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Another Porcelain Install - 2nd Try

dmeadow

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Since my previous thread devolved into a bun fight over labor rates, illegal immigration, etc., etc., I thought I would start a new one with the actual install.

Some salient facts:

Garage is ~1200 square feet (think double-deep three car garage)
House is a new build, though I did the garage floor after closing. The slab is 6 months old and in perfect condition. Had never even parked a car on it at this point.
Tile is 18"x18" porcelain, PEI 5, gray and white. It was manufactured by Inalco in Spain.
Grout is a medium-gray that I will seal later.
Install was done by contractors that work for the tile store and were hired by them.
Spacing for grout is 1/8". I wanted it as narrow as possible to minimize stains showing.

The tile was a close-out special at the store for 99 cents per square foot. It normally sold for around $3.20 to $3.50 per square foot. The store manager said his cost was about $2 per square foot. The same store had some 12"x12" tile on close-out for as little as 69 cents per square foot, but I didn't want tile that small, especially considering all the potentially-stainable grout lines that would entail. I had a fairly limited selection of tiles to choose from, as he had small quantities of most of his close-out stock. This particular tile has a bit rougher surface and a factory "chipped edge" that weren't my preference, but I liked the light color for finding renegade bolts and nuts and for general lighting. Also, it goes well with the color scheme inside the house, so SWMBO was please with it, as well!

The tile store quoted me ~$2.00 square foot for install, including grout and thinset. There is some vertical tile around the edges that he charged me $2.50 a square foot considering it required a lot of cutting. Considering the quotes I had got earlier that ranged from $2.50 to $3.75 per square foot for just the labor, I thought this was a great deal. Especially since the store would be responsible for the labor and the quality of the install. By hiring his team, I also got the tile delivered without additional cost.

Bottom line, the tile purchase and install cost me a little over $3 per square foot. I had a quote for a professional epoxy install at $3.65 per square foot, so I think I came away with a superior floor for less money.

The install took two days. There were anywhere from 2 to 5 guys there depending on the stage. If I had tried to DIY the job in my spare time, I would have been working on it for weeks! This way I got it done before we moved in and I can start arranging the rest of the garage, including building workbenches, etc.

Here are a couple of in-process pictures. The job is now complete and I'll post additional pictures later.
 

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Your floor looks fantastic! What a great example of taking the time to shop around for a good deal on the tile and install. It just goes to show that you don't have to an installer to get a good deal for a porcelain floor like this one. Educating yourself on the process goes a long way towards finding a qualified installer and the right tile. Good job!
 
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dmeadow

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Darn it! Forgot the most important thing:--

A big "THANK YOU" to all the folks that provided evaluation, encouragement, and advice by posting on this subject in this forum. Especially bdamico, slickgt1, Jack Olsen, Dakota00, SapesofIndia and duneslider. I know I'm not mentioning a bunch of people that I should, but those names pop to mind.

I would never have considered porcelain tile for a garage floor if it weren't for garagejournal.com. I had a previous bad experience with epoxy that would have gone better if I had the resources on this forum (including the vendors!).

I thought long and hard about a DIY epoxy install this time around, but just didn't have the time to do it the right way with grinding, primering, coating, and topcoating. So a professional install with porcelain became the better option, for not a lot more money.

Thanks, guys!:thumbup:
 
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Looks awesome! :beer:

You made a wise decision to get it installed. I felt that I did a wise decision myself because DIY 18 inch tile is not as easy as 12" tile (and 12" is just easier. Not easy.). For your size of the garage it would have taken me 35 five hour days just to lay the tiles plus more time to grout and what not (hospital breaks excluded). :lol:

That is one big garage. (Garage Envy! lol)
Plus you have a garage door on the back side for one of the doors too. It must be very nice to get stuff to backyard without going around the house.

What else is planned? How do you use such a huge garage?
 

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Looks great. I have installed a lot of Inalco over the years. Your garage is huge, I am very jealous!

