means it's not practical for using std. 90 PSI rated air tools. Even though 80 PSI might be barely enough you'll like be running the pump at full duty cycle just to get as high a pressure as you can.

I learned this the hard way.
 
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TapperMan

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The Quincy 325 is a two stage pump which should pump out about 18 CFM when the pump is spinning at 900 RPM. It can go up to 175 PSI.

The Curtis pumps are 3 cylinder single-stage units, which should deliver about 10.5 CFM when driven with a 3HP motor, and about 12.5 with a 5HP. The minimum RPM is listed as 500 on one of the pump lables, but I haven't found any specs yet on the max.

I did find some specs on compressors with the Fu Sheng TA-65 pump sold in Australia, which seems to be the same as the ES-20. Fu Sheng is the current parent company of FS Curtis. They are listed running at 1024 RPM and putting out 11.3 CFM, so that would seem to be a safe max. I'll double-check the specs with a local Curtis distributor when I contact them to see if I can get some of the missing unloader parts and replacement gaskets.
 

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The Quincy 325 is a two stage pump which should pump out about 18 CFM when the pump is spinning at 900 RPM. It can go up to 175 PSI.

The Quincy 325 in your possession should really be good for 200+ PSI, it's just the equipment surrounding it that's probably not going to sustain that pressure for long. :beer:
 

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Yeah, one of those single stage, with a three horsepower. That's what I'd like for my shop. I like the look of those old three cylinders fanned out like that. I think that design looks cool. Mine doesn't put out a lot more than the max for those. But it's still more than I need just to run an impact wrench. But I think those typically come with a sixty gallon tank. So that would save space. And the cool factor is over the top. Also those seem to be in excellent shape!
 
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zkling

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Please, please, please put all three pumps on that tank :D

One pump is common, sometimes two, but I don't think I have ever seen 3 or more pumps on one tank. :thumbup: You need to be that guy. ;)
 

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tank looks similar to mine. Mine is 1957 ir and was a beast that i picked up for 150 bucks. I was also under the pretenses that is was a 60 gallon tank. It was redone completely and it should last another 50 years or so. Wasn't looking for a project when i looked at it but once i saw i knew it needed to be brought back to life.
 

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TapperMan

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I used a 25% coupon and got the HF engine for $90. It fit on the old vacuum pump mounting plate, so I could fire it up for break-in.

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Given the minimum pump speed of 500 RPM and a 10.6" pulley, and a idle speed of 1800 RPM, max speed of 3600 RPM on the engine, I figure this 3.15" pulley should give a 535 min, 1070 max RPM with one of the Curtis pumps.
 

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How did you make out with your 325 ? I just bought a quincy 325-4 not working. I knew It was missing parts but it was missing more than I thought. Basically all most everything on/in the head. If I had to buy every thing provided I could find it I would have way more in vested than I'd like. I was hoping to find a junk one I could get the head off of. I was also hoping you may know where one was. I assume mine being a 325-4 that any of the 325 heads would work???? Possibly other models????
I have a small craftsmen that suits my needs know and don't plane on using this much.
My plane b is to sell parts off this one and put the money towards another pump.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
This is my first post so if I don't get much response I may start a new thread.
 

redmondjp

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How did you make out with your 325 ? I just bought a quincy 325-4 not working. I knew It was missing parts but it was missing more than I thought. Basically all most everything on/in the head. If I had to buy every thing provided I could find it I would have way more in vested than I'd like. I was hoping to find a junk one I could get the head off of. I was also hoping you may know where one was. I assume mine being a 325-4 that any of the 325 heads would work???? Possibly other models????
I have a small craftsmen that suits my needs know and don't plane on using this much.
My plane b is to sell parts off this one and put the money towards another pump.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
This is my first post so if I don't get much response I may start a new thread.

Welcome to the forum!

Yes, for your question, it would be more appropriate to start a new thread.
 
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