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mountainman72

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Hello everyone -

I've loved reading posts on GJ for a while and am excited to say we are getting underway on our 36x28. I want to give a general thanks to the community for so many ideas that have been posted. I hope to incorporate many of them.

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1/4 in scale model mock up

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My 4 year old mason

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Garage will be at end of gravel driveway, right of the house in this view

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Footing and wall poured; view of garage location relative to house

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Close up of pour

I did some back filling with our small tractor, but really need to have the excavator back this week. Then, onto the framing.

Brett
 
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Nice, a single pitch roof! I'm seriously considering that for mine. Are you going to use any sort of high-track door for the flexibility of using a lift with the door open? Looking forward to seeing this one progress.
 
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Yes, I would like to run high tracks on the doors to make space for a two post. I doubt there will be funds for that right away, but will plan for it.

The design in the field is a dirt bike track for me (37) and the neighborhood kids.

Brett
 
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I've been watching CL for a while looking for some flat file cabinets for the garage. I found these and picked them up the other night.

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Here's one as it was when I picked it up.

I did some minor sanding and then painted one with gray hammertone spray paint. Here it is refinished:

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The seller said the cabinets were used in a fleet mechanic shop for New York state. They were mostly full of old engine gaskets when I picked them up.

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The drawers are 31x31, 11 drawers per cabinet so it should offer a lot of storage. I think I'd like to run a bench top between them and make a high desk/workbench.

Brett
 
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Re: drive thru - yes. I have a walkout basement and sometimes drive around the house to get to it. The garage now lies right in that path so I wanted to leave that option open. Also plan to have a large garden behind the garage and the door would allow access to the garden with the tractor for compost.

Brett
 
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Hello all,

I asked the excavator to run a ditch down from left of the garage to connect to an existing culvert. Boy did I get a ditch. It's like a canyon, but I'm sure it will help dry things out. He also uncovered a 2" orangeberg clay pipe. Hard to believe some farmer hand-dug a drainage line that deep. That's in the second photo, barely visible.

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My daughter and I plated the foundation yesterday so we can begin framing. She was a big help and loved it.

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Tightening the last anchor bolt.

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That's awesome that you got the daughter out helping and getting dirty. :thumbup:

BTW, I highly doubt that a farmer hand dug that ditch to put tile in. There's been ditchers around many years including steam powered that have done that type of work.
 

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Looks great so far! Did you custom build your house? It has some very nice architectural details.
 
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billp603 - Yes, we did custom build the house. Thanks for the compliment. It was a lot of work for years, but we like how it turned out. There are many, many center hall colonials around here, so our house is a bit different. It's modeled largely after an old dairy barn about an hour south of here. Inside there are some details/designs that are pretty common on the west coast (steel, stainless, large beams, glass) but are not so common here. It was often interesting trying to explain things to local suppliers during the build...:headscrat

Thanks, Brett
 
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Moved some more sand tonight, and kept running the tamper. I'm sure the wide hole made the footing work easier, but it is a lot of volume to fill back in.

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Brett
 
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I came home ready to change clothes, move sand, and run the tamper, but somebody beat me to it. Apparently the excavator came back and finished up the sitework. I'm excited, and could't resist parking in the garage.

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On the way home I stopped by the lumber yard to finalize the order for the framing package. Looking forward to getting some walls up!

Brett
 

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Back-filling looks well done, how far "upstate NY" are you? Will you be racing the start of winter to get your framing done?
 
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Billp603 - I'm near Saratoga, so upstate enough that we had snow today. I'm sure I will be framing in the snow. Certainly not ideal, but it can be done. I remember running my house air conditioning lines when it was well below zero - miserable and ironic, but it needs to get done right? :)

I didn't hear from the lumber company today so I will need to follow up tomorrow or go with one of the other bids.

Thanks, Brett
 
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Hello all,

After a long, cold northeast winter, everything has melted and we started framing. I built the back wall Sunday afternoon.

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Then on Monday, my father and a friend who works as a framer came over and we built the front walls, side walls, and set the two outside trusses. My father is always a huge help on every project, and it was great to have a professional framer (Mike) giving directions to make things go quickly.

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After they left in the afternoon, I kept going to make some progress on the sheathing. Another friend came over and he and I worked until 7:00 to go as high as possible without the stage scaffolding.

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My youngest was excited by the progress apparently, and hopped in front of this photo.

