Antique tools

[dink]

I am thinking about starting up a small collection....a few pieces here and there....mainly hand tools and such....nothing farm or power tool....mainly the screwdrivers files and chisels and wrenches

ANy good online sources you guys recommend????

 

[rjspitz]

I was going to ask the same question. I have a few things, including an old wooden level, hand drill, hand plane, various pliers and wrenches, dial calipers, and a few other things. Most of the things belonged to my late grandfather, so they are probably not antique, just out-dated, early to mid 1900s.

 

[dink]

Yea that is the sort of thing I am looking at....old stuff...not really pre-1900's...it could be yea

 

[kartracer55]

Check around on Ebay... old brands to look for are throsen, plumb(proto before the name change in 1950), "FM", and herbrand. Also, You can tell the age of as snap on socket by the little number on them, Ill starta thread explaining this a bit more.

Jim

 

[dink]

Anywere else beside Ebay????

 

[kartracer55]

Pawn shops and garage sales... there isnt really a market for old tools id guess.

Jim

 

[dink]

There has to be hmmmm your no help Jim go back to your mothers womb hahahaa kidding

 

[kartracer55]

Its gross enough I popped out of there once... I couldnt handle it a second time lol

Jim

 

[eschoendorff]

Well, these guys don't sell antique tools per se, but they do have some neat stuff and seem to be rather knowledgable. Give them a call... they might be able to give you some leads.

http://harryepstein.com/

 

[kartracer55]

Well IDk if you would consider bonney antique, but its good stuff and harry epstein sells it.

Jim

 

[dink]

Well you gave me good ideas....I guess I will have to do all the work on my own sheesh

 

[kartracer55]

http://cgi.ebay.com/THORSEN-1-4-3-8...ryZ20773QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thats cool... you cxan also find Newbritain era husky tools (from the 60's/70s) on there as well.

Jim

 

[dink]

http://cgi.ebay.com/THORSEN-1-4-3-8...ryZ20773QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thats cool... you cxan also find Newbritain era husky tools (from the 60's/70s) on there as well.

Jim

Yea that is pretty cool....but I dunno...just doesnt have that uniqueness

 

[kartracer55]

http://cgi.ebay.com/MCKAIG-HATCH-IN...ryZ20774QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mckaig Hatch... a brand long gone. I have a similar wrench, but in a smaller size. there is a decent number of these on there, you can probably build a whole set

 

[kartracer55]

You can also look up "remy Wagner" for older tools,
But a brand I REALLY like for quality is Indestro, specifically Indestro select. They built some INSANE tools.

Jim

 

[dink]

Yes that defently has a uniqueness to it.....what are you typing to sort things???

 

[kartracer55]

The old brands that I know of... look for

Mckaig Hatch
Thorsen
Remy Wagner
Eisemann


there are also other brands from the 70s and 80s that arnt around anymore...

wizard
Indestro
Thorsen
Bonney
Dayton
Utica
Williams (not JH williams, just williams, prior to the JH)

Jim

 

[Rickster]

I see them at some garage sales and mostly estate sales all the time. I have several of the big-*** screwdrivers that are all metal with the wood two halfs handle rivited together. They make great pry-bars.

 

[Jared]

Would the williams stuff be the superwrenchs?

 

[l_bilyk]

I have some unidentified wrenches, and old brass oiler, and a metal cased skill drill

 

[kartracer55]

Yeah williams useds to have the "superwrench" "superrathcet" and a few other super items...

JH williams still uses the name I believe.

Jim

 

[kartracer55]

As for the metal cased skil drill... thats when Skil was its own company. Now, They are made by bosch, as a "consumer" line

Jim

 

[eschoendorff]

Well IDk if you would consider bonney antique, but its good stuff and harry epstein sells it.

Jim

No... I'm not saying that Bonney is necessarily antique. I'm just saying that if you call the guys at H E... they might have some leads on where to finds the older stuff...

 

[rgjlk]

Well I have all of the brands that have been mentioned in one fashion or another,
With the exception of McKaig Hatch. I can't ever remember even seeing any thing with that name on it. I believe a friend of mine had some "MH" tools but not sure that is the same. Anyone in the know please get back with the rest of us.
Isn't knowledge great, especially what you have forgotten.

 

[kartracer55]

As I recall reading, Mckaig hatch tools came in certain GM service kits. I dont use mine, Its just part of my "cool old tool" collection

Jim

 

[kartracer55]

Also Look for Plomb tools. They were pretty good tools.

As I think I might have mentioned before, Plomb tools changed thier name to Proto in 1950 or 51, due to a lawsuit over the name.

