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PopcornSutton

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Will be having a new roof installed soon, and I want to remove the bolted down antenna mast I have now. Many houses around here have a pipe up the side of the house that extends above roof line. I'm not wild about the idea but I don't want roof penetrations on a new roof. My first thought is getting a couple 10' pieces of 1-1/2 rigid conduit, screw them together and that would get me above the roof. Those would cost about 100 bucks. I would rather have the rigid pipe as apposed to a telescoping mast. I know black pipe comes in 20-21 foot but that would be hard to transport. Alternatives or other ideas?
 
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NakeDiesel

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This is probably not the solution you want, but this is what I did. I wanted everything off the house as I'm trying to reside it in steel.

It's a 20' free standing tower. concrete pit is 4' x 4' x 4' or there abouts with about 4 yards of concrete in it and a lot of rebar.

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PopcornSutton

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I've seen the gable end mounts, at least they have two brackets. They sure look flimsy, one was 18 gauge. I have two antennas on one mast, pointing different directions.

I was going to use a 2x2 angle lag bolted to the gable end truss, not just the fascia, to mount the pipe/mast to, with the bottom driven into the ground.
 
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This is probably not the solution you want, but this is what I did. I wanted everything off the house as I'm trying to reside it in steel.

It's a 20' free standing tower. concrete pit is 4' x 4' x 4' or there abouts with about 4 yards of concrete in it and a lot of rebar.

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This is what my SIL did for their antenna except he went a little higher, maybe 30'. I, on the other hand, simply bolted a bracket to the gable end of the house and mounted a 6' length of antenna 'pole' for ours.
 
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PopcornSutton

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This is what my SIL did for their antenna except he went a little higher, maybe 30'. I, on the other hand, simply bolted a bracket to the gable end of the house and mounted a 6' length of antenna 'pole' for ours.
Well I might give one a try. Amazon sells a ChannelMaster that is made of 12 gauge. It opens to 5 feet, so I'll have to see how much separation that would give me between the top and bottom support. Too close together will affect some strength.
 

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We've come a long way since you just lathered some tar on the top and crossed your fingers that the bolts wouldn't leak. If you put something like ice guard under where the tripod would fasten to the roof it will seal around the fasteners right at the deck level and significantly lower the chances of leaks at those 3 penetrations.
 

wssix99

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Check out pictures of houses in the Southwest with tile roofs.

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I also wanted a roof with zero penetrations and got a lot of inspiration (and found the model I needed) for my satellite dish mount.
 

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Do you have to be above the roof? I ended up putting my antenna in my attic as high as I could get it and have not had any troubles. This is the antenna I went with: https://a.co/d/dYDXqn1 might be worth a try, if it doesn't work you can move it outside.
 
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BurtEggley

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I used to sell antennas years ago, and have installed my share. It all depends on where you are, transmitter locations, distance from you, and what channels you want to watch. You need to use the two links theoldwizard just gave you, and then determine the answer to the questions:

1. What channels do I want to watch
2. How far away are those transmitters
3. What locations are they at. Are they all on the same mountain top or building 20 miles away, or are they in 5 or 6 locations 100 miles away.
4. How much are you willing to spend.

In our case we decided on local stations within 40 miles, all in the same general location as to the compass, and whatever was best to do that. We went with a Channel Master antenna bought right from Channel Master, one of their preamps, a chimney mount, and the antenna pointed stationary at the compass point where most of our local stations are at. The reception is outstanding, we have other things we stream via the Internet, and the things we cannot get there we get off air. The antenna is light so an 8' pole on the mount was adequate. My neighbor has a two story, and he is using a facia mount with an even smaller antenna. We chose larger because we have to see thru/around some trees and two stories like his. I did not want a 30' mast on the roof and rotator like we used to do in the 1960's and 1970's. Be sure to adequately ground the mast and install proper lightning protection. Your system can get damaged from nearby strikes or even a charged cloud passing over you if you do not. I ran 6 ga wire as a ground into a grounding rod on the side of the house, and had my electrician tie that ground into the house ground just before the panel per codes. We also have an FM antenna that is omni-directional. It has its own ground and pre-amp. The whole system uses RG6 cable of a high quality. You will need special crimping tools to put ends on the RG6. The RG6 coax will reduce the multipath.

Or if the stations are closer, just use rabbit ears.
 

Leaflessshadetree

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It really depends on the type/weight of the antenna.

These are good antennas for the price Channel Master ULTRAtenna Outdoor TV Antenna 40/60/80 mile Amazon $79/$114/$194

They claim they are 180° Multi-Directional but I don't believe them, especially if you are far from the tower and the towers are in different direction. A rotor MAY be required.
I have 2 of the largest ones mounted on chain link top rail masts on my chimney. I reliably get a little over 90 deg reception, one broadcaster is about 30 miles away and I have that antenna pointed more towards broadcasters 45 miles away. The other is pointed directly at broadcasters 60 to 70 miles away.
 

58Yeoman

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I had a 40' free standing tower for years until the preamp died, then decided to take the tower down and put the antenna in my attic. We're about 30 to 40 miles from the stations and pull in the stations just as well without the tower. We did lose the fox station before we removed the tower; don't know why, but there wasn't much on it that we watched any way, only Big Bang Theory. The pic is of the day I was taking the tower down.tower1.jpg
 
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PopcornSutton

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I measured my gable end, with the gable end mounts available, with the top bracket mounted as high as it could, then with the 60" spread of the bottom bracket, there would hardly be 12" of separation between them. With a 4 foot mast and the antennas places high, that wouldn't hold much at all. It's gets pretty windy here, like the past two days!
 

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I use tvfool.com. It gives a better overview of my location and stations. I have used their magnetic bearing angles with a compass and found them spot on.
TV Fool is quite stale....

I like RabbitEars as it seems up to date and more current. I like that you can specify a distance (I pick max), can set your antenna height, obviously your address, and then get results which you can sort by angle so you know where best to aim your antenna for the signal cluster.
 

Higgy1300

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We have a channel master, 2 piece pole and a bracket attaches to the fascia. When a hurricane comes i take the top section off And zip tie it to the lower section
 
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