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Yesterday was 78 degrees. Today we are supposed to get 2 inches of rain and then 1-3 inches of snow as it drops to 28 degrees. Nothing so far, but we decided to skip today based on the weather. I set the stage scaffolding in preparation for tomorrow. At this point we could have worked for 4+ hours...

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Thanks for looking - have a great day everybody.

Brett
 
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Hello folks,

Another productive day. We finished sheathing the walls, built the outriggers and set the subfascia, then sheathed about half of the roof. I'm psyched now that it really looks like a garage.

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It's a little fuzzy, but here's a shot of the building against the house:
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Tomorrow we'll finish the sheathing, set f-channel, fascia, drip edge, and start the roofing. Bang-bang!

Thanks for looking. Have a great day.

Brett
 
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Hello everyone,

This will probably be the end of speedy progress on the garage, as I head back to work on Monday after a week off. I had three buddies surprise me and show up today, so we got a lot done.

Finally finished up the roof and the kids wanted to see it:
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My oldest put in some soffit:
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We also set the windows into frames and sills Mike built on site:
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Time for some siding!

Thanks for looking. Have a great day.

Brett
 
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Started digging out for the sidewalk to connect the garage to the porch. I spent some time with my dad the math teacher talking about extending the line of the porch and the garage to find where they intersect. That will be where we have to put a turn in the sidewalk.

Ordered the siding too.

Have a great day.

Brett
 

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Looks good. When I built my 44' x 32' we kept modifying it as we saw what we could do. I only wish now I put in a bigger door. Are you putting a loft in there for storage?
 
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Looks good. When I built my 44' x 32' we kept modifying it as we saw what we could do. I only wish now I put in a bigger door. Are you putting a loft in there for storage?

I actually want to have a high ceiling for being able to turn long material around, and (hopefully) for a two post lift later on. The whole area under the front porch of the house is set up for cold storage. That 8x48 bunker has been my 'garage' for six years!

Bry@n - Thanks - I'm excited and love having the kids out there. They're really into it.

Thanks for looking.

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Waiting on the siding, so started drilling for electric. My friend borrowed the big Milwaukee drill and returned it with a huge 1" self-feed. Nice!! Great for getting through the quadrupled studs.

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My daughter took this one. The angle's a little funny, but it does give a sense of the interior height and window lighting.

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Have a great day everybody.

Brett
 
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Well, the past few weeks included a few major steps backward. Just when I thought I was set to pour, I drove the truck (f250 diesel) into the garage to see what kind of ruts/settling would occur. In two places, the truck sank so deep I thought it would get stuck.

So, I used the bucket on the old tractor and a shovel to dig out six inches of sand. Then I laid driveway cloth and filled the garage with six inches of #2.

After I got that level, I laid #4 rebar on 2' centers, tied, and up on rebar chairs. 856 ties later, I'm back to forward progress.

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I'm going to run a sidewalk from the pedestrian door back to the front porch of the house. Once I get that laid out and stoned, we can finally pour the whole thing.

Thanks for looking. Have a great day.

Brett
 

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Love it! What did you end up with for roof pitch? Looks like around 4/12. With all that open space above, I'm also curious if a partial mezzanine or second floor is in the plan? Which direction does the tall side face? If I go with a similar design, I'll be facing it south for natural light and whatever passive solar heat gain I can get.
 
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Pluribus - Good call, the roof pitch is 4/12. We may partial mezzanine over the bay closest to the house, but that isn't actually on the print. Tripled 11 7/8 microlams will span with low load when we're ready. The tall/front walls are north facing. South light is great for heat gain, but very intense visually. North light is bright but diffused. We didn't really have the option though; driveway runs N/S.

Thanks, Brett
 

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It's a great space but I must say the house and garage are also a great design. It's so nice to see new construction that isn't cookie cutter. You (or your SWMBO or architect) did an excellent job on the design! I'd love to see a couple shots of the house interior architecture.

I have several house designs floating around in my head in case I ever get the chance to build a custom...

I look forward to seeing your end result!
 

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Awesome setup- I love the big windows. Should have a ton of natural light, as you already noted.

What're you doing with the doors? Roll-up doors to avoid blocking the windows?
 

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It's a great space but I must say the house and garage are also a great design. It's so nice to see new construction that isn't cookie cutter. You (or your SWMBO or architect) did an excellent job on the design! I'd love to see a couple shots of the house interior architecture.

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Pluribus - Good call, the roof pitch is 4/12. We may partial mezzanine over the bay closest to the house, but that isn't actually on the print. Tripled 11 7/8 microlams will span with low load when we're ready. The tall/front walls are north facing. South light is great for heat gain, but very intense visually. North light is bright but diffused. We didn't really have the option though; driveway runs N/S.