I love that little garage door in the back of your garage though! The house I grew up in we put an 8 foot door in the back of the garage and that was the nicest thing in the world to have.
 

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what i like about this install and other tile installs is the way it makes the garage look like part of the home
 

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Looks GREAT. I wish I could find grey tile at that price. I have about 1400 sqft to do and at about $4.00 a sqft for grey tile the project is on hold. I will do the install myself if I ever can find tile at the right price.
Be proud, it looks amazing.
 
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dmeadow

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Thanks, guys.

A few notes about the garage:

Obviously, it is attached. This was a custom home build and we altered some existing plans. By eliminating a bedroom and bumping out the side by 10' I was able to turn a tandem (L shaped) 3 car into a 6 car garage. The wife got her dream kitchen, but that's a whole other thread on another forum.;)

I also had a rolling door on the back of a previous garage and found it very useful. This one is 6' wide and is intended for lawn equipment, though it does come in very handy for moving stuff to the back of the property. Particularly since this is a one story home with a wide garage that left very narrow side yards.

I'm a British car enthusiast with 3 MG's, a Jaguar E-Type, a MINI Cooper for the wife, a SUV as my DD, and a diesel truck to tow a trailer. The trailer often carries a golf cart and one of the MG's (vintage racer). The trailer lives off-site in storage. Obviously, a lot of cars needs a big garage!

It is a working garage, as well. My Maxjax will go into the back center. I had one of the garage doors (not pictured) installed as a high-lift with a Liftmaster so I can fit a storage lift under it and stack a couple of cars. The 10' ceiling is plenty high enough to stack small British sportscars.
 
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Looks GREAT. I wish I could find grey tile at that price. I have about 1400 sqft to do and at about $4.00 a sqft for grey tile the project is on hold. I will do the install myself if I ever can find tile at the right price.
Be proud, it looks amazing.

Thanks! You might keep an eye out on Craigslist. That's how I found my tile. A lot of the ads are for folks with a little leftover tile from a project, so 1400 sq. ft. might require some patience, but you never know!

In one of the threads in this forum some guys came up with some beautiful gray tile on Craigslist in Denver for about what I paid, IIRC.

Try also stopping by the big tile or home improvement stores in your area. I found some tile at Arizona Tile for an excellent price that they didn't advertise anywhere. Unfortunately, I found out it was PEI 3, which wouldn't work in the garage. Another thing I wouldn't have known if I weren't on this forum.
 
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Looks GREAT. I wish I could find grey tile at that price. I have about 1400 sqft to do and at about $4.00 a sqft for grey tile the project is on hold. I will do the install myself if I ever can find tile at the right price.
Be proud, it looks amazing.

I found $9 tile for $2 on craigslist and I know there were definitely cheaper tiles available
 

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Looks fantastic!! Excellent choice in going with porcelain. Man I'm very jealous of your over sized garage.

Post more pics of the finished floor!!
 

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Very nice... I'm thinking of doing tiles in my garage as well this year. But only a small 2 car garage and I'll be using the 69 cents special lol.
 

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I'm definitely jealous of your garage space. Where abouts in Houston are you? I'm around the south Katy area.

For that much space I'd definitely get someone to lay it. I was on the fence on my garage since doing it myself allowed me to move my junk around and do it in stages, but it's half the size of yours and it's still taking me a while!
 
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Came out looking great. That is a lot of tile thats for sure. Glad mine is only 440 sq feet. Keep us posted with some finished shots.
 
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OK, by popular demand, more pics! These are of the finished floor.

The grout is "Natural Grey". I may eventually regret getting a grout so light when it gets stained, but it looks great with the tile now. Any suggestions on sealing it?

Also visible in one shot is the drain in the middle of the floor of the garage. In the others you can see the tile was placed vertically on the pole and on the sides up under the baseboard. I think that gives it a nice finished look.

DefSport, this house is in The Woodlands.
 