They are pretty high quality tools, not as nice as a current snap on, but good for a tool made "back in the day"

Jim

 

[Tim240Z]

I've got an old wood level sitting on the curb right now. The previous owners left it in the garage and I am on a clean-up mission. Yours if you like....just pay shipping....let me know before Tuesday though!
Tim

 

[l_bilyk]

As for the metal cased skil drill... thats when Skil was its own company. Now, They are made by bosch, as a "consumer" line

Jim

incidentally, now they are complete junk

 

[kartracer55]

Yup.... Now bosch is a whole 'nother story. Thats some good stuff. But the price is also WAY more.

Jim

 

[george4]

Well I have all of the brands that have been mentioned in one fashion or another,
With the exception of McKaig Hatch. I can't ever remember even seeing any thing with that name on it. I believe a friend of mine had some "MH" tools but not sure that is the same. Anyone in the know please get back with the rest of us.
Isn't knowledge great, especially what you have forgotten.

I have their combination wrench set that is 40 years old, much like raised panel craftsman in appearance. I do not know of any relationship to GM.

 

[jerryW]

Look up alloy artifacts. A site dedicated to the history of old tools.

I have around here pieces of Bonney, Blackhawk, Barcalo, old Craftsman, Herbrand. Husky, S-K, Vlchek, Plomb, Proto, P&C, Cahllenger, Mac, New Britain, Williams, Indestro, Armstrong, Blue-point. Owatonna, Wright, Walden-Worchester, Hinsdale, Billings, None Better and of course Snap-on.

Indestro Had about 4 or 5 different lines. Duro Chrome, Indestro suoer, Indestro Select, Indestro and a few others.

I probably have more but that's what I can find right now.


jerry

 

[ImportTuner]

Look up alloy artifacts. A site dedicated to the history of old tools.

I have around here pieces of Bonney, Blackhawk, Barcalo, old Craftsman, Herbrand. Husky, S-K, Vlchek, Plomb, Proto, P&C, Cahllenger, Mac, New Britain, Williams, Indestro, Armstrong, Blue-point. Owatonna, Wright, Walden-Worchester, Hinsdale, Billings, None Better and of course Snap-on.

Indestro Had about 4 or 5 different lines. Duro Chrome, Indestro suoer, Indestro Select, Indestro and a few others.

I probably have more but that's what I can find right now.


jerry

I'm still using my Indestro ratchets .. I bought them in the early 70's and they still work as well as they did when I bought them .. Picture is not very sharp ...

 

[MAD]

I own and still use two Duro-Indestro metric wrench sets. One set is double open ends up to 32mm. The other set is a full polish short pattern double box set 6mm- 22mm. I also have a hand crank operated wall-mount drill press

Here is a great link for old tool info.

http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/index.html

 

[MAD]

Look up alloy artifacts. A site dedicated to the history of old tools.

The link I gave is the site mentioned by jerrW. Did not notice on first read.

http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/index.html

 

[wilbilt]

I have a lot of bits and pieces of older stuff. It will outlast me, no doubt.

One comment on Snap-On vs. Blue Point. It is often said here that "Blue Point is not the same as Snap-On". This undoubtedly true these days, with Blue Point being sold as a second line alongside Snap-On.

Originally, the Snap-On brand was used on sockets, ratchets, and screwdrivers, and the Blue Point brand was used on wrenches and pliers. i.e., Blue Point was Snap-On's wrench brand.

For example, I have a 1 1/4" long pattern Blue Point combination wrench in an industrial finish. It is forged from the same pattern as newer Snap-On long combos, and even has the same part number it would if it was branded "Snap-On". It fits right in with my newer Snap-On wrenches (except for the finish).

I also have some Blue-Point "Boxocket" wrenches sporting "BOEX-" part numbers that I believe are from the early 1930's. They look exactly like their later Snap-On counterparts, except are not fully polished and chromed.

Does anyone have any really old catalogs that might indicate when the wrench line became Snap-On instead of Blue Point?

 

[Vitalik]

I have wrenches that say "Blue-Points" i got them from my gramps. Whats up with that?

 

[krusty the clown]

I have wrenches that say "Blue-Points" i got them from my gramps. Whats up with that?

blue points was a name snap on used for wrenches back in the early day's. snap on was only used for sockes and wrenches.

a little reading here......

http://alloy-artifacts.com/so-early-sockets.html
http://alloy-artifacts.com/snapon-bluepoint-tools.html
http://collectingsnapon.com/Site/Home-1.html

 

[Vitalik]

I guess the are the first SnapOn/blue point wrenches from the 1920s. Do you think they are worth anything?

 

[snapmom]

I collect blue points. There are not to many collectors who buy them, so they usually sell at a very low price. I have maybe 100 pcs of blue points, would like to see a pic of yours. so post them.

 

[Vitalik]

I'll take some pics with the trusty iPhone when I get home...