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dungbeetle

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I think that aptly describes me.

I retired from being a computer programmer about 6 years ago and started doing what I did 40 years earlier when I was 16.... ie. building cars and chasing 16 year old girls (fortunately I haven't caught any, otherwise I'd be writing this from jail).

The first thing I figured out was that I needed more garage space. My brother who is a general contractor started talking about wood trusses and walls and techniques that I knew nothing about. Since I had spent the previous 30 years at a computer keyboard, I didn't have any preconceived notions about how to go about the task, so one day, I went out and bought a welder. It seemed like the thing to do at the time.

Partly because I thought it might work, and partly because I don't like heights, I welded up the entire roof of a 22 by 24 garage on the ground. It was relatively easy putting on the roofing as I stood there next to it. Using a small tractor, I picked up one side of the roof and welded a wall to it. Then I picked up the other side and welded a wall to it. At first, I only used 6 foot walls because I was being cautious.

But, things worked out well, so with more confidence, I proceeded to build a 30 x 48 foot shop with 10 foot walls for mechanic work... followed by a 30 by 24 foot shop for welding, and then the original 22 by 24 shop was expanded to 22 x 48 so it could hold a spray booth.

Anyone who finds this interesting can see greater elaboration at

http://www.ohran.com/richard/

I've insulated my shops with 1.5 inch foam insulation. It works well to keep them cool in the summer. In the winter I heat them with coal. So, even though I could probably insulate them better, it's hardly worth the effort. So far this year I have used about 4000 lbs of coal which cost me about 75 bucks.

Does this qualify me as a nut case? I haven't fully finished any cars yet, but I've had a lot of fun building these shops. I wish I could think of a reason to build another one.

Richard
 

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That's an interesting method :). We're seeing a lot of interesting DIY stuff going on here lately. Just make sure the back of your tractor is weighed down, or you might be in for a ride :eek:
 

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I would scarcely say that you’re a nut case at all. I prefer to say that we “GarageJunkies” and “Car Collectors” just have a defective gene! An incurable illness that we are born with and destine to live with. A condition that not even a good woman can cure.

BTW good build. It’s a pleasure to see the ingenuity that you have come up with. There’s noting like thinking outside of the box!

Ingenuity is the Mother of Invention,,,, Or is that Insanity? :bounce:
 

Der Bugmeister

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I'm not sure if he keeps building these things because:

- He needs more space for his projects;
- He enjoys building them; or
- More garage = less lawn to cut.

Hmmmm...or maybe all of the above.
 
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dungbeetle

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ranger_dood said:
. Just make sure the back of your tractor is weighed down, or you might be in for a ride :eek:


I was a little worried about that, too, but the tractor seemed to handle the 30 x 24 sections just fine. However, if you look at the website, you'll see that I didn't even use the tractor on the last building. I just used my transmission jack.
 

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dungbeetle

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OldCarGuy said:
I would scarcely say that you’re a nut case at all. I prefer to say that we “GarageJunkies” and “Car Collectors” just have a defective gene! An incurable illness that we are born with and destine to live with. A condition that not even a good woman can cure.

BTW good build. It’s a pleasure to see the ingenuity that you have come up with. There’s noting like thinking outside of the box!

Ingenuity is the Mother of Invention,,,, Or is that Insanity? :bounce:


The best part about it was the cost. I figure it cost me about 4500 bucks in materials for the 30 x 48 shop, and that included 2000 sq feet of concrete and a thousand bucks worth of insulation. The labor was done entirely by myself and my gardener over a period of two months with sporadic help from friends who were promised future access to the car hoist.
 

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Cool, what are the specs on the steel ? look like 2x4x1/8" ? and 2" squares ? Is that a Miller 210/251 ? good stuff there...

Yeah, wish I could give up my computer career and work with cars full time. The computer stuff was great 10 yrs ago but now its so common I just don't find the challenge in it anymore. However, while I'm good at what I do in the computers field I'm an amateur at the car stuff :lol_hitti
 
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dungbeetle

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Russell said:
Cool, what are the specs on the steel ? look like 2x4x1/8" ? and 2" squares ? Is that a Miller 210/251 ? good stuff there...

Yeah, wish I could give up my computer career and work with cars full time. The computer stuff was great 10 yrs ago but now its so common I just don't find the challenge in it anymore. However, while I'm good at what I do in the computers field I'm an amateur at the car stuff :lol_hitti


Only two sizes of metal are used. One is 1.5 x 3 inch .078 thick..... the other is 1.5 inches square, .062 thick. The welder is a Miller 185. Locally, the metal was available in 24 foot lengths which is why the building are always 24 feet in one direction. The siding comes in 16 by 3 foot sheets. Using a pitch of 6 over 12 makes the width come out somewhere around 30 feet.

I haven't written a line of code in 6 years now.... can't say that I miss it.


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Great looking Buildings, I could use a couple myself. if I had the space for one, I would build one myself. How hard was it to get the permit to build it?
 

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I agree

I'll agree with that...great looking buildings..
wonderful DIY , that will be strong and last a super long time.

Did you use ridgid foam or have the foam sprayed on the steel ?

pretty reasonable for cost too.

any more plans to add on ?

Jim
 
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dungbeetle

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Ratdawg said:
Great looking Buildings, I could use a couple myself. if I had the space for one, I would build one myself. How hard was it to get the permit to build it?

not bad... at first they wanted concrete footings going below the frost line. I think they wanted them 3 feet. But, I resisted that. 'didn't want something that permanent, in case I ever decide to move one and put a house back there. The floor is a grid of the 1.5 x 3 steel turned on edge and welded together making 10 x 12 foot boxes. It ties all the walls together fairly solidly. Rebar is welded to the grid every 18 inches sticking out into the centers which were simply filled with concrete by driving a concrete truck into the building. 'didn't have to use any concrete forms --- I just filled the boxes. They gave me the permit to go ahead in this fashion after I got a civil engineer to sign off on the design. In 5 years now heaving from frost hasn't been an issue. Basically, the whole building just floats on some roadbase. If it moves, the whole thing has to move.
 
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dungbeetle

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camarojim said:
I'll agree with that...great looking buildings..
wonderful DIY , that will be strong and last a super long time.

Did you use ridgid foam or have the foam sprayed on the steel ?

pretty reasonable for cost too.

any more plans to add on ?

Jim


I tried both types of foam. I used sheet foam in the mechanic shop and the welding shop. In the paint shop, which was the last one built, I wanted hermetic sealing as well as insulation, so I had it sprayed. It cost me 1800 dollars to do a 22 by 48 building. It ended up that the insulation cost more than the steel. If I had it to do over again, I would spray them all. In fact, some day I might have foam sprayed over the rigid foam in the other shops. It would just be a lot of work to move everything out first.

As far as adding on is concerned, I recently bought a frame rack off of the SEMA show floor. It is currently in the welding shop, but space is a little cramped. I will either increase the size of the welding shop by adding another section, or I will build another 30 x 48 building for the frame rack.

Or, I might just give up working on cars altogether and move to Tahiti and paint pictures.
 
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