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Seal it with a product called an impregnator. There are many sealer out there but only a true impregnator will last for years. (depending on use). We distribute Miricle Sealants products in NY and mostly for use in office building lobby's and bathrooms in commercial settings/hospitals. The best one I have found is by Miricle Sealants and called 511. it come water and solvent based. If you can get the solvent based it is much better however it has a smell that will take a few days to disapate.

The best way to discribe how they work is to think of it as liquid silicone. it fills all the pores of the grout so that dirt will not deposit in the pores. Makes clean up a breeze.

Miricle sealants is based in California and you can check their website for local distribution.

Good Luck!

OK, by popular demand, more pics! These are of the finished floor.

The grout is "Natural Grey". I may eventually regret getting a grout so light when it gets stained, but it looks great with the tile now. Any suggestions on sealing it?

Also visible in one shot is the drain in the middle of the floor of the garage. In the others you can see the tile was placed vertically on the pole and on the sides up under the baseboard. I think that gives it a nice finished look.

DefSport, this house is in The Woodlands.
 

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Seal it with a product called an impregnator. There are many sealer out there but only a true impregnator will last for years. (depending on use). We distribute Miricle Sealants products in NY and mostly for use in office building lobby's and bathrooms in commercial settings/hospitals. The best one I have found is by Miricle Sealants and called 511. It comes water and solvent based. If you can get the solvent based it is much better for a garage, however it has a smell that will take a few days to disapate. I used the water based one on all the bathrooms in my home.

The best way to discribe how they work is to think of it as liquid silicone. it fills all the pores of the grout so that dirt will not deposit in the pores. Makes clean up a breeze.

Miricle sealants is based in California and you can check their website for local distribution.

Good Luck!

OK, by popular demand, more pics! These are of the finished floor.

The grout is "Natural Grey". I may eventually regret getting a grout so light when it gets stained, but it looks great with the tile now. Any suggestions on sealing it?

Also visible in one shot is the drain in the middle of the floor of the garage. In the others you can see the tile was placed vertically on the pole and on the sides up under the baseboard. I think that gives it a nice finished look.

DefSport, this house is in The Woodlands.
 
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Looks great! How did they finish the garage door edge of the tile?

It isn't finished. I had them lay the tile up to about 1.5" from the edge of the slab. I thought about putting some Schluter edging under there, but the guys ended up working so quickly that I didn't get to it in time.

I'm open to suggestions, but I'll either just leave it like it is, or perhaps just smooth down some cement in a small ramp just along the tile edge.
 
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dmeadow

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Thanks, Jsf721. My wife had already bought some of the 511 for her marble countertop. I'll probably use it for the grout in the bathrooms as well as the garage.
 

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It isn't finished. I had them lay the tile up to about 1.5" from the edge of the slab. I thought about putting some Schluter edging under there, but the guys ended up working so quickly that I didn't get to it in time.

I'm open to suggestions, but I'll either just leave it like it is, or perhaps just smooth down some cement in a small ramp just along the tile edge.

I did nothing and mine is higher than yours. I'm just going to paint the edge down the side and call it a day.
 

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That's a great idea! Any suggestions on how to cut and shape it with something other than tile-specific tools?

Regardless of how you cut the tile, make sure you don't drive over it or roll something heavy over it. Chances are that it will crumble and all your effort of cutting tile will be in vain.
Another idea is to find a color matching round vinyl cover or cut one up from a color matching vinyl tile.
 

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I reread your original post. :D

$2.00 square foot for install, including grout and thinset. :shocking:
This is a killer deal.
What thinset and grout did they use?
 

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That's a great idea! Any suggestions on how to cut and shape it with something other than tile-specific tools?

Use an angle grinder with a diamond cutting blade. Mark it, cut and shape it round, I've done this a few times. Glue a piece of aluminum plate about 1/8" thick on the back of the tile to reinforce it if you like, if there's a chance of something heavy going over it.
 
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