Thanks, Brett

Thanks for the response. Hadn't heard about light intensity before, so I'll have to research that. It's always cool to learn about new things. Looking forward to more progress and updates on your garage!
 
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67Carl - Thanks for your kind comments. I grew up in two houses my mom designed and my dad built. Designing and building my own house was always something I knew I'd do, and I made it a goal early on. I kept a binder divided into sections for design ideas for years. I also subscribed to a few trade publications that helped with ideas and know how. There's definitely satisfaction in building your own house, but unless you are really anti-cookie cutter house (it sounds like you are), then it's probably hard to justify the work. I really like blending wood, metal, and glass, so for us it made sense. My wife is out of town with the camera, but I'll take some interior shots and post them when she returns. Thanks for the request.

Showboy - Thanks for subscribing and for your kind comments. Do you really have 21 cars? If so, wow, and it's quite a broad collection.

Fcvapor05 - Thanks for your kind comments. The windows are actually sliding glass doors. My buddy had a few lying around from another job, so we stripped the aluminum off them, built wooden frames and put them in. It was going to be $500 for junk quality windows, but now I have free good quality windows. I'm thinking regular garage doors with the tracks set high, but will look into roll ups.

Xporter - Thanks for your kind comments. I'm psyched to see it going up!

The old jeep had a failed water pump that needed to be replaced this morning. Thanks to my daughter for noticing a faint trail of smoke as the weep hole dripped coolant onto the belt. Not so fun to do that in the driveway, in the rain. Hopefully that is the last driveway repair!

The siding got dropped off today. It took a while to get it in, but at least it is pre-painted. Couldn't believe the cost on the PVC trim - hopefully I can return a few pieces. The lumber yard dropped off some more rebar and 2x6s so I can form up the stairs and sidewalk. I moved a little stone today before lunch for the sidewalk, but have to run and take care of a few things.

Have a great day everybody, Brett
 
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Hello all,

I had a little time before dark so I started putting up some siding. The sheets are tough putting up solo because they're so heavy, but you do cover a lot of wall quickly.

I took a few photos, but they are phone-photos so the quality is poor.

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Now it's dark and pouring rain, so now more for tonight.

Have a good weekend, Brett
 
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Hello everybody,

We had a beautiful day here, with bluebird skies and pleasant temps. Perfect weather to get some work done outside. Sorry for the crappy phone photos - my camera is still out of town.

I finished two courses of cement panel siding on each side of the garage.

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Then I set forms for the sidewalk to run from the pedestrian door over to the porch. Next I raked out the crusher run, drilled three holes into the porch foundation, and laid out the rebar on 2' centers.

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After a burger and a beer at my neighbor's house, I came back and formed up the stairs. This was the first time I made forms for concrete. It needs a little more rebar inside the form, but I didn't want to make any more noise late in the night.

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Hope you all had a great weekend, Brett
 

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Looks great! That is a wide path. I would recommend you add bracing to your step forms; once they get filled up they will want to bow out, especially with the width you have there.

I like those concrete board panels.. I didn't even know they made them like that. What are you doing to seal the seams between panels?
 
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Beemer533 - Good call. Thanks and see below:

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All of the seams between the panels will be caulked and covered with PVC trim, which will be caulked. I staggered the seams so it will layout like a brick pattern, with 4' square bricks.

Bshy01 - Re: cost...Other than the concrete pours, I will do everything myself and will save on labor. Progress is slow so I won't know a total cost until I'm done. Probably 20k. The size could certainly be done a lot cheaper with a pole barn, but we didn't want that look right next to the house. If this was a secondary shop off in the field/woods, I definitely would have done a pole barn.

Enjoy the short work week everybody - tomorrow's Tuesday already!

Brett
 
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Hello everybody -

Be thankful for good friends. My buddy Jason logged a bunch of hours this weekend helping me out, and we made good progress on the siding.

On Saturday we finished the panels on the east side, and were working across the front:

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Then by the end of the day Sunday we finished the front, and put on the solid PVC corners and top trim:

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Here are shots of the back and east side:

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We actually ran out of panels and I need about 3 more to finish. But I really didn't want any extra, so that's fine and I can work on the brick pattern trim while I wait for them to arrive.

Concrete boys were supposed to measure this morning, but no show. Hopefully that happens this week.

Crack a beer and smile - it's a beautiful day!!

Thanks for looking, Brett
 
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