kamesama980
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I'm one of those that got to be a ginea pig for Rocksolid Floors. I ended up with tan. At first it looked more like the original pink silly putty but it's definitely tan after curing/drying.
It definitely looks good and brightens up the building. Since I have a 24x40 pole barn, it took four of their kits applied in about 4 sections each. By the end I was an expert but a few of the earlier sections aren't as even to eachother color-wise.
It's paper thin on the concrete, so don't go scraping metal-footed tables across it. Setting up my (also new) max-jax left a few scrapes. Tires, hard-wheeled toolboxes, max-jax wheels, etc don't leave a mark. some hydraulid oil spilled from the max-jax wiped up with a paper towel, no discoloration, no residue I could tell by touch. Concrete dust sweeps right off without leaving any behind. I'll hold off on speaking about squeegeeing, the product goes on so thin and the flakes are spread on top so they sit above the product making the surface appear uneven (see last pic)
FYI: any imperfections in the surface finish of the concrete are gonna show through. A few areas still look bad where either the PO left a leaking container of used oil that ate away at the surface or my muriatic cleaning did so. Cracks and divots: it won't fill even the tiniest of cracks, I found a few new ones after applying the product. Divots where someone took a chunk out by dropping something heavy are the same way: won't get filled unless you deliberately get some in there.
Hardest part was prep. Aside from spending most of a weekend just moving things onto shelves or to the shed, my floor was DIRTY. the PO of the property parked diesel implements in the garage and they dripped...a lot. power wash, degrease, power wash, better degreaser, hands-and-knees to scrape up tar-like residue, wash the whole floor with diluted muriatic acid, then FINALLY (after 3 days) water doesn't bead on half the surface and we can move on to rocksolids products.
their etching product works FAST. First section I did, I tried to pour it, then go back and brush it around...waaaay too late. What we ended up doing was my wife would brush it around AS I was pouring. that worked great. Maybe this is because the concrete was already scoured pretty hard before starting exposing more reaction area, speeding it up?
The actual product wasn't terribly hard to apply, I think it took 4 hours from when I went out to the garage to when I came back inside the house (including breaks between batches, time to mix each batch, and 20 minutes for a snack). I would suggest wisking it out of the bucket rather than pouring a single line of the product. the larger number of thinner beads made spreading it MUCH easier as well as better consistency section to section (controlling the pour rate is hard with so thick a liquid)
Here's the survey they sent:
Pictures:
Before:
After:
Close-up:
The whole album's here: http://s29.photobucket.com/user/kam...3&page=0&_suid=138236506596206693053619088385
It definitely looks good and brightens up the building. Since I have a 24x40 pole barn, it took four of their kits applied in about 4 sections each. By the end I was an expert but a few of the earlier sections aren't as even to eachother color-wise.
It's paper thin on the concrete, so don't go scraping metal-footed tables across it. Setting up my (also new) max-jax left a few scrapes. Tires, hard-wheeled toolboxes, max-jax wheels, etc don't leave a mark. some hydraulid oil spilled from the max-jax wiped up with a paper towel, no discoloration, no residue I could tell by touch. Concrete dust sweeps right off without leaving any behind. I'll hold off on speaking about squeegeeing, the product goes on so thin and the flakes are spread on top so they sit above the product making the surface appear uneven (see last pic)
FYI: any imperfections in the surface finish of the concrete are gonna show through. A few areas still look bad where either the PO left a leaking container of used oil that ate away at the surface or my muriatic cleaning did so. Cracks and divots: it won't fill even the tiniest of cracks, I found a few new ones after applying the product. Divots where someone took a chunk out by dropping something heavy are the same way: won't get filled unless you deliberately get some in there.
Hardest part was prep. Aside from spending most of a weekend just moving things onto shelves or to the shed, my floor was DIRTY. the PO of the property parked diesel implements in the garage and they dripped...a lot. power wash, degrease, power wash, better degreaser, hands-and-knees to scrape up tar-like residue, wash the whole floor with diluted muriatic acid, then FINALLY (after 3 days) water doesn't bead on half the surface and we can move on to rocksolids products.
their etching product works FAST. First section I did, I tried to pour it, then go back and brush it around...waaaay too late. What we ended up doing was my wife would brush it around AS I was pouring. that worked great. Maybe this is because the concrete was already scoured pretty hard before starting exposing more reaction area, speeding it up?
The actual product wasn't terribly hard to apply, I think it took 4 hours from when I went out to the garage to when I came back inside the house (including breaks between batches, time to mix each batch, and 20 minutes for a snack). I would suggest wisking it out of the bucket rather than pouring a single line of the product. the larger number of thinner beads made spreading it MUCH easier as well as better consistency section to section (controlling the pour rate is hard with so thick a liquid)
Here's the survey they sent:
Temperature at time of install: 65f at 12:30, 70f when we finished at 4:30
Ounces of remaining product: (please pour remaining into quart container) About 10-12oz (averages out since I was short in the first batch)
Concrete condition: prior to prep; very dirty. The previous owner parked diesel implements in the garage and they leaked a lot. After 3 days of degreaser, power washing, and muriatic acid, not too bad.
Were the instructions easy to understand and follow? Yes
How would you improve the instructions? 1.5gal of water and the 32oz of etching solution provided are not three parts water plus one part solution. Make sure you mention not to have anything you mind losing anywhere near the work area.
Were you surprised about anything inside? All of the chemicals were in redundant packaging.
Was there something you needed that you wish was included? A crew to clean my floor before starting.
How do you feel the concrete etch worked? It did something: it foamed up and left the concrete a different shade.
How did you like working with the pouch? It was OK. I was nervous about squishing out a side seam rather than the middle when initially mixing them but it worked fine.
Did the pouch stay intact and sealed during shipping? Yes.
Were you able to apply the product according to instructions easily? It took the first two (of four) bottles of etching solution to get the hang of how fast to pour it.
Was there enough working time to complete the process effectively? yes
What was the most difficult part about the installation? Regulating use of both the acid etch and product to get enough down to work but leave enough to finish.
How long did it take you to complete the coating process? The etching took 4-5 hrs, putting the product down was 4 hours from when we went outside to when we came back inside the house including a half hour break.
What about the application surprised you? It didn’t smell as much as I expected. Putting it down with the doors closed wasn’t fume-y
Did the product cover the square footage that was expected? Yes
Is there any color inconsistencies between pouches or in any areas? Only where I didn’t lay it down as evenly.
Did you like the color? Finish? Color looks OK, it’s a little on the pink side of tan though. Finish is rougher than I expected because the product is so thin.
How long did it take for product to be walked on? It was barely tacky after 5 hours. I didn’t check again until 24 hours later.
How simple was the installation process? Putting the product down was a whole lot easier than cleaning the floor to the point I could start using the etching solution. Getting the etching solution evenly distributed before it was spent was challenging until we figured out the trick (using a large, long handled broom to spread it as soon as it hits the concrete)
Did you install it by yourself? If not, who helped? My father-in-law and wife helped clean/prep. My wife helped etch and spread the product.
What do you like most about the finished product? It looks a LOT better than the original floor.
How easy is it to clean? It should be a lot easier.
How durable do you feel the product is? It’s thin enough to seep into the pores so hopefully it’ll stick a long time.
How does the product look and feel? Looks good, feels glossy except where the concrete is rough.
Do you feel it needs a topcoat? Yes. It’s so thin the flakes sit on top of rather than in the coating. The surface ended up somewhat rough between the flakes and concrete imperfections.
How does it meet or exceed your expectations? It’s about what I expected.
Would you recommend this product to a friend? Yes
Would you be willing to be in a short commercial for Rock Solid Floors? If you’re that desperate, sure.
Pictures:
Before:
After:
Close-up:
The whole album's here: http://s29.photobucket.com/user/kam...3&page=0&_suid=138236506596206693053619088385